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all the bonds except the admittedly slightly weird water bond passed

5 (extend limits on property tax) and 6 (remove gas tax and let the state fall apart) failed :-(

rent control wasn't even close though :-(

the charter guy is winning superintendent of public instruction but it's close and has not been called yet

kounalakis won lieutenant gov. did anyone have a strong opinion about that one? neither seems like particularly promising future governers.

looks like la county is about to vote out the sheriff for the first time in 100+ years. the replacement has the support of the LASD rank and file which is huge fucking red flag, but he ran on a "get ICE out of LA jails" platform (LASD runs the county jails).

la city public bank failed :-(

the NRA-sponsored judge lost in LA county :-)

proposition C passed though and by a lot1

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)

Surely you meant to smile on 5 and 6 losing.

nickn, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:01 (seven years ago)

yeah idgi re: 6

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)

Looks like the one District I was focusing on (10 - Harder vs. Denham) might still be too close to call, last time I checked the results were w/in 1,000 votes.

Looks like Rohrabacher is out though, which is awesome

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:03 (seven years ago)

yeah i got confused about smileys.

5 (extend limits on property tax) and 6 (remove gas tax and let the state fall apart) failed :-)

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)

can't believe Nunes is still gonna be around

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

I can't believe Duncan Hunter is still going to be around

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)

I read something about C that it might be taken to court because it's a tax prop that didn't get the required two-thirds majority?

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:58 (seven years ago)

sounds inevitable

ΞŸα½–Ο„ΞΉΟ‚, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)

I assume that's another thing we can thank Prop 13 for.

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 20:00 (seven years ago)

wait hunter won? jfc

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:11 (seven years ago)

What's the matter with San Diego?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/7/18066314/house-midterms-results-duncan-hunter-winner

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:12 (seven years ago)

Camp Pendleton

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:25 (seven years ago)

Nah, that's NE county SD exurbs, pretty red to begin with (2R:1D) & they are certainly not going to vote for a guy who is half-Palestine/half-Mexican.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:31 (seven years ago)

San Diego is pretty deep blue, but not out there

https://hunter.house.gov/our-district

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 21:48 (seven years ago)

Santee!

sarahell, Wednesday, 7 November 2018 23:04 (seven years ago)

Can't believe prop 11 passed, 'Let's all get together and screw private ambulance workers!'

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

fajita seas, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:22 (seven years ago)

the sooner we can never adjust our microwave clocks again the better

del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:27 (seven years ago)

also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans

del griffith, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:29 (seven years ago)

But otherwise not too bad here in CA.

― fajita seas, Wednesday, November 7, 2018 7:22 PM (yesterday)

well, except for the fact that people were more concerned about the living conditions of animals that will become food than human beings who are renters, which is quite shit

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:44 (seven years ago)

same in 2008! chickens 01, gay people 00

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)

And probably all the 2008 chickens are long eaten by now

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:52 (seven years ago)

The LA podcast today is a post mortem of the election and also the fact that one of our councilmen Jose huizar was raided by the FBI the morning after. De Leon is a future mayoral candidate and was state senator for the district that covers the council district. They’re speculating and repeating rumours that de Leon will run for this seat then mayor (he would walk both races, and in some ways LA council is a promotion from state senate).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)

lol xp

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)

Also they make the point that running a state ballot measure for rent control, rather than incremental and local changes where costa Hawkins and local circumstances allow it (which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north), was a major tactical error. (Largely made by noted LA crank and AHF syphilis invasion billboard guy Michael Weinstein).

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)

It’s a good podcast imo btw https://overcast.fm/+Mkf9-9PBU

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)

which is a few cities in socal, not sure about up north

I would be surprised if San Francisco didn't have the strongest tenant protections in the state. Berkeley has some, as do Oakland, and some smaller Bay Area cities.

sarahell, Friday, 9 November 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)

Right but the way Costa Hawkins work affects a city’s ability to vote to expand the rent control aspect of those protections in weird/complex ways. Prop 5 would have repealed costa Hawkins, but some city’s still have wiggle room. I’d be surprised if sf wasn’t already it it’s limits.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:03 (seven years ago)

Ps https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/11/05/gavin-newsom-the-next-head-of-the-california-resistance

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:05 (seven years ago)

Did anyone see yet if there’s a supermajority in both houses? The count was drifting left in the sense it might be but it wasn’t enough yet when I tried to figure out.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 01:09 (seven years ago)

Election Day may be over, but California has more than 4.5 million ballots left to count.

The uncounted ballots could push voter turnout to nearly 60 percent of those registered. Participation in a non-presidential election has not hit 60 percent in California since 1994, although it hit 59 percent in 2010.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article221392480.html

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2018 14:43 (seven years ago)

Did anyone see yet if there’s a supermajority in both houses?

Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:05 (seven years ago)

A supermajority would allow the Democrats to pass any legislation without GOP help. As I understand it they already have a supermajority in the Assembly. In the Senate they need 27 seats, and according to Politico: β€œit now appears Democratic Sen. Ricardo Lara is in good shape to become insurance commissioner, which would leave a vacancy for months in the upper house. And the race in District 12 between Democrat Anna Caballero and Republican Rob Poythress remains too close to know if Democrats will have 27 even if Lara departs.”

Dan S, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:23 (seven years ago)

Heard a politician refer to the legislature in Illinois now as a super-supermajority.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 November 2018 15:25 (seven years ago)

Does this matter a lot with a Democratic governor?

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, November 9, 2018 10:05 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes. certain kinds of legislation (mostly money-raising stuff, i think?) requires 2/3 majorities (in both houses?) to pass.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 16:10 (seven years ago)

ohhhhh, OK

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 November 2018 16:18 (seven years ago)

(mostly money-raising stuff, i think?)

Two-thirds is required for any tax-related stuff.

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

also Ammar Campa-Najjar still wouldn't have won if he'd become a horse and changed his name to Bill Stevens, so deep is the backcountry chaparral love for vaping veterans

― del griffith, Thursday, November 8, 2018 3:29 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wtf thats my name, dude. :o

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 19:14 (seven years ago)

How do you Angelenos like Garcetti?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0JNZhm3NNo

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

He didn't correct the "breakdancing" bit (he's popping), so I am already wary.

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:09 (seven years ago)

He sang the shit out of the national anthem at a roller derby event I went to when he was a city councilman but he kinda sucks. He’s ambitious as hell kinda like newsom.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:01 (seven years ago)

He’s also less of a crowd pleasing blank slate than newsom. He has (bad) opinions. He will get nowhere if he runs in 2020.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)

the mayor of LA hardly does anything. the city council has all the power. hes a glorified cheerleader. all he accomplished was bagging the olympics that nobody really wants and is gonna fuck up the city.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 November 2018 21:37 (seven years ago)

he was in training for the job at 18 and presumably before that but hey I for one like him

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 04:04 (seven years ago)

I look forward to voting for him when he runs for governor

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 04:07 (seven years ago)

insanely close race (0.1% lead) but the public school guy just pulled ahead of the charter school guy in SPI

#.SPI Update pic.twitter.com/7brkOKjOyF

— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) November 13, 2018

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 03:32 (seven years ago)

Oh hell yes! Go Tony!!

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 03:35 (seven years ago)

Feel like both of those guys have their merits but are both pretty flawed too...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 04:23 (seven years ago)

That's kinda like saying Obama and Hitler are both pretty flawed

sarahell, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 07:34 (seven years ago)

lol, you sound rational.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:21 (seven years ago)


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