The Jordan Peterson Thread

I don’t think he’s evangelical but he’s def a Christian, I think he kinda plays down the specifics to appeal to a broader demographic. He’s got a super dumb argument that even if you profess to be an atheist you’re not, as long as you have a moral code that generally aligns with Christian teachings.

His philosopht is much dumber than Christianity

Wait, JP is an evang christian?! Arent most of his fans neckbeard athiests?

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:31 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some of his fans get upset about his christianity but most of the non-christian ones seem to get by it easily enough and it helps of course that he doesn't foreground it.

some people who are very peterson-adjacent are put off by his christianity, which is funny because being christian is the most innocuous thing about the man

I should clarify, he operates as an evangelist, not an evangelical christian, if that makes sense. his talks/events are sermons, and obviously informed by actual religious sermons

i thought that he was just into christianity for the archetypes

I think that's the only stuff he talks about at length but he's definitely a practicing Christian

that's too bad. christians have enough bad PR.

Yes, Stuart Murdoch's one too.

75% of americans identify as christian

Neither Jordan or Stuart have that excuse.

zing.

i feel like christianity is such a broad net that you can't draw inferences about what someone is like based on the fact that they are christian. like, my parents have nothing to do with peterson's lobster morality and i don't think murdoch does either.

I know, I was just poking fun at ILM's patron saint.

ah

when I found out ILM's origin story was based around that insipid tapioca cunt - I dug out my CB radio and never touched the internet again.

ILX tries to act hard but it’s actually much more twee than I am

The softest place on the net

Vox Day (Theodore Beale) is so mad that Jordan Peterson outshone him that he wrote a whole book about it.

Milo, who is also mad he's irrelevant now, wrote the foreword. pic.twitter.com/UutWcQ89uH

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) November 29, 2018

Lol @ "I'm a smart person. Really smart, actually."

Taken straight from the 'very stable genius' playbook.

Ha, is this the very expensive education he was referring to?:

Yiannopoulos was educated at Simon Langton Grammar School for Boys in Canterbury from which he has said he was expelled.[22] He attended the University of Manchester but dropped out before graduating; he then read English at Wolfson College, Cambridge, but was sent down[1]

Simon Langton Grammar School:

The school has been linked with the music of the Canterbury scene as founding members of the Wilde Flowers, Caravan and Soft Machine were alumni.[12] Robert Wyatt is probably the most well known of the musicians that stemmed from Soft Machine. Ian MacDonald, then editor of NME, was quoted in 1975 to have described the school as "an exclusive, private establishment for the sons of local intellectuals and artists. Very free, emphatically geared to the uninhibited development of self-expression. A hot-bed to teenage avant-garderie."[13]

"A hot-bed to teenage avant-garderie"

almost qualifies for the tunesmithery thread !

Was Louis J a pupil?

Ian MacDonald, then editor of NME: on the editorial staff, never editor

was quoted in 1975 to have described the school as: lol wikipedia and how it makes ppl write

I associate the word “avant-garderie” with Derek Bailey because according to the Watson book he’d use it dismissively whenever Watson started talking about something too poncey, “oh yes, the old avant-garderie again isn’t it”

i suspect macdonald is also being a little tongue-in-cheek

Talking of Derek Bailey has this uncanny resemblance ever been point out before?

http://www.legana.org/e-newz/images/2014/08aug2014/2014aug31/great-grumpy-old-man.jpg

I don't doubt that those schools are expensive but lol @ citing elite educational credentials that consist of getting kicked out of, failing, or dropping out of a bunch of expensive schools.

If Simon Langton Grammar School is a grammar school, then there's no fees? I can't pretend to understand the English education system though.

grammar schools that are also part boarding school charge fees for boarding apparently: https://ngsa.org.uk/faqs.php

but i don't think this applies here -- it seems to be a normal grammar school with slightly up-itself trappings ("houses").

e.g. Ian MacDonald, NOT then editor of NME, was quoted in 1975 to have misdescribed the school as etc

We had houses at my bog standard comp.!

In this introduction milo says that peterson was correct to describe him as a “trickster figure” who emerges in “times of crisis.” Kinda weird to think of oneself as an archetype generated by the zeitgeist, much less a symptom of social disorder.

I get why he was flattered by it but still

jordan peterson's take on burger king pic.twitter.com/CtslgvVNNC

— ☀️👀 (@zei_nabq) December 16, 2018

That is an excellent impression

Unreal

I lost it when he brought up Solzhenitsyn

very good

A true philosopher king in the grand Platonic tradition.

Speaking of, I uselessly clicked on a discussion he just uploaded between himself and Roger Scruton at the "Cambridge Centre for the Study of Platonism" (??). I didn't get very far, but it's slightly worth watching the very beginning for the unbelievable Oxbridge don caricature who gives the intro: https://youtu.be/oJ9JapLD5aQ

i think they're probably dudes who keep the papers of ralph cudworth and the like, a long tradition

very long

Apprehending the Transcendent

I can't get over how impeccable and specific that impression is, it's masterful

yeah I almost can't believe it's a fake

Jesus, I can't think of a worse double bill of academics than Peterson & Scruton.

Omg at the Burger King video

Sir Roger Scruton, makes me wince every time I see that.

yeah I almost can't believe it's a fake

― frogbs, Monday, December 17, 2018 1:47 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I got a minute in before I knew it was fake. Seriously incredible

yeah the key to someone being an ideal impression subject is that they're easy to do well but difficult to really *nail*, and JBP is in that sweet spot