one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

cheers for that, Jed.

(fwiw. i find with the NS that if you hit the X while the page is loadingit loads the article but you don't get the paywall)

Budget on a Monday is confusing tbh

Michael Moore wants to win the war against Trump
BY PAUL MASON

god bless that NS paywall tbf!

if I was in his shoes I wouldn't have made any effort with the Budget either

imagine if this one is based on his best case scenario

#PoliticsLive

Andrew Neil: So Liz. Austerity is over?

Liz Truss: Yes.

Andrew Neil: So why are there more Welfare Cuts to come?

Liz Truss: Er...Universal Credit?

— duncanpoundcake (@duncanpoundcake) October 29, 2018

provided Brexit doesn’t trigger an economic crisis is a hell of a proviso

If you want to look at the bad NS on safari, the reading view option bypasses the paywall.

To be fair to Hammond if I was in his shoes I wouldn't have made any effort with the Budget either given the whole thing could be redundant or voted down within a matter of weeks.

You’d think he’d at least have that drink he’s entitled to...

Brexit IS an economic crisis.

As someone who might actually benefit from that tax cut, fuck you Box-Sized Office Phil.

Looking forward to that tenner a month tbh

I know we are supposed to rise above all that lairy unpleasant stuff. But lool at Truss getting mauled by the brillo pad. Even when Keunssberg throws her a bone at the end when her appearance is mysteriously cut short, any signs of even the lowest levels of perception + coherence are long since gone. If someone asked her where she lives at this point, likely she would struggle with her answer.

what was that on?

bbc2 budget coverage from about 2h 13mins

thanks, c.

To the extent that this budget had a political focus it was on winning over people who are troubled by, but not directly affected by, deprivation, with the small spending increases announced across government largely targeted on eliminating visible signs of wear and tear on the public realm. Not least among these was potholes, a huge and noticeable consequence of the cuts to public spending for the vast majority of higher earners, who outside London largely commute and travel by car

So the above from the NS piece ties in to this thread:

This feels like Philip Hammond’s attempt at a pre-election Budget. Which makes me think we are going to have an election in 2019. #Budget2018

— Stewart Wood (@StewartWood) October 29, 2018

Justine Greening?

i think i heard the wrong budget yesterday, the editors of the Spectator and the Times have just been on Today and apparently it was a socialist bonanza

all public spending is socialist iirc

i for one support our neomarxist overlords

Razor insight Nelson talking bollox again. I like the one-off payments to schools best, a tacit admission that "we've fucked you over, but here's a few quid to keep you going till next month".

Hammond said it was "for those little extras" like staff and functional heating i guess

just so they won't be begging parents for A4 paper before an election is called.

i think i heard the wrong budget yesterday, the editors of the Spectator and the Times have just been on Today and apparently it was a socialist bonanza

It's a move straight out of the Gideon playbook, "giveaways" like this aren't aimed at winning over the votes of the poor and they barely factor into the calculation, they're aimed at middle-class voters who don't like to think about themselves as *not* caring about the poor.

It's probably a bit late in the game for Hammond to try that one but that's what "austerity is over" is really about. It's possible that enough incurious floating voters might switch back as a result but the Brexit stuff is so toxic to that voter pool that I doubt it'll make much difference.

hopefully it will backfire and ppl might get a bit irked that some lying twat said austerity was over, yet the Hooverville style clusters of people living in tents under pedestrian crossings are still there and getting bigger. Was just reading about a local authority "housing" a vulnerable young person with psychiatric problems in a tent.

https://infobeautiful4.s3.amazonaws.com/2017/07/Brexit-2.3-1276x2.png

Ireland should be an inch or two to the right there, just saying.

Oh no hang on I'm talking shite.

chart is kind of hypnotic (and takes a minute or two to orient yourself)

Was confusing Iceland with Ireland there.

"semi-hard Brexit - Turkey"

getting semi-hard in that erogenous Erdogan zone, because the trade deals are that bloody sexy!

whats going on at all there now

I've given Toynbee some stick over the years, but her withering and angry attack on Gideon on Newsnight was very well put and true.

“This man has done such harm and damage to this country… your treatment of the poorest people in this country has been despicable”

Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee makes her feelings about George Osborne clear @pollytoynbee | #newsnight | @EvanHD | @George_Osborne pic.twitter.com/aZJD6Buuyg

— BBC Newsnight (@BBCNewsnight) October 30, 2018

Spot on, that odious cunt should to be attacked at every turn for the rest of his horrible existence.

he's still trying to pull that 2015 lever that blames the Labour party for the 2008 financial clusterfuck, real deep thinking there. So after working hard to plunge millions of people into poverty and running the vilest anti benefit-scum propaganda campaign in the UK ever - at least he's a remain voter and trying to fashion himself as a centrist, is what seems to impress some ppl.

Ah now, he currently regrets his immigration targets - because they led to Brexit, not because of any actual humans.

few people have been gifted with a face more perfectly suited to their personality than that evil sneering cunt

you, an fbpe: https://youtu.be/4As0e4de-rI
me, an intellectual: https://youtu.be/qqM0Ube0oLs

*dries a tear that all those corgis are dead now*

Unexpected endorsement for Corbs (from TOWIE’s Gemma Collins):

Revealing she’s a fan of the divisive political figure, she added: “He’s not just for the rich getting rich. He wants to make everything equal.

“He’s got values on education, and he says every child should learn a musical instrument - that’s about giving children something to do, so they’re not hanging around on the streets.

“At his age now - I’m not saying he’s old, old - the fact that he’s out there riding a bicycle and he doesn’t have a car... a lot of people say they’ve got beliefs. But he actually backs what he says.”

She concluded: “Do you know why I love Jeremy? He wants to end hospital car parking charges.

“I’m not being funny, but someone’s died - a member of your family - and you’ve gotta put three quid in the meter?

“It’s just not the time. Your mum has a heart attack, yet you’ve got to rustle around in your bag for £5? It’s not the one.”

I mean, all things said and done, that’s not a bad summary of the policies.

she’s absolutely seen off dickie angell

YES

but not even the strangest endorsement of the day!

Bit of a Late Registration 😉

Thanks for the follow @kanyewest 👋 https://t.co/jfODJ8II1y

— Caroline Lucas (@CarolineLucas) October 31, 2018

is it worth replacing my EU passport (which officially expires early 2020) before next March? or will it not make any difference, practically?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqsqOfXXcAAcQ3r.jpg

I knew I was hearing echoes. Repeatedly telling the same big lie .. something something .. redacted godwin's law edit!

the times is arguably worse than the daily mail now

I'd say they've successfully filled the Dacre void, but they were just as hateful and appalling while he was still at the Mail.

RIP Arron Banks, heaven needed a Mr Toad

my missus just got that dreaded DWP letter saying they have viewed all her medical evidence and now the PIP decision will be made. This time she had help from a charity with her forms and we got a GP's letter telling them ATOS mofos that they aren't dragging someone with severe MS to some Kafkaesque "assessment building" and it worked, so fingers crossed for the next letter!

oh is he under arrest?