if Apple's smart they'll grab this up for their new service next year
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:37 (five years ago) link
wish npr or pbs or somesuch had the resources to step into this space, sigh.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
Well, guess I won't be signing up to Filmstruck after all :-( I like Mubi but really could do with an alternative.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
there's a "recently added" strip right at the top of the Kanopy mobile app, that scrolls and scrolls :)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
(and a recently added docos underneath The Criterion Collection)
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
For all but the very obsessive, the whole "this is why you should own a vast and expensive personal library of movies you'll probably only watch once or twice" line is just bonkers to me.
― ryan, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
For all but the very obsessive,
exactly
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
yeah the real thing to lament is the death of physical-media video stores (or even o.g. DVD-by-mail netflix) which were actually the right medium between owning-forever and never-seeing.didn't realize that abt the app, might have to install it just to spare myself the clicking around on the web.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
Kanopy is awesome, but I agree the interface sucks
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
not sure what the o.g. version of netflix was but the current dvd-by-mail selection is amazing!
― Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
ha i didn't even realize it still existed. i remember an article a couple years ago on how limited and unreliable it'd actually become since they weren't replacing lost/destroyed discs so tons of bog-standard stuff had quietly become not-actually-gettable. but i'm probably fogging up the details.
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
Netflix DVD-by-mail has more films available than Netflix streaming
think of the question as being "do you want to watch them once"
― Eight-Tenths Bigamy (sic), Friday, 26 October 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
Criterions have good resell value anyway
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
xp yes, if you're into classic cinema or world cinema, there's no comparison between netflix DVD and streaming services
― Dan S, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:00 (five years ago) link
I think it was after they did the “directed by Raoul Walsh” collection I thought how dies this exist? This is too good to be true
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
For the hundred bucks I'll save for not having a year of Filmstruck and its 1000-1200 options, I'll be able to buy 4-5 Criterion home releases (during half-off sales), or half of next month's Bergman box.
― WmC, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
losing disc-by-mail maybe the worst thing about moving to Canada tbrr
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
honestly, cost-proposition wise Netflix and Amazon Prime are still insane for what you get. but they'll never have everything, all the time, hence physical media worth buying and supporting for sure. also, the way history has been, whatever supplants Blu-ray will still publish less titles in the end, the way there were more DVDs than BR, more VHS than DVD..
― Nhex, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:22 (five years ago) link
lame, I was just thinking of signing up for this
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
Stupid:
Streaming is a scam that conditions consumers to forget the importance and necessity of ownership, to instead subscribe to the profit-maximizing whims of a megacorporation. Continued unabated, it will mutilate the history of film and music. Tech isn’t going to save us.— Scary Kaleb Horton (@kalebhorton) October 26, 2018
Streaming has stymied piracy better than any other digital model. The mechanism is in place to finally properly pay artists (even if they aren't doing it now) & more accurately track ears/eyeballs.
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
flappy is a BigTech sock
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
I doubt there will be a successor optical medium to Blu-ray that gets any kind of home market penetration, though considering the sorry state of America's crumbling infrastructure/broadband capacity maybe it'll wind up that we all just start buying movies on flash memory (NB this is way too expensive)
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
lol I don't even have Netflix! Not into streaming video because the quality is so shit (in my area at least - Comcast is the only option). But I have Apple Music and I love it, and still buy records.
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
i've grumbled at flappy before for Big Tech sanguinity but i believe their positions are sincerely-held and non-sock
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
fortunately everyone will be drownded before the Blurays degrade
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
I generally hate streaming services of all music/film/TV because they often can't provide what I actually want to watch/hear.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
lol wait i think i just got flappy mixed up with flopson again
"the importance and necessity of ownership" pretty sure there's a fugazi song about this
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
fortunately we have the NY liberries, Brad
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
anyway libraries are really important imo xp
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
i only buy important shit like Rossellini and Sternberg boxes
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
the importance and necessity of ownership
such weird icky ethical bullshit surrounding owning/collecting movies, something almost no one did before the 1980s.
― President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
Yeah theres flopson flappy and flopsy
― F# A# (∞), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
if they could've they would've
xp
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
flopson, flappy, and floppentail, surely
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:51 (five years ago) link
streaming is generally fine (individual companies maybe not of course) as long as you don't think of it as an archive--it's really just the new iteration of broadcast TV
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
a key difference though: it's not regulated nearly as much
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
so nothing good is ever on when you want it to be? i am not a fan of streaming because you have to purchase access to the service AND have reliable internet in order to use the service. even people in major metropolitan areas don't have access to reliable streaming. AND the catalog is never full of what i want to see so it's just like a crapshoot where all you get is crap...maybe.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
that's another reason I can't get on board (yet) - shit disappearing and cycling in and out = DUD
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
so you need three things -- electricity (fine, we all need this), high speed internet service (not everyone has this) and purchased access to the service providing the media. it relies on three levels of access and even then you have to like what they are serving up. which...when it comes to netflix, no.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
i try to avoid owning movies (and books), i have enough
i borrow
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
xpyes very good points about worse access than broadcast, I was thinking more just in terms of quality and the arbitrariness of what's discoverable
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
my students look startled whenever I slip out that I still get Netflix DVDs.
They're doing a project requiring an analysis of M and four other good films made in subsequent decades (most recent: BPM). I sent them to Kanopy because, as I wrote earlier, it's free through the uni library, but I almost listed Filmstruck as an option. With the email volume I get, it was a rare smart move on my part.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
the importance and necessity of ownership would make more sense in the context of iTunes purchased movies disappearing when rights change
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
everytime the viewing medium changes, we lose more films.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
i love explaining to students why we are watching a DVD instead of streaming. in addition to the unreliable internet service at my school, usually their favorite reason for doing it is that no one can see you watching a DVD -- like when we watched The Murder of Fred Hampton. they could see the value of privacy.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 October 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
I've heard great things about Kanopy, don't know about their lousy interface but seems like the best option now.
― flappy bird, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
re:disappearing titles. reminds me a bit of the ebook publishers I deal at work. Even though it's not my money it appalls me that they sell these expensive electronic titles and then drop them from their platform without notice, and you have to figure it out yourself. And then when you complain you just get some tech speak about purging content to upgrade for a better user experience!
― President Keyes, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
my library's Kanopy catalogue is easily fewer than 100 items, and probably 90% are contemporary documentaries
LL: that's genuinely good to hear that your students care about data privacy
― rob, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
I really wish people understood this, it drives me crazy how cavalier (or just ignorant) people are about it
― Οὖτις, Friday, 26 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link