one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

seems telling that given all the noise from the ERG they're still clearly struggling to wring 48 no confidence letters out

*amaze and entertain your friends by fashioning a matt-style cock-and-balls from a handkerchief!!*

xp

Typical fearless Tory rebellion.

it's almost like this so called "centre ground" of like-minded sensible politicians is more an idea than an actuality.

lol the far right tory rebels are just as useless as the "moderates".

poor bastards just can't agree on the best way to fuck over the needy and enrich themselves in the process

Perhaps people will go back to treating JRM like the clown he obviously is now rather than some kind of evil genius?

Amber Rudd to DWP? Amber Rudd who grew up in... Knightsbridge?

She's shown a thirst for the blood of the poor, that'll serve her well.

Maybe deport some of those pesky benefits claimants.

they needed somebody already toxic beyond belief and the stench of Hostile Environment is already all over her, so makes perfect sense.

.. well makes perfect sense for a dying government who can barely look beyond the next week atm.

what a Ruddy disgrace

Great to have @AmberRuddHR back at the Cabinet table. #ruddygood

— Liz Truss (@trussliz) November 16, 2018

Y'all talk like there's any Tory MP who'd make an acceptable champion of this country's poorest.

Anna Soubry of course, she must be nice because Chukka said so !

bbbbut rudd handled the windrush stuff so compassionately

It's Heydrichs all the way down, peeps

Give it to me straight, folks, is May going down or nah

Not at the hands of her own MPs is my best guess

Stephen Barclay, new Brexit Secretary. Ummmmmmmmmm.

Get used to see this face.

http://www.clker.com/cliparts/Q/S/S/h/m/v/grey-anonymous-man-md.png

Literally never heard of him.

had Stephen Barclay even heard of Stephen Barclay before?

"Barclay was named by Conservative Home as one of a minority of loyal Conservative backbench MPs not to have voted against the government in any significant rebellions."

Well that explains everything.

at this point it's like when FM manager starts spawning made up footballers in future seasons.

No because some FM regens are really good

Kuenssberg was on Brexitcast yesterday saying that replacing Raab with a nonentity was almost worse than just winding up the department altogether, particularly given that the job of DExEU secretary has appeared to consist of standing there like a melon getting undercut by May's deputies. But I guess May found someone who was pre-melonned already

Stephen Barclay, the Bobson Dugnutt of modern conservatism

People said the same about Stephen Crabb and look where he is now.

he's swimming with Lionel Crabb.

lmao when did t0m h4rw00d join guido ?!

Tom Hardy confirmed as a royal brown noser as well, quelle surprise tbf.

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/11/16/why-britain-needs-its-own-mueller/

leave our mueller alone, he's very busy

no worries, we've got the National Crime Agency, everything will be peachy

that cadwaller feature is great

It's frustrating that there's very little serious journalism covering this. Cadwalladr, to put it politely, seems to have been on a crusade to make the facts fit her theories for the last two years. It's difficult to know whether there is an organised government campaign to keep a lid on a proper investigation, whether Banks' crimes are so technical in nature that there's just nothing interesting enough about them - over and above their illegality - to make them more newsworthy, whether judicious journalists are waiting for more evidence before spinning potentially libelous theories or whether there's something more substantial there. The misuse of data angle wrt Facebook / Cambridge Analytica seems to have flared and died out shortly after the Select Committee hearing in April, which is a shame as it deserves more thorough investigation irrespective of whatever else might have happened.

isn't part of the problem that there's no mechanism for unpicking or annulling referendums or elections? so whatever justice gets brought to people in violation of election law fails to actually keep them from their goal - it feels so futile.

Yes, though I think if there was enough of a case, it would probably add to the moral weight for a second referendum. That certainly seems to be what a lot of the FBPE cru are banking on. The need to tie things in to an international conspiracy is key. Technical breaches of electoral law are dull on their own.

Quite enjoyed Jo Johnson in the FT today, torturously attempting to distance himself from the direct consequences of the manifesto he largely wrote.

Art of politics

...

“The future of the country and our relationship with Europe is at stake. This deal gives us no voice, no votes, no MEPs, no commissioner.” #RemainerNow pic.twitter.com/uNNbQJywp4

— Property Spotter (@PropertySpot) November 17, 2018

Westminster voting intentiomn:

LAB: 39% (+2)
CON: 36% (-5)
UKIP: 8% (+2)
LDEM: 7% (-1)
GRN: 3% (-)

via @OpiniumReseach, 14 Nov
Chgs. w/ 11 Oct

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) November 17, 2018

polls schmolls and all that, but one for the "imagine if Labour had a real leader" crowd!

that crowd think that a real leader who promises to cancel brexit and not tax anyone too much would be at 60% in the polls

like the manifesto of that party polling lower than UKIP!

exactly!

I might be wrong, if there was a 2019 election, I feel like that poll is where we'd be at going into the election campaign, but possibly a slightly bigger share going to UKIP from the Tories.

It might be a bad assumption, but I assume the far right brexit wingnuts amongst the conservative voters are much more implacable and more likely to elope to UKIP than the Labour ones. But this might be wrong!

I was just about to post that a pollster on Newsnight last night said that Labour Leave voters seem to be more likely to regret voting Leave than Tory Leave voters - this despite the endless media campaign to paint Leave voters as being exclusively Labour voting proles from Oop North.

going to be extremely good when labour take a shedload of seats off the SNP next time round