Still have quite finished their Japanese Level 1.
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
I'm still looking for something to really drill the hell out of conjugations, it's still a weak area for me.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 18 November 2018 21:45 (seven years ago)
Yeah, good luck with that
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 November 2018 21:50 (seven years ago)
Okay, with this kind of sentence I am starting to sort of see what is going onもし彼が歩くのなら、私も歩く。
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 00:14 (seven years ago)
Shouldn’t that be
もし彼は歩いたら、私もあるく。
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 19 November 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)
Subordinate in particular conditional clauses use が not は. Not sure about the の, sometimes it functions to make a verb a noun. In any case this sentence is from Reverse Japanese Duolingo tree, so I assume it is correct. I even took a screenshot. But yeah, I would have said the same as you a little while ago.
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 01:15 (seven years ago)
Of course if the subjects of both clauses are the same you might could use は for the whole sentence.Found this example using のなら in both dictionary apps I have, perhaps you will have it as well:スーパーへ行くのならオレンジをいくつか買って来て下さいませんか。If you're going to the supermarket, will you please bring me back some oranges?
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 01:23 (seven years ago)
Hopefully someone more advanced will advise
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 01:30 (seven years ago)
Also seeing some conditionals ending in と, which Tae Kim also explains.
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
Ah の adds emphasis in なら as a conditional according to Maggiesensei
http://maggiesensei.com/2015/11/07/how-to-use-%e3%81%aa%e3%82%89-nara/
Not that I’ve studied that form of conditional.
I still don’t quite have it down the difference between が、ので、けれども and all the other ‘buts’
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 19 November 2018 07:14 (seven years ago)
Yup.Just learned a new use of を. From Midori:3. indicates an area traversed
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 19 November 2018 22:53 (seven years ago)
Is midori worth 10 dollars more than the free Japanese dictionary on iOS?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 19 November 2018 23:07 (seven years ago)
Yes
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 00:41 (seven years ago)
You could also try imiwa? which hasn’t been updated in a year or so I think, but is free and still pretty good.Also, here is a good write up of something I have been thinking of and we may have discussed before: http://lingwiki.com/index.php?title=On_vs._Kun_readings
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:09 (seven years ago)
actually jisho.org looks pretty good for kanji purposes, maybe one of us mentioned upthread/zing
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 01:20 (seven years ago)
Still gets me a little stirred up when Midori and imiwa? have strange, rare, kanji readings like the second one here ふみ【文, 書】that I can’t find in any other learner’s dictionary.
― Recnac and my 📛 is Yrral (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:20 (seven years ago)
So LingoDeer is going to paid subscription model, although prior users are grandfathered out of it for a little bit. Still, this Japanese- and Korean!- 2 course looks really good and seems to be worth it. Another two days to get the lifetime subscription.
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 November 2018 03:51 (seven years ago)
I bought the lifetime subscription on the strength of level 2.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 25 November 2018 08:12 (seven years ago)
Went ahead and did the same for the same reason
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 November 2018 14:26 (seven years ago)
My Reverse Duolingo Tree approach has been useful but tedious and laborious
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 25 November 2018 14:35 (seven years ago)
轍鮒
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 11:10 (seven years ago)
鳩が豆鉄砲を食ったよう
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 11:11 (seven years ago)
盆と正月が一緒に来たよう, 盆と正月が一緒に来た様
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 11:12 (seven years ago)
深淵に臨むが如し
Wonder who else if anyone will jump on the LingoDeer bandwagon today
― Gottseidank, es ist Blecch Freitag (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 November 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)
So mildly curious why the beginning of ヶ月 is pronounced “ka” and not “ke”
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 December 2018 13:20 (seven years ago)
Also interesting that 図 has two ON readings
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 December 2018 14:54 (seven years ago)
Can’t actually find such a character in a Chinese dictionary. Do find the inside, 斗 dǒu, which seems to represent The Big Dipper.
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 December 2018 16:24 (seven years ago)
Simplified Chinese “map” is 图, pronounced tú, with old complicated character being 圖. So perhaps another case of different simplification.
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 December 2018 19:45 (seven years ago)
Ah, and now I see same words with both the new and old kanji written out in the entry ずかい【図解, 圖解】And, even betterふと【不図, 不斗, 不圖】
― My Ital Rival (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 December 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
Just learned ないといけない【ないと行けない, 無いといけない, 無いと行けない】
― What is Blecchism ? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 3 December 2018 14:47 (seven years ago)
So far so good with LingoDeer Japanese 2
― What is Blecchism ? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:41 (seven years ago)
I'm doing that in my spare moments but most of my time available is spent omg WaniKani and Bunpro. It's locking in grammar and vocab like nothing before.
I can bust out a
毎日漢字を勉強したら、漫画を読むことが出来る。日本語はペラペラになるといいです。
no sweat.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:02 (seven years ago)
You mean Bunpro?
― What is Blecchism ? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:19 (seven years ago)
no bunpro
bunko I hadn't heard of, looks interesting
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 6 December 2018 02:40 (seven years ago)
bunpo
Parsing sentences like this
食べたことのない甘さがあるクッキーをつくってみたい。
Is really hard on paper, but doing it whilst listening is really hard. It feels like the hook of the sentence is right at the end
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 6 December 2018 22:24 (seven years ago)
Bunpro?
― What is Blecchism ? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 6 December 2018 23:50 (seven years ago)
That is a Bunpro sentence, yes.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 7 December 2018 01:15 (seven years ago)
Learning about the use of 方 and より in comparatives
― What Do I Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 December 2018 21:24 (seven years ago)
Duolingo just told me君ならできる
― What Do I Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 December 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)
頑張ってください
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:44 (seven years ago)
Ha, thanks. It tells me that too
― What Do I Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 December 2018 23:56 (seven years ago)
It’s all so simple.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/AMB_Japanese_Verbs.pdf/page1-1754px-AMB_Japanese_Verbs.pdf.jpg
I have a laminated copy of this in my work bag
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 14 December 2018 23:05 (seven years ago)
Heh, that looks pretty good.So have been using three dictionaries apps extensively recently: imiwa?, Japanese and Midori. Perhaps I will organize my thoughts at some point and post about how they measure up to each other.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:11 (seven years ago)
Just printed that out. Very interesting but some of it is hard to read, such as the green humble and honorific box on the back.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 15 December 2018 12:42 (seven years ago)
井の中の蛙大海を知らず
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 December 2018 12:53 (seven years ago)
猿も木から落ちる
ナイス！
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 December 2018 22:41 (seven years ago)
The Duolingo Japanese course from English is so-so, but the Progress Quiz is actually quite challenging.
― Spirit of the Voice of the Beehive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 December 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)