I was talking about this at the pub and a friend of mine said how much she liked the ending! She didn't want the ending to be sad, apparently.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Sunday, 11 November 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link
I dont mind a houseful of happy ghosts! But it just felt like such a WtF after the rest of the show?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 11 November 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
same!
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 November 2018 02:14 (five years ago) link
I think I actually muttered something like "what is this, the end of a Scrubs episode!?"
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 12 November 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link
hee
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 12 November 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link
Lol yeah that’s exactly what it feels likeThis and Gerald’s game are the only Flanagan things I’ve seen and both have scenes that are so syrupy (in presentation as well as in conception) that you wonder if he’s taking the piss. It’s not just the ending here, the flashback of nell’s relationship with the sleep tech was like it too. In gg it’s just the ending, which comes from the book - I remember Flanagan saying in an interview “it’s not my job to fix Stephen King’s story” which uh check again cause I think you’ll find that is exactly your job. When I started watching this I found it pretty heartening that he had apparently changed his mind about unfaithful adaptations, as it might mean the dr sleep movie has a chance of actually being good, but based on this maybe he wouldn’t have come up with anything better for the last 15 minutes of gg
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 12 November 2018 07:09 (five years ago) link
Just to add a note of dissent, I saw what they were doing early on in ep 6 and thought it was impressive overall but the tradeoff with the one-take thing is that some of the performances became a little, ahem, ropy, esp in the big funeral home argument
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 12 November 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link
just finished this - everyone otm that huisman is terrible in this, compared to how great everyone else is, esp since the story sort of pivots around him.
the jump scare in the car when the sisters are on the way to the house scared the shit out of me!!! the most literal jump scare i've ever seen. would've been great in a movie theater.
one question: did anyone else notice the girl watching young hugh as he's breaking through the bricks to find the skeleton? when he's in profile, she's in the background, peering around the wall, and has long white hair. i read a vulture recap of that ep and the writer somehow noticed hugh's shadow was "off" (i didn't notice this) but didn't see the girl??
― just1n3, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
https://imgur.com/vHcUzaK
― just1n3, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:13 (five years ago) link
https://imgur.com/hy0QWUK
― just1n3, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link
yeah there's about a million of those background ghosts
https://screenrant.com/haunting-hill-house-hidden-ghosts-secrets-background
― Number None, Sunday, 18 November 2018 22:41 (five years ago) link
lol i didn't notice any of those other ones
― just1n3, Sunday, 18 November 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
Wanted: extras to dress in black, hang around in the background of scenes, and change position between takes
― calstars, Sunday, 18 November 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link
This is the scariest ghost in the series imo:
http://ugc-01.cafemomstatic.com/gen/constrain/750/2000/70/2017/08/25/11/4b/q5/povqa1em4g.jpg
― My mother set great store by that microwave oven! (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 November 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link
One thing about this is the way that even though it's not really an adaptation, just a riff on the concept/approach, it's haunted by the novel in interesting ways - so many things here come directly from the book but are used in completely different contexts: the lions, people being walled up, the cup of stars, there are tons. In the book none of those things have actual plot weight, they're things dreamed up by the dreamy protagonists, but there's a kind of thrill in seeing them crop up as tangible details (even though it's really just Easter egg literalism). And of course there are a shitload of direct quotes from the novel - this is why people are correct to complain about the last line being changed btw, it's completely absurd to say 'I don't know why you're comparing the two' when we're literally talking about several lines of text being lifted directly from the novel and being changed from something very good to something very bad
― coetzee.cx (wins), Monday, 19 November 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
I’m kind of astonished at just how bad the final episode of this was. Just...wow. Megalodon-sized shark jumping.
― latebloomer, Friday, 23 November 2018 09:44 (five years ago) link
I haven’t felt this much hate towards a piece of entertainment in years
― latebloomer, Friday, 23 November 2018 10:00 (five years ago) link
Finally finished this, thank Christ. It felt interminable beyond the admittedly excellent episodes 5&6 and the ending - the smuggling in of a glowing afterlife, into something that was emphatically other - was cheap. You can almost imagine Jackson as one of the hidden ghosts, screaming silently into the blackness: no redemption! And this format does encourage idea that endless talking somehow stands for 'writing'. So much talking!
All that said the casting was good (even Huismans didn't offend me) and I thought the kids were particularly great.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Monday, 26 November 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link
Everybody has a dream. And, like Hill House, we must all follow our dream wherever it takes us.Some unpleasant people became part of Hill House's dream. But it cannot be blamed for that. Hill House was a success, in the end, wasn't it?
― Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link
I actually love the idea that the last 15 mins is told from the House's perspective, but I don't think that reading is seriously supported in any way
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 26 November 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
Another reason I think Jackson would shriek is that, after everything, it was (partly) about a classic hysteric: the devouring mother.
― Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Monday, 26 November 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
Loved the statue head turn during the storm episode and I was hoping for more statue backstory.
― nashwan, Friday, 18 January 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
apparently season 2 is about the statue's troubled childhood
― Number None, Friday, 18 January 2019 21:34 (five years ago) link
It's all one long take.
― Good cop, Babcock (Chinaski), Friday, 18 January 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
Would watch a horror film in one take like Russian Ark.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 18 January 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link
The ending was superb. It's about how keeping secrets affects the future. You can remain silent, thinking hiding sth will not affect your surrounding, but does influence your life. It was great.
― nathom, Friday, 18 January 2019 23:03 (five years ago) link
Dowd did you listen the Heavyweight episode where he tracks down the violinist who looked at the camera and “ruined” the single take in RA?
― just1n3, Friday, 18 January 2019 23:32 (five years ago) link
No! I'll need to track it down. I certainly didn't notice it when I watched it. I lent the DVD to a friend of mine who died and I don't know how to ask for it back...
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 18 January 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link
(from his widow, obv.)
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Friday, 18 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link
Or did you mean the first take? That makes more sense, sorry.
― Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Saturday, 19 January 2019 00:00 (five years ago) link
A new Haunting is coming. Can you guess where it takes place? Listen closely... pic.twitter.com/vqzrd3z4NZ— The Haunting of Hill House (@haunting) February 21, 2019
― Number None, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link
(it's an anthology show now)
― Number None, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link
2020! (emits eldritch howl)
― large bananas pregnant (ledge), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
that's cool. he has to finish Doctor Sleep first (and I need to finish reading it. hope the movie is more interesting than the book so far)
― akm, Friday, 22 February 2019 03:11 (five years ago) link
Anthology show probably the correct way to go.
― chap, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link
so apparently the new one will be landing around October probably. much of the same cast, based on a bunch of different Henry James stories with a bunch of different writers and directors. could be good!
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Sunday, 21 June 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
oooooh excitingHas anyone watched “Shirley” (it’s on Hulu)?Definitely pushes the boat out but i thought it was really good & weird & disorienting. Elizabeth Moss is fantastic.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/06/29/shirley-jacksons-son-talks-to-his-fictional-mom-elisabeth-moss
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link
I watched it last night, VegemiteGrrl. A disappointment: the sort of film that encourages a culture's most predictable conclusions about the nexus between a writer and her material.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 June 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeiY2W03Mc&
― Number None, Monday, 31 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
Looks cornier than Hill House.
― chap, Monday, 31 August 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
hmm
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Monday, 31 August 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link
I need to make sure when I sit down to watch this that I turn my analytical brain off and embrace the cornball tbh
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link
also I hope Victoria Pedretti's character in the new one gets to ice some fools or something, she needs payback for Hill House
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link
I fucking love Turn Of The Screw but have no idea how they'd flesh it out into a series!
I just finished Hill House last night and the ending was the worst, the worst, the worst, all the plot threads tied up so deliciously and wonderfully but the "this evil house.. is actually a sanctuary" was awwwwful.
Plot Twist: The ending was entirely the product of Steve's corny imagination, and the gag is that he's a spectacularly shitty writerPlot Twist: Olivia, who has always been Joanna Newsom, sings "I fell in love with a house wrapped in red roses and I roasted apples on the hearth and I had a robin" to the tune of "Monkey & Bear"The Dudleys response to the death of their daughter was WTFI only realized in the last episode that the dad was Elliott
― my god, it's full of bugles (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link
apparently they've got the rights to the entire Henry James...bibliography?...so basically it'll be the Henry James Cinematic Universe....Season
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link
Huh!
A friend has pointed out to me that the bulk of the clunky dialogue that suddenly takes over the last two episodes of Hill House was taken direct from the novel. Too bad!
This was a rare show that I avoided any possibility of any spoilering and it was worth it, though, every mystery-reveal was faultless
― my god, it's full of bugles (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link
That's Flanagan's main flaw as a writer: he loves his source materials too much. (This is a big problem with his faithful adaptations of deeply flawed Stephen King works.)
I just hope s2 can nearly match s1 for sheer, almost irresponsible, levels of emotional terrorism
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link
also delighted to scan the cast of the new series and see that there's no Huisman, the very obvious (and only) weak link in the cast of the first one
― unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
Oooooh casting the guy who played Luke as Peter Quint is inspired
In general I thought the MVPs on Hill House were the kids, young Steve aside (and he was good too!) they were fucking amazing.
― my god, it's full of bugles (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link