Can't think of anything from the last couple of years, but Howard Cruse's Stuck Rubber Baby would fit what the editor is looking for, as it is a mixture of a coming-out story of a gay man and a history of the civil rights movement in the American South. It's from the 90s though, so not really recent.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, Pyongyang by Guy Delisle, Exit Wounds by Rutu Modan.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Thank you for the recommendations, and yeah, I'll cross-post this over at ILC.
― ya'll are the ones who don't know things (Z S), Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh, and Alan's War by Emmanuel Guibert.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I guess Jason Lutes' Berlin is pretty recent, as the second book came out only last year. It's quite good, but it isn't finished yet.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
Just got the second Hate anthology today, not exactly serious graphic novel stuff, but fun anyway.
― Achtung Blobby (Neil S), Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
I second the recommendation on Exit Wounds, and it definitely is about war and peace (as well as family and romance).
― Tuomas, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Agreed on exit wounds. I haven't read those Sacco books but I read one or two earlier ones, he's definitely good.
― Nhex, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link
I've never read Joe Sacco, but he's probably your man.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Fun Home by Alison Bechdel is pretty recent too, and I guess the gay/lesbian content makes it kinda political, though it's mostly a family history. More relevant from a LGBT and social rights point of view is her long-running strip Dykes to Watch Out For, which I think is her true masterpiece. I'd recommend that to anyone, besides lesbian history and political commentary it also has plenty of humour and drama and soap opera, so it's quite fun to read. (Fun Home is good too, but it's kinda text-heavy and narratively complex, so it takes some effort to get inside it.)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
Sacco's work is excellent. If war reportage is not your thing his But I Like It is a lighter book about touring with a rock band.
― fit and working again, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I've tried to read Sacco's "journal" comics, but the overtly long text panels always wear me down. They feel more like illustrated reportages than proper comics with good storytelling.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 4 June 2009 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Any graphic novels that you'd recommend for an 11 year old and a 14 year old?
The latter has "V is for Vendetta". The former actually draws in a way that reminds me of Mr Scruff (amazed he hasn't written a book) or Kid Koala (probably too bleak ... also too rare/expensive).
Ta.
― djh, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
Trying to keep to limited runs/single edition trades.
Both younguns:Noelle Stevenson - NimonaIf they're OK with having a girl protag (lord knows I wouldn't have been at that age), really funny, lovely art, nice story about friendship.
Jeff Smith - BoneGreat adventure story, tails off towards the end but the beginning is magical. And yes, there are single-volume editions available lol.
14YO:BKV - RunawaysBright and TUNS of FUNS, there are like 4 volumes (collected into 2 omnibuses)? BUT SO GOOD.
Frank Miller - Batman: Year OneGrim / gritty done right. Exceptionally tight writing.
Alan Moore - Top 10Also bright and fun, though it does touch on L&O:SVU like subjects, but hell, if they're reading V...
Dan Slott + Ty Templeton - Spider-Man/Human TorchBright and funny. Slott's She Hulk is also good, but that spans several volumes.
More if I can remember.
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
10yoGrant Morrison - All Star SupermanI’m not a big reader of Supes but this is a beautiful and loving distillation of the character.
14yoGrant Morrison - We3My favorite Morrison, about cyborg animals, I don’t remember how violent is is though.
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link
it is super violent!
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link
All-Star Superman is p much perfect though
Yes, plus you get the acronym which anyone that age will love.
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
Kate Beaton for both
Grant Morisson's Doom Patrol for the 14-year-old
Sfar/Trondheim's "Dungeon Zenith" for both
20th Century Boys for the 14-year-old
Liana Finck's instagram for either
Scalped for the 14 year old (it's like a teenager's idea of an adult book - there are bewbs)
Paper Girls for either
Sic to thread for indies
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link
Also big yes on Top 10 (you might like it too, it's the best)
Oh, and depending on their interest in Marvel lore, the Kieron Gillen 2 x Journey Into Mystery books are very good
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link
Apologies for preemptively gendering the whippersnappers.
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Thursday, 6 December 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link
anything kind of recent I should pay attention to? I just went and bought the first two HC collections of Y: The Last Man. I've likd Saga but maybe not as much as some other people. Obviously Monstress is completely amazing.
― akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link
Axe Cop for children of every age.
― For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link
AFAIK these days it's single-volume for B&W, digest-sized multi-volumes for colour. it looks good in colour imo, and they're less likely to suffer fatigue* when it gets kinda boring later on *both of attention and arms, from holding a huge heavy book
unfortunately the new version of Spidey/Torch has some other bullshit padding it out as well. also She-Hulk is kinda only for nerds, there's loads of continuity stuff that I had trouble dealing with. and the amount of "I'm a lawyer lady who fucks!" might be not suitable for the 11yo if the 14yo is laughing at it and the former gets curious
djh - this is like saying "can you recommend some songs for an 11yo and a 14yo" - what sort of TV or movies or prose books do they like already? (also though: have they read Asterix and Tintin already? get the 11yo loaded up on those from the library asap, especially if your library has older copies of Tintin without eyestrainingly ugly computer lettering)
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link
Trying to remember...there are volumes of Dungeon where the protagonists don't, for example, contract venereal disease from a dalliance with a prostitute, yes? Because I would highly recommend those non-racy volumes to kids if they exist.
― For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link
I didn't follow any of the continuity of She-Hulk, but point taken.
Would also add:
Hellboy - Wake the DevilOcculty apocalyptic weirdness.
akm - I love Lazarus -- deals with the global breakdown of nation-states as polities, which are replaced with corporate families ruling their regions as fiefdoms, WITH SCIENCE.
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link
Also Monstress baffles me, I don't know what's going on (other than Maika being insufferably mean to Kippa).
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link
lumberjanes, especially if they are girls
― adam the (abanana), Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link
Yeah my 11yo loves those
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link
Axe cop is also great
The Dungeon Zeniths are the non-racy, continuity-lite, non-venereal disease containing ones IIRC. Although, er, try before you buy..
Of course it's the often the books with the flashes of Verboten Adult Things that are the most interesting. We had a copy of L'Incal in the French section of my junior school library. The first pages were well-perused.
(NB not recommending L'Incal - although I did enjoy Bllueberry as a kid.)
The Lucky Luke translations are pretty good too. The Spirou ones are awful, sadly.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 6 December 2018 07:07 (five years ago) link
Thinking back to what I was reading at 14 and, hey, why not Sandman? You could do a lot worse, and it's even arguably educational (made me a whole helluva lot more interested in like Shakespeare and mythology than stupid school ever did). I might argue that it's practically tailor-made for fourteen-year-olds.
― For a superlative chug, only the eggiest nog will do! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:01 (five years ago) link
yes, otm, 100% - the best superman story ever told, and suitable for all ages
― We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:12 (five years ago) link
Dungeon Zenith is good but Dungeon Parade is even more non-racy and continuity-lite (as I understand it they're repurposed plots from an aborted Dungeon cartoon?)
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 6 December 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
I just picked up Jason Lutes' Berlin: City of Stones, Vol. 1, which compiles the first 8 issues and was published in 2000. Luckily, the second volume (issues 9-16, I assume) comes out tomorrow, and then I suppose there will likely be another 8 year wait for the third and final volume to come out. ― Z S, Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:34 AM (ten years ago)
― Z S, Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:34 AM (ten years ago)
this guy knew what was up
― sans lep (sic), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link
would like to second the bone rec for either age but specifically i was obsessed with bone when i was 10
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
Thanks all - I'll dip into those.
*this is like saying "can you recommend some songs for an 11yo and a 14yo"*
Yes, I get this completely. The younger one draws a cartoon about a lemon and a lime every day - in the first one the lemon is telling the lime "You're bitter". He likes Minecraft.
The older one seems to like tracksuits and rugby but I don't really know his cultural reference points - I've been told he likes graphic novels!
― djh, Monday, 10 December 2018 13:15 (five years ago) link
The younger one draws a cartoon about a lemon and a lime every day
this kid seems awesome
― fans annoyed as emily atack screams over nick knowles' kumquat (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 December 2018 13:18 (five years ago) link
Yes, definitely get that kid some Axe Cop.
(And it occurs to me now that Axe Cop has been evoked multiple times itt without anyone stating outright that its writer was six years old when it started and this is why Axe Cop is one of the most awesome comics ever.)
― vocabulary is just a way to sound samrter than you actually are (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link
(Sorry, I just double checked and Malachi Nicholle was actually only five when he started writing Axe Cop. My apologies.)
― vocabulary is just a way to sound samrter than you actually are (Old Lunch), Monday, 10 December 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
n the first one the lemon is telling the lime "You're bitter".
Lime's response: "Good God, lemon."
― From Damage Inc. to Metallica Inc. (Leee), Monday, 10 December 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
Seems like some The Far Side treasuries might be good for this fella
Find out which ones!
― sans lep (sic), Monday, 10 December 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
Re: the call for Marvel recommendations in the MCU thread, I went through what they'd collected over the last couple of years (both new and older stuff) and that is likely still in print, and here's some of what I've read and would recommend to a newcomer:
Agents of Atlas Complete Collection Vol. 1Annihilation Complete Collection Vol. 1-2Astonishing Ant-Man Complete CollectionBlack Panther (Ta-Nahesi Coates) Vol. 1-6Fantastic Four by Jonathan Hickman Complete Collection Vol. 1Legion: Son of X Vol. 1-4Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur: The BeginningMs. Marvel: Kamala Khan (Vol. 1) and Metamorphosis (Vol. 2)Silver Surfer (Dan Slott & Michael Allred) Vol. 1-5Spider-Gwen (Jason Latour) Vol. 1-6Thor by Jason Aaron Complete Collection Vol. 1Unstoppable Wasp: G.I.R.L. Power
And these two will be out sometime within the next couple of months:
Hawkeye: Private EyeMiles Morales: With Great Power
The majority of this stuff is appropriate for most ages, but the stuff that maybe skews a little older (Annihilation, Thor, Legion) isn't exactly inappropriate. There's no Grimdark McHardman material in my list, is what I'm saying.
― my but is not working it kept telling me device not found. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link
Gonna take this thread bump as an opportunity to ask for some recs. Every time I go to the comics shop I get overwhelmed and leave empty-handed. There's just so much stuff these days that I have no idea where to even begin.
Things I've enjoyed: Bone (like BradNelson, I was obsessed with it as a kid), Hellboy, Finder, Kate Beaton stuff, Achewood, Derek Kirk Kim, James Kochalka, March, Fun Home. I guess like out-there sci-fi and fantasy stuff, down-to-earth stories about regular people & non-fiction, and sheer absurdity. I've never really been able to get into superheroes. A couple of years ago I started reading Saga, and I liked it OK, but not enough to really stick with it.
― Auld Drink of Misery (zchyrs), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link
Three recent favourites:
https://www.amazon.ca/Prince-Cats-Ron-Wimberly/dp/1632159260
Hip-hop samurai adaptation of Romeo & Juliet; eye-popping art & action.
https://www.amazon.com/Beverly-Nick-Drnaso/dp/1770462252
Dry, dark comedy of suburbia, like a Tod Solondz movie.
https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Jon-McNaught/dp/1910620246
One of the best cartoonists working today. Quiet, meditative, poetic, if you like those things.
― dinnerboat, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
I really enjoyed Sabrina
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
(also by Drnaso)
― brimstead, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
RIYL
Bone
Try Zander Cannon's Kaijumax, a colour series about grumpy giant monsters on a prison island.
Hellboy
The Hellboy spin-offs BPRD &al. might have missed you previously? Also, Beasts Of Burden by Evan Dorkin with Jill Thompson & others is simpatico enough that there was a crossover issue.
Finder
Space light-opera written by a woman, not medium-hard sci-fi cartooned by a woman, but Starstruck by Elaine Lee and M. W. Kaluta
Kate Beaton stuff
Try My Dumb Dirty Eyes by Lisa Hanawalt and The Fart Party by Julia Wertz.
Achewood
For long-running absurd plots filled with a cast of distinctive weirdos, try the last ten years of Thimble Theatre by E. C. Segar, collected in six whopping great Popeye hardcovers by Fantagraphics Books.
Derek Kirk Kim
For more young-ish Asian-Americans living regular lives in the Bay Area, try some Adrian Tomine collections.
James Kochalka
The diary books? The childrens books? The twee metaphor stuff? The motivational speaker stuff? (If the answer was 'everything but the diary books,' those are his best work.)
March
On the real, Maus got its rep for a reason.
Fun Home
But also rolling the previous into this one: Stuck Rubber Baby is a not-entirely-semi-autobiographical novel by a significant gay cartoonist from the '80s.
I guess like out-there sci-fi and fantasy stuff
Sci-fi: Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo. Most of Moebius' work. RASL by Jeff Smith (the Bone guy).Fantasy: Dungeon by Sfar, Trondheim & various. (there are eleventy billion of these.)
down-to-earth stories about regular people
Real Stuff by Dennis Eichorn. Nearly all of the work of Jaime Hernandez (around 1982, and again around 2009, there are about 90 pages with some sci-fi elements). Dori Stories by Dori Seda. The Poor Bastard by Joe Matt.
non-fiction
Kampung Boy by Lat. Most of Joe Sacco's work. Most of Carol Tyler's work.
and sheer absurdity
Ed The Happy Clown by Chester Brown.
Two recommendations from last year that roll a few elements of your taste together: Girl Town, a short-story collection by Carolyn Nowak, and The Prince And The Dressmaker, a graphic novel for YA-and-up readers by Jen Wang.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
I really hated Sabrina.