This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2018

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John is otm re: Soller's Point & Blindspotting

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)

Also, its maybe a little surprising that Waters didn't really go for Boots Riley's grotesque, hysterical Sorry to Bother You but I'm guessing that received too much acclaim for his liking.

― Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Sunday, December 2, 2018 7:34 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh please, he's a populist. the movie just wasn't that good

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 02:33 (seven years ago)

As the recently-bumped poll thread on Waters' picks from earlier years reminded me (after I posted here), this is true. This year's list just looked particularly obscure in a way that I suspected was willful.

Timothée Charalambides (cryptosicko), Monday, 3 December 2018 02:43 (seven years ago)

Sollers Point is terrific.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 02:45 (seven years ago)

check out his previous film I Used to Be Darker if you haven't. and Putty Hill (starring Sky Ferreira 👀)

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 02:57 (seven years ago)

xxp this year was its own peculiar brand of cinematic suckitude

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 03:38 (seven years ago)

I don't particularly believe in "weak years." More people are souring on trad linear narratives, bcz as I've noticed for awhile, It's All Been Done.

KJB will be happy that someone else liked the Nico movie. Waters has an extra spot open now since there won't be any more Woody Allen films.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 12:26 (seven years ago)

More people critics are souring on trad linear narratives, bcz Bohemian Rhapsody.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 13:16 (seven years ago)

Since we have to wait until next Sunday for LAFCA, here's some highlights from Detroit's critics awards:

PICTURE: Eighth Grade
DIRECTOR: Adam McCay
ACTOR: Ethan Hawke
ACTRESS: Toni Collette
SUP ACTOR: Josh Hamilton (Eighth Grade)
SUP ACTRESS: Regina King
DOC: Three Identical Strangers
SCREENPLAY: Green Book; Vice (tie)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:28 (seven years ago)

Eighth Grade as best film is friggin' hysteria

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:31 (seven years ago)

More people are souring on the sound era, bcz Bohemian Rhapsody.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:32 (seven years ago)

More notably, David Ehrl1ch's annual top 25 countdown montage: https://vimeo.com/304064569

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)

Fucking VICE.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:33 (seven years ago)

Eighth Grade is, as someone said, Todd Solondz w/out the disturbing misanthropy (that saves his films... some of them, anyway)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)

This is the first moment to give me hope that Ethan Hawke is sweeping it all.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:34 (seven years ago)

I think almost everyone said Eighth Grade is Todd Solondz without the misanthropy.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:35 (seven years ago)

well no wonder it stuck with me then

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 15:36 (seven years ago)

Eighth Grade is, as someone said, Todd Solondz w/out the disturbing misanthropy (that saves his films... some of them, anyway)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Mo

hence my liking it (not more than that)

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:35 (seven years ago)

10 awards for The Favourite

https://www.bifa.film/news/winners-2018/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)

I'd rather hate a movie than like it.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)

has anyone here actually seen VICE yet?

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:52 (seven years ago)

I told the PR person who organized the screening two weeks ago that I had the mumps

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 16:55 (seven years ago)

should have told them someone shot you in the face imho

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)

Atlanta, dear god:

1. THE FAVOURITE
2. A STAR IS BORN
3. ROMA
4. A QUIET PLACE
5. FIRST REFORMED
6. EIGHTH GRADE
7. BLACKkKLANSMAN
8. Tie: FIRST MAN
WON’T YOU BE MY NEIGHBOR?
10. BLACK PANTHER

Atlanta Film Critics Circle Awards:

Best Lead Actor
Ethan Hawke in FIRST REFORMED

Best Lead Actress
Olivia Colman in THE FAVOURITE

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Elliott in A STAR IS BORN

Best Supporting Actress
Emma Stone in THE FAVOURITE

Best Ensemble Cast
THE FAVOURITE

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:55 (seven years ago)

I can't abide A Quiet Place getting the "it's this year's Get Out" treatment.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:57 (seven years ago)

Having The Other Side of the Wind, Eight Hours Don't Make a Day, and Ganja and Hess eligible for 2018 lists is some brutal blood-on-the-walls ringer shit, Globetrotters vs. Washington Generals.

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) November 30, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 17:59 (seven years ago)

I'd rather hate a movie than like it.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, December 3, 2018 11:37 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I generally just assume this is true for virtually everyone in this thread.

evol j, Monday, 3 December 2018 18:33 (seven years ago)

Hadn't thought of Sam Elliott for Best Supporting Actor, but it makes sense if this carries over to the Oscars.

... (Eazy), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:37 (seven years ago)

The part was made for awards. Would've preferred him getting recognition for his co-star role in that Blythe Danner film from 2016.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:38 (seven years ago)

could also be make-up for his overlooked lead in The Hero last year

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 18:40 (seven years ago)

these are Sam's lifetime achievement honors

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)

yeah

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 18:42 (seven years ago)

is Flea getting any attention for his role in Boy Erased? shit movie but he was good

flappy bird, Monday, 3 December 2018 18:43 (seven years ago)

Also, its maybe a little surprising that Waters didn't really go for Boots Riley's grotesque, hysterical Sorry to Bother You but I'm guessing that received too much acclaim for his liking.

oh please, he's a populist. the movie just wasn't that good

it's v v Watersy. though what he made 38 years ago isn't necessarily what he wants to see now

putting American Animals on at all, let alone so high, makes one suspect he only saw 11 films this year

sans lep (sic), Monday, 3 December 2018 19:17 (seven years ago)

Adrian Martin's top 5 cinephile "things" for 2018:

https://filmalert101.blogspot.com/2018/12/defending-cinephilia-2019-adrian-martin.html

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 20:46 (seven years ago)

Cahiers du cinema's top 10:

01. “The Wild Boys” (Bertrand Mandico)
02. “Coincoin and the Extra-Humans” (Bruno Dumont)
03. “Phantom Thread” (Paul Thomas Anderson)
04. “Burning” (Lee Chang-dong)
05. “Paul Sanchez est revenu.” (Patricia Mazuy)
06. “The Post” (Steven Spielberg)
07. “On the Beach at Night Alone” (Hong Sang-soo)
08. “The House That Jack Built” (Lars von Trier)
09. “Leto” (Kirill Serebrennikov)
10. “Treasure Island” (Guillaume Brac)

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:09 (seven years ago)

“The Wild Boys” is real annoying pansexual crap.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:38 (seven years ago)

what annoyed you other than the Duran allusion?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)

ugh Dumont

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 3 December 2018 21:40 (seven years ago)

The Post?? lmfao

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 04:59 (seven years ago)

did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:00 (seven years ago)

thought Dumont's Life of Jesus, Flanders, Slack Bay were all really good

Dan S, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:10 (seven years ago)

and especially Humanité

Dan S, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 07:15 (seven years ago)

Yes, looking forward to Coincoin and the Joan of Arc musical, if either of them ever get any kind of UK release.

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 09:27 (seven years ago)

Burning is overrated

Dumont est merde

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:43 (seven years ago)

why are you laughing at the Greatest Filmmaker, flappy?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:45 (seven years ago)

did anybody see Burning? I missed its run here - how stupid should I feel?

― flappy bird,

It's good, despite a muddle of an ending.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:46 (seven years ago)

agreed. but it wouldn't make my top 10 I don't think

resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 12:52 (seven years ago)

The Indiana Film Journalists Association (IFJA) have announced their nominations representing the best in film for 2018. The winners will be announced tomorrow.

Click below to see the nominations.
BEST PICTURE
Annihilation
Avengers: Infinity War
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Ben Is Back
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Chappaquiddick
Crazy Rich Asians
Eighth Grade
The Favourite
First Man
First Reformed
Green Book
The Hate U Give
Hearts Beat Loud
Lean on Pete
Leave No Trace
The Long Dumb Road
Love, Simon
Madeline’s Madeline
Paddington 2
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
The Rider
Roma
Stan & Ollie
A Star Is Born
Suspiria
Tully
The Wife
You Were Never Really Here

BEST ANIMATED FILM
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
1945
Border
Capernaum
Cold War
The Guilty
Roma
A Sublime Life

BEST DOCUMENTARY
Andre the Giant
Dead Man's Line: The True Story of Tony Kiritsis
Free Solo
Itzhak
Minding the Gap
On Her Shoulders
RBG
Satan and Adam
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Andrew Bujalski, "Support the Girls"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Diablo Cody, “Tully”
Joel & Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara, "The Favourite"
Hannah Fidell & Carson D. Mell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Brett Haley and Marc Basch, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Tamara Jenkins, “Private Life”
Sam Levinson, "Assassination Nation"
Andrew Logan and Taylor Allen, “Chappaquiddick”
Andrew McCarten, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Nick Vallelonga, Brian Hayes Currie and Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Bryan Woods & Scott Beck and John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Ali Abbasi, John Ajvide Lindqvist, and Isabella Ekloff, “Border”
Jane Anderson, “The Wife”
Jacques Audiard and Thomas Bidegain, “The Sisters Brothers”
Elizabeth Berger and Isaac Aptaker, “Love, Simon”
Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole, “Black Panther”
Debra Granik and Anne Rosellini, “Leave No Trace”
Alex Garland and Jeff VanderMeer, “Annihilation”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Armando Iannucci, David Schneider, Ian Martin and Peter Fellows, “The Death of Stalin”
David Kajganich, “Suspiria”
Rebecca Lenkiewicz and Sebastián Lelio, “Disobedience”
Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper and Will Fetters, “A Star Is Born”
Josh Singer, “First Man”
Audrey Wells, “The Hate U Give”

BEST DIRECTOR
Greg Berlanti, “Love, Simon"
Bo Burnham, “Eighth Grade”
Damien Chazelle, “First Man”
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Ryan Coogler, “Black Panther”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Alfonso Cuarón, “Roma”
John Curran, “Chappaquiddick”
Josephine Decker, "Madeline’s Madeline"
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge”
Peter Farrelly, “Green Book”
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road”
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds”
Alex Garland, “Annihilation”
Debra Granik, “Leave No Trace”
Luca Guadagnino, “Suspiria”
Andrew Haigh, “Lean on Pete”
Brett Haley, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Peter Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
John Krasinski, “A Quiet Place”
Nadine Labaki, “Capernaum”
Spike Lee, “BlacKkKlansman”
Christopher McQuarrie, "Mission: Impossible - Fallout"
Pawel Pawlikowski, "Cold War"
Lynne Ramsay, “You Were Never Really Here”
Björn Runge, “The Wife”
Paul Schrader, “First Reformed”
Bryan Singer, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
George Tillman Jr., “The Hate U Give”
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider”

BEST ACTRESS
Yalitza Aparicio, “Roma”
Jessica Buckley, “Beast”
Glenn Close, “The Wife”
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade”
Lady Gaga, “A Star Is Born”
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace”
Regina Hall, “Support the Girls”
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline”
Dakota Johnson, "Suspiria"
Eva Melander, "Border"
Carey Mulligan, "Wildlife"
Michelle Pfeiffer, “Where is Kyra?”
Natalie Portman, “Annihilation”
Julia Roberts, "Ben Is Back"
Amandla Stenberg, “The Hate U Give”
Emma Stone, "The Favourite"
Charlize Theron, “Tully”
Rachel Weisz, “Disobedience”
Rachel Weisz, "The Favourite"
Mary Elizabeth Winstead, “All About Nina”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Emily Blunt, “A Quiet Place”
Kayli Carter, “Private Life”
Kiersey Clemons, “Hearts Beat Loud”
Olivia Colman, "The Favourite"
Mackenzie Davis, “Tully”
Cynthia Erivo, “Bad Times at the El Royale”
Claire Foy, “First Man”
Danai Gurira, “Black Panther”
Rachel McAdams, “Disobedience”
Millicent Simmonds, “A Quiet Place”
Tilda Swinton, “Suspiria”

BEST ACTOR
Mahershala Ali, “Green Book”
Christian Bale, "Vice"
Jakob Cedergren, “The Guilty”
John Cho, "Searching"
Jason Clarke, “Chappaquiddick”
Steve Coogan, “Stan & Ollie”
Bradley Cooper, “A Star Is Born”
Ben Foster, “Leave No Trace”
Ryan Gosling, “First Man”
Ethan Hawke, “First Reformed”
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider”
Rami Malek, “Bohemian Rhapsody”
Jason Mantzoukas, “The Long Dumb Road”
Viggo Mortensen, “Green Book”
Joaquin Phoenix, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Joaquin Phoenix, “You Were Never Really Here”
Charlie Plummer, “Lean on Pete”
Jonathan Pryce, “The Wife”
John C. Reilly, “The Sisters Brothers”
John C. Reilly, “Stan & Ollie”
Tony Revolori, “The Long Dumb Road”

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Simon Russell Beale, “The Death of Stalin”
Steve Carell, "Vice"
Timothee Chalamet, “Beautiful Boy”
Adam Driver, "BlacKkKlansman"
Sam Elliott, “A Star Is Born”
Hugh Grant, “Paddington 2”
Richard E. Grant, “Can You Ever Forgive Me?”
Josh Hamilton, “Eighth Grade”
Lucas Hedges, "Ben Is Back"
Ed Helms, “Chappaquiddick”
Jonah Hill, “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far on Foot”
Russell Hornsby, “The Hate U Give”
Nicholas Hoult, "The Favourite"
Michael B. Jordan, “Black Panther”
Matthew McConaughey, “White Boy Rick”
Alessandro Nivola, “Disobedience”
Jesse Plemons, “Game Night”
Jonathan Pryce, "The Wife"
Christian Slater, “The Wife”

BEST VOCAL/MOTION CAPTURE PERFORMANCE
Josh Brolin, “Avengers: Infinity War”
Bryan Cranston, “Isle of Dogs”
Tom Hiddleston, “Early Man”
Ben Whishaw, “Paddington 2”

BEST ENSEMBLE ACTING
Bad Times at the El Royale
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
First Man
Hearts Beat Loud
Leave No Trace
Love, Simon
A Quiet Place
Thoroughbreds
The Wife

BEST MUSICAL SCORE
Lorne Balfe, “Mission: Impossible - Fallout”
Geoff Barrow & Ben Salisbury, “Annihilation”
Marco Beltrami, “A Quiet Place”
Nicholas Britell, "If Beale Street Could Talk"
Carter Burwell, “The Ballad of Buster Scruggs”
Erik Friedlander, “Thoroughbreds”
Ludwig Göransson, “Black Panther”
Jonny Greenwood, “You Were Never Really Here”
Nathan Halpern, “The Rider”
Ian Hultquist, “Assassination Nation”
Justin Hurwitz, “First Man”
Jóhann Jóhannsson, “Mandy”
Dario Marianelli, "Paddington 2"
Philip Miller, “Where is Kyra?”
Jocelyn Pook, “The Wife”
Max Richter, “White Boy Rick”
Rob, “Revenge”
David Shire, “Love After Love”
Alan Silvestri, “Ready Player One”
Thom Yorke, “Suspiria”

BREAKOUT OF THE YEAR
Zain Al Rafeea, “Capernaum” (actor)
Jessica Buckley, “Beast” (actress)
Coralie Fargeat, “Revenge” (writer / director)
Hannah Fidell, “The Long Dumb Road” (director / co-writer)
Cory Finley, “Thoroughbreds” (writer / director)
Elsie Fisher, “Eighth Grade” (actress)
Brady Jandreau, “The Rider” (actor)
Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie, “Leave No Trace” (actress)
Helena Howard, “Madeline’s Madeline” (actress)
Gustav Möller, “The Guilty” (director / co-writer)
Nick Robinson, “Love, Simon” (actor)
Evan Rosado, “We the Animals” (actor)
John David Washington, “BlacKkKlansman” (actor)
Chloe Zhao, “The Rider” (writer / director)

ORIGINAL VISION
Isle of Dogs
A Quiet Place
Eighth Grade
The Long Dumb Road
Madeline’s Madeline
The Rider
​Sorry to Bother You

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:10 (seven years ago)

Way to cut through the clutter there, Indiana crix.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 15:11 (seven years ago)


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