one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW4LfmZ_Bw4

on the same day the Brown churl get's back in the ring as well!

> “(Brexit) was meant to be about a brave new future as a deregulated economy. But we’re signing up to the common rule book on standards and health and safety, the environment and all the rest of it. It’s completely incoherent”.

yeah, because standards and health and safety and environment are such bad things to have rules for...

if there's one thing the last 20 years or so of british economic history has taught us, it's that deregulated economies are definitely good not bad

and here's Gordon Brown to explain why

gordon brown, the mohammed atta of economics

I think that Jo Johnson quote was more of strategic attack on the contradictions of the Brexit camp rather than moaning about the lack of deregulation in May's brexit plan, but I might be wrong - just how I read it.

at least atta had the decency to make his big moment in the spotlight a suicide run ffs

yeah you're probably right calz

still, fuck jo johnson

Brown would have missed the fucking tower

I'm sorry but this was just a great one-two

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/12/falling-numbers-migrants-creating-shortage-skilled-workers-britain/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/11/alarm-over-talks-to-implant-uk-employees-with-microchips

lol we're not gonna die fast enough (or permanently enough)

In fairness to Brown, unlike certain former PMs I could mention, he's actually held his hands up and gone 'I fucked up with this' on various issues including City regulation and his interventions have been significantly more substantive and less concerned with the preservation of self-image than Blair's. Hard to see what today's intervention was for, although he's right that the worse Brexit goes, the more likely it is that Britain will reapply to join the EU at some point, probably on worse terms than we currently have.

I assume he was just hassling Corbyn tbh

Sorry, I briefly forgot that everything revolves around him.

tbf it does. today's Guardian line being 'JC is just as bad as Boris'

Meanwhile from the FT:

The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator has said the main elements of an exit treaty text are ready to present to the UK cabinet on Tuesday, according to diplomats briefed on the discussions.

Speaking after late-night talks that ran to almost 3am, Michel Barnier told ministers from the EU’s remaining 27 member states that “the parameters of a possible agreement are very largely defined” but still require political endorsement.

While guarded and making clear that exchanges with London are continuing, Mr Barnier’s private comments have raised expectations in some national capitals that a breakthrough on a withdrawal text is within reach this week. Diplomats underlined that everything will turn on whether Theresa May will be able to muster support from her cabinet.

Seems to be notably different from what the Guardian was saying earlier today.

everything will turn on whether Theresa May will be able to muster support from her cabinet

well, yeah

jordan peterson versus helen lewis.... do I want to watch this

it is extremely funny. he is one angry wee man

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/13/cabinet-members-called-in-to-sign-off-mays-brexit-deal

Watch this get shot right down.

Cabinet members will have to sign off Theresa May’s Brexit plan, including the principal document, the withdrawal agreement, which runs to more than 400 pages of dense legal text.

Ministers will be given an opportunity to read the documents before the meeting, and will be scrutinising them carefully to see when and how the Irish border backstop can be terminated and what is contained within its provisions.

what could possibly go wrong

Who do we think is going to tank it or flounce out? I'm going with Fox, Leadsom, Mordaunt and Gavin Williamson. Gove to stick around despite making it clear how unhappy he is.

Sounds about right

Raab.

You'd have to assume Raab has at least a passing acquaintance with what's inside although I wouldn't be surprised if he was completely ignorant of it.

Basically we don't have many of these nobs pegged as readers I take it

400 pages and the dup have to agree with everything on each of them

lads do ye think we started bombing them because they were too easygoing or what is it like

xxp his job iirc is just basically turning up to the off meeting and making aggressive/ignorant comments, Oly Robbins and May will be the ones behind this. She didn’t bother delegating the responsibility post-Davis.

Also can I express my rage at people on twitter trying to make out Corbyn doesn’t care about Irish people because “his neglect is endangering the GFA” while the literal government is in an arrangement with the only party to oppose the GFA?!?

xp “we”

the royal we oh shi-*explodes*

If you a bull-bucka
Let me tell you
I'm a dup conqueror

Darraghmac, he’s in the Ra

Oh PIRA yes they rob I
Sold I to the merchant ships

It's obvious you hate me, though I've done nothing wrong
I've never even bombed you, so what could I have done?

Also, depending on what this deal says, very real chance of the budget being voted down which makes an election very likely. Truly we are in the banter era.

Come on lads, the single most important aspect of this harakiri is the failure of some commie twat to destroy the Labour Party in a vain gesture to prevent it

If the DUP, Tory rebels and most of Labour all vote against it, it's impossible to see how the deal gets through Parliament. The only way I can see it happening is if there's a complete market meltdown, including the collapse of the pound, and enough MPs then bottle it and vote an amended version through.

Has anything intelligent been written about what happens if and when the proposed deal is voted down? I assume we crash out without a deal unless there's a super-fast election and extension of Article 50. And I'm not sure that any political party is going to be thanked in the event of no deal, because they'll all be culpable.

It's quite easy to imagine a scenario where Labour gets the lion's share of the blame for the oncoming crisis and then we're all really fucked.

In which case it may be useful for Corbyn to take the blame, to seem as if he's going against the will of the party. We can get rid of Corbyn, and continue the move left.

It is actually quite funny watching the usual twats queue up to denounce a 400 page document that none of them have read.

i can absolutely imagine a general election being triggered soon and the tories still being in government

I can also imagine Labour winning an election tbh

i can imagine... alan yentob

I can imagine there's no heaven

Maitlis outright lying about Corbyn on Newsnight. Blaming Labour for Brexit would be a bit rich.

Are we leaving UNESCO?

" not content with causing the 2008 global financial crisis, the Labour Party then fucked up Brexit for us" might lack credibility in '18, even with sections of the electorate that aren't really paying much attention. But in 2015 Labour were fucking terrible at shutting down the former line of attack, possibly cos they were too busy trying to prove they could be just as big a bunch of cunts as Gideon at the time. I'd like to think this time that blaming some bodged Brexit on Labour might be a difficult trick, beyond these clowns anyway.

itll hardly take the tories to do it tbf, its sitting there ready for anyone to say it and then boom

Pretty hard for the Tories to dodge any responsibility this time round tho.

They are the fucking government after all.