xp boys: Having read most of http://www.frockflicks.com/, I can only gather the ladies love full bottomed wigs and rouge on boys. While I've yet to see it theatrically, reviews indicate that every male herein is a buffoon (in accord with experience) and that the ladies are quick witted and foul mouthed, which is fairly in accord with my contemporary experience. Also from the aforementioned site the costumes by multiple Oscar winner Sandy Powell all appear to be accurate for their era.
― Sanpaku, Thursday, 29 November 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link
I liked this a lot, my favorite Lanthimos other than The Lobster. It ended pretty abruptly, but that final shot was something else. That bunny at the end was funny, him prodding / teasing the audience a year after Sacred Deer.
I hope he keeps this streak up, I love that he's done three films in three years. Someone has to take up Woody Allen's mantle lol
― flappy bird, Sunday, 9 December 2018 01:13 (five years ago) link
So stoked to see this
― flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2018 01:21 (five years ago) link
Very comfortably the worst of Lanthimos' last five films, but it's in English, has a couple movie stars, a promo budget, and was shot in castles, so it gets the audience. I hate American culture.
MVP: Nicholas Hoult, who has several comic line readings worthy of the late great Peter Cook.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:36 (five years ago) link
also Yorg, lose the fucking fish-eye lens.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:42 (five years ago) link
I don't know that Olivia Colman, Rachel Weisz and Emma Stone are bigger stars than Colin Farrell, Rachel Weisz and Olivia Colman? It's 100% the setting (and of course being in the right language)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 22 December 2018 10:59 (five years ago) link
i think emma stone pulls a lot more weight in 2018 than those other names
― devvvine, Saturday, 22 December 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
Very comfortably the worst of Lanthimos' last five films, but it's in English, has a couple movie stars, a promo budget, and was shot in castles, so it gets the audience.
All true. So you liked it?
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 12:37 (five years ago) link
Some good calls here. I did like it, but The Death of Stalin was a better black comedy about court intrigue.
― I Feel Bad About My Butt (j.lu), Saturday, 22 December 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link
ok, movie stars doing *some* more suitably movie starrish things, rather than having their hands plunged into toasters.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
I liked it better than Deer but not by much. And yeah agreed w Morbs re the fisheye
― resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
Fisheye was effective.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link
It's my least favorite Lanthimos and won't come close to a list of 2018's best but it works as sapphic Merchant Ivory.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link
Effective at what??? He used it seemingly randomly.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
Lanthimos prefers animals to people (and why not?), and the fisheye stuff accepts this phantasmagoric world as seen from the sensibility of a rabbit or lobster.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
There's a case to be made there. I mostly took it as "this ain't your momma's period piece!" signposting
― resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
i liked this movie a lot. haven't seen any of his others but i dug how cold and emotionally distant it was. watching people carry out intrigues, not identifying with them but being fascinated by them. and it looked great.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 22 December 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
I was more annoyed by his gliding drone cam, this had some of that but like half of Sacred Deer used it
― flappy bird, Saturday, 22 December 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
re: fisheye
Lanthimos talks about it here around the 12 minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9CT-dLPTkY
He says it reminded him of the convex mirrors in Dutch paintings from the 17th century.
Anyway, I liked the fisheye lens and I loved this movie.
― Darin, Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
says it reminded him of the convex mirrors in Dutch paintings from the 17th century.
Yep -- I mentioned Parmigianino in my own review.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
A very important film about ladies falling over in very big dresses. After seeing it I watched the lobster and the other one but apart from the scene where the maid is voguing they are a waste of time. People who claim to be more interested in animals than people are so boring and should also make films about or for animals instead.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:32 (five years ago) link
lmao "the other one"
― flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:50 (five years ago) link
I liked The Lobster three years ago and The Favourite three weeks ago so watched the other one last night and yeah, nah.
― sans lep (sic), Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link
The Killing... works better as a satire for viewers who come from seriously dysfunctional families. I cackled through the ending.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link
Looking forward to seeing this (The Favourite) again early in the new year.
I thought this was funny:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbC0xszlyHo
― flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link
People who claim to be more interested in animals than people are so boring and should also make films about or for animals instead.
― plax (ico), Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:32 p.m.
ftr we're animals
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
for restrained Lanthimos, see his last Greek film Alps
Dogtooth still reigns
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 December 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
is Alps streaming or available digitally? there was never a Region 1 home video release.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
Amazon Prime
― Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
ayyyy
― flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
Sacred Deer one is still the only film of his that’s worked for me. The Favourite just felt too empty and vapid and I know that’s one of his things, but why?
― tangenttangent, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
otm
― Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link
Yep
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link
i loved this. it's the only film of his i've loved although i liked both dogtooth and deer. i just loved eveything about it. it is gorgeous to look at.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 7 January 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link
Lanthimos prefers animals to people (and why not?)
disagree w this premise
― flopson, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
thought this was great. a little bit slight, and i thought Rachel Weisz would come back one more time (also nearly everything was in the trailer smh). but i really liked it. the score was excellent
― flopson, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:19 (five years ago) link
as with The Lobaster, I spent the first half absolutely mesmerised and the second half wondering exactly when it was going to end. He seems to introduce all the excitement and fun right near the beginning and then the wheels start spinning and it becomes samey. But yes, I really did enjoy this. The three leads were amazing, the set was incredible, the script perfect. Just could have done with a small trim
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 7 January 2019 22:53 (five years ago) link
i like that every film I've seen by him (as far as I can remember) has a ridiculous dance sequence and a scene where someone deliberately smashes themself in the face
― frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 7 January 2019 22:57 (five years ago) link
we've all been there
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 January 2019 23:00 (five years ago) link
Yes I loved this, mainly for the acting by the three leads - but also for the dialogue, and the costumes (great work by Sandy Powell). I saw two Rachel Weisz films at the weekend (the other was Disobedience), and I’m really impressed by her versatility. I think this will be a cult film in years to come.
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:17 (five years ago) link
I'm not much of fan of anything the director has done since Dogtooth but thought this was very decent. Weisz puts in a right shift, and even that perennial useless fucker Hoult is pretty good. I've not enjoyed the design and costumes of a mainstream brit royal period movie this much since Kapur's Elizabeth.
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link
how is he useless? He bats his eyelashes and purses his lips when he knows I'm watching.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 00:59 (five years ago) link
lol!
― calzino, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 01:01 (five years ago) link
Yes, I loved this too - and what a delight to hear a Luc Ferarri piece on the soundtrack.
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 08:58 (five years ago) link
Hoult is pretty good at playing a ridiculous popinjay tbh.
Loved this, three central performances all excellent, there was something to enjoy in nearly every line, which is rare these days. It's the only one of his I've enjoyed all the way through - although the first half of The Lobster is phenomenal. Not seen Dogtooth.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:11 (five years ago) link
Dogtooth is very very good and I think my fave so far (although it was the first I saw)
― frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 11:14 (five years ago) link
flappy bird, Alps is streaming on Kanopy (as is Dogtooth) if you have access
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link
Just saw this, enjoyed it, but nobody seems to be a very sympathetic character maybe that's good.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:03 (five years ago) link
I haven't seen this yet but I am very happy that it is boosting Olivia Colman's US profile because she is awesome and should be cast in everything.
― GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link
Loved her since this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0fJNDOHYp4
― forrest drumpf (Eric H.), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 18:05 (five years ago) link
"were you sent here to ruin my evening, or possibly my entire life?"
― steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:13 (five years ago) link
shot, chaser
― flappy bird, Thursday, 14 March 2019 04:27 (five years ago) link
Just viewed. I was enchanted until the last 5 minutes, and really wish this could have stuck the landing.
The Draughtman's Contract (likely Lanthimo's major inspiration) is a better film (though the available video transfers from 16mm aren't), but this will remain in rotation.
― contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Thursday, 14 March 2019 05:42 (five years ago) link
Really? I thought the ending was perfect! They both realized they were trapped, but were in their own separate versions of reality. After all of the harshness of the preceding story I thought it was kind of moving
― Dan S, Thursday, 14 March 2019 06:33 (five years ago) link
this was okay, mostly just reminded me that every 10 years or so everyone in the industry appears to develop an insatiable need for an artsy royals/costume drama to enthuse over
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 July 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
But especially if it lets loose with the c-word throughout.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Monday, 8 July 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
Dangerous Liaisons, Marie Antoinette, etc. Something about combining the grotesquerie of prior eras' ruling classes and then rendering them "human"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 8 July 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link
er combining portraying
thought this was really excellent -- Rachel Weisz is becoming one of my "favourite" actors (her failed attempt at seducing the queen immediately after returning from her traumatic accident was darkly hilarious) and i always enjoy Colman and Stone, though i was most surprised by Hoult in this. he's vv funny and also extremely fucking tall, i mean he really downplayed that height in Fury Road w/that hunched over gait i guess but damn. i thought this looked great and just generally the ending was really something else, abrupt but appropriately so. Anne realizing the cruelty of Abigail in that moment and turning on her was quite the moment. i enjoyed the general uselessness of the male characters and the cinematography was really beautiful.
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
"Anne realizing the cruelty of Abigail in that moment and turning on her was quite the moment.”
yes! and Abigail realized that she was trapped right at the same time. it was a great ending.
― Dan S, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link
Shakey, that's a bizarre argument ocnsidering that 'costume dramas' aren't a static genre. We wouldn't say the same about acclaimed sci-fi, film noir, etc. We can have more than one good genre film per quarter
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:35 (four years ago) link
more lesbian cutthroatery than costume genre
think YL will produce something less fashionably pandering next
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
The Favourite wasn't even close to a, ah, favorite of mine last year, but I remember it being #1 in the box office for several weeks and grossing well over $500 million, thanks to its fashionable pandering
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
proof positive!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
it shtunk but as usual Shakey doesn't know why
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:00 (four years ago) link
you know that was a joke, right
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
I have absolutely no memory of last winter's box office
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link
it grossed $96 M worldwide, close enough for I don't give a muddy pile of 18th-century ordure
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
doesn't stop you and Shakey from being wrong
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
this is a weird stand to take; it's as if Lanthimos betrayed you by essaying another film into which he poured his usual obsessions, successfully or not.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
To think that Lanthimos pandered by making a film in a genre that its makers struggle to get financed
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
it wasn't a SPIDERMAN reboot and cost $15 million, of course they struggled
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:44 (four years ago) link
i watched this while i was flying to turks and caicos to, uh, get myself in the mood for vacation?
i remember it more fondly now a couple months later. my immediate reaction was that i wanted it to be funnier.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link
I’m not sure I understand exactly what his obsessions are, except maybe portraying extreme outsiderness and the feeling of being uncomfortable in one’s body, but I really did like this film, more than any other of his. I'm looking forward to Pop. 1280
― Dan S, Thursday, 11 July 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
Dude needs to lose the fisheye
― flappy bird, Friday, 12 July 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
I liked the fisheye in this and don’t remember him using it in any previous films
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Friday, 12 July 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
Lanthimos commented somewhere that the fisheye was motivated (in part) to distance his film from his influences (Draughtman's Contract, Barry Lyndon).
― despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
That's interesting. The fisheye worked really well. There are also scenes that are actually candle-lit, I suspect (re barry lyndon)
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link
I think about the draughtsman's a lot with regard to this.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
like the cinematography in this.
rachel weisz was a revelation (to me, who am not familiar with her filmography).
still haven't liked any of lanthimos' films as much as dogtooth
― bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
never saw the draughtsman's contract, it's on my list of films to watch this year
― Dan S, Friday, 12 July 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link
xp She's great and extremely fanciable, obv, but I didn't find her performance to be any better than any of the other main characters. Everyone is excellent in it. YL clearly has a profound engagement with actors/ performances.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
I meant to say that I didn't find her a revelation because I always think she's extremely good.
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, 12 July 2019 23:46 (four years ago) link
― Funky Isolations (jed_), Friday, July 12, 2019 7:28 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is interesting. i haven't seen the draughtsman's contract in years but would be curious about how you see them relating. there is a certain formalism and they both have some episodic plotting. maybe it's just tough for me to relate greenaway to anything.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
I relate Greenaway to Derek Jarman, not that their styles were that similar, I guess because they were both experimental British filmmakers from the 1980s-1990s
― Dan S, Saturday, 13 July 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
Not hard to find Lanthimos namechecking Draughtman's Contract in at least 4 interviews.
4 Oscar-Nominated Directors Reveal Their Biggest Inspirations
During preproduction we looked at different films — some of them period, some contemporary — in order to be inspired in different ways. We looked at period films that made bold choices in the past and were creative in how they dealt with the genre including Amadeus (Milos Forman), The Madness of King George (Nicholas Hytner), The Draughtsman's Contract (Peter Greenaway) and Cries and Whispers (Ingmar Bergman) in terms of tone but also visually.
― despondently sipping tomato soup (Sanpaku), Saturday, 13 July 2019 06:03 (four years ago) link
I loved the first episode of The Great - ploughing much the same furrow as The Favourite (right down to Nicholas Hoult's obnoxious performance), but it's one I apparently can't get enough of.
― chap, Monday, 4 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link