Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

i'm the professional entertainer who tells 100k disaffected young white guys to kill themselves and everyone around them in a country where disaffected young white guys definitely don't have easy access to doing that, and avail themselves of that access regularly. love to lol.
— random content man (@FredieDeBoerWar) November 7, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 8 November 2018 02:30 (forty-seven minutes ago) Permalink

Lol is that actually Freddie deBoer? Dude has no room to talk shit about anyone for dumbass online behavior

don't believe so

iirc he posted an apology on his blog for the shit he pulled and said he'd been in treatment for some time since, and I'm pretty sure there was no subsequent return to social media

Ah ok.

please tell us what the good jokes are!!

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.)

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wait has Frederick B been Freddie de Boer all along????

― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:45 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yo legit I thought this at one point and was extremely confused

Same

@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @cushbomb @willmenaker @virgiltexas @ByYourLogic Go off, king of kings. #election #Chapo, #GOAT, #HELLWORLD pic.twitter.com/DT61BU0Kbg

— wojtek arciszewski (@wojrants) November 7, 2018

surely someone has ratted them out to twitch by now

tommy vietor from pod save america has added to the dogpile.

pod save america, the podcast whose title makes no sense

also nerdstrom you just quoted a tweet from a bad irony poster

what always impressed me about UBL was his placid demeanor, the warmth in his eyes. truly the expressions of a man who is at peace with himself, and whose balls are thoroughly and regularly drained.

— random content man (@FredieDeBoerWar) September 12, 2018

but since pearl-clutching in a really pathetic way about this dumb podcast is your hobby continue i guess

really enjoying Trillbilly Workers' Party lately

they're really likeable, moreso than the chapo guys tbh

yeah it's an affability vs lols tradeoff, not unlike with Street Fight

for ppl who are into that side of things, the ChapoFYM crew are doing a 24-hour charity stream in support of Trans Lifeline starting in about half an hour

The latest Antifada ep gets pretty hardcore, talking to the guy who went undercover with a lot of alt-right groups and gets into why you need an actual positive political program to accompany any resistive movement

http://fans.fm/listen/4zw

I gotta say, the Dollop episode on John McCain -- which, yes, admittedly focuses on every shitty thing he ever did, at the expense of most other considerations -- not only taught me a few things I hadn't heard about or knew very little detail about, and convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship. (Complete with sketchy Manafort/Russia content!)

i've been saving that one for a special occasion

surprised dave managed to make it to the end of the episode without suffering a fatal rage embolism tbh

I worry about him sometimes tbh

convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship

I think a lot of national stage politicians are closer to Trump in this regard than most people realize, it's just that the personae they create aren't as overtly outlandish

John F Kennedy is a proto-Trump. Teddy Roosevelt is a proto-Trump. Pretty much everyone is a proto-Trump if it's about creating a persona and handling the media well.

yeah, but the overt xenophobia, misogyny and corruption make it a little more apt than the average imo

the only meaningful difference being that those qualities were hidden/cloaked by the persona rather than amplified by them

Which is kinda the thing that makes Trump Trump though.

No argument here

John F Kennedy is a proto-Trump. Teddy Roosevelt is a proto-Trump. Pretty much everyone is a proto-Trump if it's about creating a persona and handling the media well.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:04 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well and also extreme narcissism.

Jesse Ventura is the proto Trump, he's not a terrible guy and was an ok no governor but there are so many similarities to the phenomenon having lived through both

otm

I remember ppl really being excited to vote for him

Also Jesse's a huge narcissist and had the same relationship w/the press

issuing press passes with "media jackals" on it

https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/ventura-slams-media-unflattering-press-passes

god the whole thing was so nuts, i forgot about his son turning the governor's mansion into a party house

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/content/impostor-lived-governors-mansion

wait now i'm imagining trump having a post-presidency MMA Ref career

the fuckin inaugural ball with warren zevon/jesse duet

https://youtu.be/G1SYrE96mpk?list=PL8E5023F8F7BECEBD&t=316

god that's bizarre

A key difference, as bad a governor as he was, Jesse was good on some issues (transit, gay rights, abortion, the war on drugs). When he was bad, he was terrible, and he shared T’s extreme sensitivity to any criticism.

Perot, though not an actual celeb, had the proto-Trump press sensitivity and sold himself as outsider-businessman who could come in and fix it all with business skills

yeah jesse was okay like i said but the combative stuff w/the press and being thin skinned was really similar

plus just the whole weird energy around his candidacy was similar

The Dollop having not so secretly become 50% a labor history podcast is probably Good but I can’t really stand to entertain myself with all that strike-breaking

It really is amazing to listen to early, carefree episodes where Dave seems practically apolitical then compare it to like, the Wells Fargo episode

the dollop is secretly the longform story of dave’s radicalisation

my gf likes to listen to podcasts while going to sleep and a lot of the dollop ones have really enervated me while in a delicate hypnagogic state

that said, the Boston Corbett episode contains maybe the single funniest moment of any podcast

the gay-panic in the navy episode remains my favourite, just batshit from start to finish

What name / # was that one? Doesn't ring a bell.

#56, the Newport sex scandal

if you haven’t heard it you’re in for a treat

I think Pareene mentioned that Reagan was just Trump who could actually stay on script and listen to his handlers

schwarzenegger was a weirdly decent California gov

I gotta say, the Dollop episode on John McCain -- which, yes, admittedly focuses on every shitty thing he ever did, at the expense of most other considerations -- not only taught me a few things I hadn't heard about or knew very little detail about, and convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship. (Complete with sketchy Manafort/Russia content!)

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:30 (two days ago) Permalink

I don't love the hosts' style, but this was good. I think you can kind of make "the case against" any national politician with a long enough career, and I had previously kind of thought of John McCain that way, like, yeah he's a republican and he sucks more than people think, but he probably tries to do the right thing when he can even though his conception is flawed. After listening to this however I think he's just a shitty human being who only did the "right" thing ever for self-serving reasons. I had associated him with campaign finance reform, but now I'm thinking that was probably just part of his media strategy to cover up for how thoroughly corrupt he was.

They started out as a straightforward comedy show and have only "radicalized" gradually. The style and content are sometimes an odd fit.