feel like twitter is only for the extremely online and facebook will be increasingly for the olds, like my aunt who still has an aol email address
fb will still have vast reach, but capitalism tends to frown on enterprises that can no longer grow
― mookieproof, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
this is always worth a look: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272014/global-social-networks-ranked-by-number-of-users/
hard to see FB dying anytime soon when you also include Messenger, WhatsApp, and IG
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link
if that's accurate it's amazing to think of the inflated media importance Twitter carries over say Tik Tok
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
i don't even know what tik tok is
― marcos, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link
yeah it's for the youthhttps://www.theverge.com/2018/11/5/18009260/tiktok-musically-youtube-challenge-vine
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
not surprisingly FB wants to devour them: https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/24/facebook-musically-competitor/
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
what % of Tik Tok users are in China, would be my question
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
good point. I should have just pointed out that Twitter has almost the same number of users as Reddit
― rob, Thursday, 15 November 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
this is the real danger for facebook imo
this sort of seems like a ... correct diagnosis, no? like a gresham's law of social networks, the less normal people trust facebook the crazier it will get? https://t.co/QCnPIuGrEb— Matt Levine (@matt_levine) November 15, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 November 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link
i haven't read the referenced article because i have twitter blocked on my computer, but i'm not sure gresham's law would apply here - facebook is far more centralized than a site like for instance twitter is, and for extremism to increase there facebook would have to be okay with making extremism their overt business model. i think its particular doom is more likely to look like aol, but hell i can't predict the future
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:58 (five years ago) link
I don’t think there is any evidence at all that Facebook is not ok with making extremism their business model
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
it's possible. i think there's going to be a fairly significant push for the new house to put them under significant scrutiny. we'll see how facebook manage that challenge - calling us all "anti-semites" will only get them so far, particularly if they're courting the daily stormer's audience at the same time.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:41 (five years ago) link
what is a doom that looks more like aol? aol has failed in so many different ways over such a long time.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link
a history of aol's acquisitions reads a bit like the golden state warrior's draft history before steph curry
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 November 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, November 15, 2018
AOL's failure is kind of like Yahoo!'s -- mostly just failure to admit you caught lightning in a bottle once and you're never ever going to do it again.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 November 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link
Er, Yahoo is the sixth most visited website.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 November 2018 06:48 (five years ago) link
How much of that is because they bought the default search engine slot in Firefox though?
― koogs, Friday, 16 November 2018 07:50 (five years ago) link
(oh, it's back to Google again now, but for a while they switched to Yahoo)
― koogs, Friday, 16 November 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 November 2018 08:29 (five years ago) link
The thing I don’t get about this FB scandal is that I’ve literally never seen the effects of it? Like I’ve never seen anyone getting slammed by Soros conspiracy theorists for criticizing Facebook. Am I misunderstanding how this works?
― crĂĽt, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link
different filter bubble?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 November 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link
maybe it only happened on twitter
― crĂĽt, Friday, 16 November 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
the article's a bit vague about it, but I think those Soros theory articles were fed to conservative news sites (e.g., Breitbart)
― rob, Friday, 16 November 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link
it wasn't just one conspiracy theory angle, is the deal
it sounds like it was almost all seeded to right-wing sites like beetbort, but the point in that type of campaign isn't to create a compelling single narrative as to why facebook is a net good. it's to cast doubt on facebook critics from as many angles as possible so there's no consensus or allied front that would push for a boycott or punitive legislation. you just want to make anyone who criticizes facebook seem like a crackpot
― mh, Friday, 16 November 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
― mh
i'm not sure they're doing a very good job of this tbh
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
the big problem is that there are still a lot of people using facebook and _none of them like it_
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
or maybe _some of them don't like it_
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link
_NONE_
― j., Friday, 16 November 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
even suckerberg seems to have lost his joie de vivre
with his dumbass posts about his stupid wonderful discoveries of life or whatever
― j., Friday, 16 November 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
never see those anymore
facebook is a self-maintaining birthday calendar that allows me to be as lazy as possible about stupid shit like birthdays. for this, i am eternally grateful.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
At some point approx a decade ago I somehow exported the birthdays in FB to my computer's calendar, and I've had it activated ever since. Every now and then I drop someone with whom I have only fairly tenuous attachment a little birthday note - VIA EMAIL - and cackle to myself
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
they must think you are a birthday genius. i do.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
man even Facebook is running ads to say "let's all go back to the time when Facebook was fun"
don't really see companies that have to run ads like that having long term success
― frogbs, Friday, 16 November 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
domino's is certainly almost bankrupt after using a similar marketing maneuver
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
coming soon: commercials where people on the street are asked to try a social network, they report that it's really fun and fresh, and then are shocked and amazed to be told they've been using facebook!!
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
the Dominos thing was "we've always sucked" which is a bit different though similar I must admit
― frogbs, Friday, 16 November 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
when I sign on to facebook, I want to see a little ticker that says "craig is preparing your facebook feed" below a progress bar.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
facebook finally gave me the motivation i needed to start actively ignoring the birthdays of everybody i know, i guess i'm grateful to it for that
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton)
sure, i'm sure there are people who think comcast is the bee's knees, too. are we really heading for a world where no lazy overgeneralizations are permissible at all? i guess i can't complain too much about that.
― dub pilates (rushomancy), Friday, 16 November 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
facebook should produce a movie that is "A Christmas Carol" but for birthdays
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
or they should acquire some of the most valuable birthdays out there. turn around facebook by turning around birthdays.
― for i, sock in enumerate (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 November 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
When signage for Doggy Style began popping up in San Francisco’s Noe Valley neighborhood last month, it was accompanied with the usual grumbling and eye-rolling about the city’s nouveau riche.After all, a private members-only doggy daycare offering an “innovative dog experience” for up to $1,500 a month in a city in the midst of a humanitarian crisis over homelessness smacks of a well-groomed French bulldog yipping: “Let them eat kibble.”Noe Valley SF, a hyperlocal blog, decried the Doggy Style co-owner Rachel Swann for “bringing ridicule” to the neighborhood, while comments on an SFGate article about the business ranged from scoffing at “people with too much time and money” to the vaguely threatening: “When the Bolsheviks are looking for the first people to shoot, club members will be at the top of the list.”While critics were quick to lambast Doggy Style’s prices as exorbitant, its pricing is actually in line with other doggy daycare in San Francisco. High-end daytime dog care is a thriving and competitive market in a city fueled by tech wealth and disposable income.When Doggy Style launches this month, it will be one of at least a dozen businesses that specifically offer “playcare” during work hours within the city’s 47 square miles.Mr Muggles, located in the Mission District, offers monthly passes for unlimited daycare, Monday through Friday, for $600. A half-mile north, a monthly unlimited membership costs $630 at Wag Hotel, but with an added monthly valet service, the price can go up to $929 a month. At Tefani and So Dogcare in the South of Market neighborhood, an unlimited monthly pass costs $849, while at Bark Avenue Doggy Daycare in Mission Bay, a rate of $80 a day can bring costs up to $1,600 a month.And at those prices, Fido is not just getting left outside in a doghouse. Some daycares have webcams set up for their owners to check in on their pups. Others provide daily photos and report cards, as well as neighborhood group walks on top of all-day play. K9 Playtime, located in the South of Market and South Beach neighborhoods, has “waterfalls and ponds” installed in its doggy play areas “with re-circulating filtered drinking water so your dog is well hydrated throughout their day with fresh, clean water”.(...)“We just struggled for years to balance the work life and the dog lifestyle,” Silva said.Opening Doggy Style “is solving our own problem”, he said.The high cost of dog care was another of the reasons motivating Silva and Swann to open Doggy Style, they say. Between the two of them, they have seven dogs.“I was previously paying $75 to $85 a day,” Silva said. “People don’t realize how expensive it is to have a dog in this city.”
After all, a private members-only doggy daycare offering an “innovative dog experience” for up to $1,500 a month in a city in the midst of a humanitarian crisis over homelessness smacks of a well-groomed French bulldog yipping: “Let them eat kibble.”
Noe Valley SF, a hyperlocal blog, decried the Doggy Style co-owner Rachel Swann for “bringing ridicule” to the neighborhood, while comments on an SFGate article about the business ranged from scoffing at “people with too much time and money” to the vaguely threatening: “When the Bolsheviks are looking for the first people to shoot, club members will be at the top of the list.”
While critics were quick to lambast Doggy Style’s prices as exorbitant, its pricing is actually in line with other doggy daycare in San Francisco. High-end daytime dog care is a thriving and competitive market in a city fueled by tech wealth and disposable income.
When Doggy Style launches this month, it will be one of at least a dozen businesses that specifically offer “playcare” during work hours within the city’s 47 square miles.
Mr Muggles, located in the Mission District, offers monthly passes for unlimited daycare, Monday through Friday, for $600. A half-mile north, a monthly unlimited membership costs $630 at Wag Hotel, but with an added monthly valet service, the price can go up to $929 a month. At Tefani and So Dogcare in the South of Market neighborhood, an unlimited monthly pass costs $849, while at Bark Avenue Doggy Daycare in Mission Bay, a rate of $80 a day can bring costs up to $1,600 a month.
And at those prices, Fido is not just getting left outside in a doghouse. Some daycares have webcams set up for their owners to check in on their pups. Others provide daily photos and report cards, as well as neighborhood group walks on top of all-day play. K9 Playtime, located in the South of Market and South Beach neighborhoods, has “waterfalls and ponds” installed in its doggy play areas “with re-circulating filtered drinking water so your dog is well hydrated throughout their day with fresh, clean water”.
(...)
“We just struggled for years to balance the work life and the dog lifestyle,” Silva said.
Opening Doggy Style “is solving our own problem”, he said.
The high cost of dog care was another of the reasons motivating Silva and Swann to open Doggy Style, they say. Between the two of them, they have seven dogs.
“I was previously paying $75 to $85 a day,” Silva said. “People don’t realize how expensive it is to have a dog in this city.”
― tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/08/dog-daycare-san-francisco-doggy-style
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST
― j., Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:03 (five years ago) link
meh. coming to you live from the bay area imho this isn't even close to all caps jfc
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:06 (five years ago) link
i can't stop turning the phrase 'innovative dog experience' over and over in my mind
― tacticool spank bank material (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:09 (five years ago) link
a city in the midst of a humanitarian crisis over homelessness “I’m sure the dogs don’t complain and that’s the most important thing.”a city in the midst of a humanitarian crisis over homelessness “I’m sure the dogs don’t complain and that’s the most important thing.”
― jmm, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:13 (five years ago) link
if this is the same company called doggy style in philly they're just a conventional pet store supply place with normal prices the worst thing about them is their name
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 16:15 (five years ago) link