US Politics, October 2018: next week will be even longer

There’s many reasons why the Warren thing is dumb, but correct me if I’m wrong, Warren was calling out Trump and not trying to join a Tribe.

The point being made is that identifying as Native American is done within the context of the principles and guidance of the Tribes' consensus, and not by counting DNA nucleotides; implying that the DNA test proves her Native identity seeks to bypass the preferences of the Native Americans who've made their criteria clear.

Did you watch the video she posted?

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fuck you

sorry for getting upset, just don't see Palin and Thatcher as representative of women in politics in 2018, and do think that women politicians in the US on the whole are less likely to be racists, bigots and warmongers (there are exceptions obviously)

so I guess I do think women-in-the-abstract will save us

Uh, yeah, otm? Seems pretty likely.

Also, stop talking about instincts.

Was Warren's Pocahontas appellation purely from Trump or did he pick that up from somewhere. Seems like a particularly dumb transposition but then again I can't think of what other iconic fictional Native American names could have been substituted. I guess at least it wasn't Minne-ha-ha.

Lie-a-watha was bandied a bit.

sorry for getting upset, just don't see Palin and Thatcher as representative of women in politics in 2018, and do think that women politicians in the US on the whole are less likely to be racists, bigots and warmongers (there are exceptions obviously)

― Dan S, Tuesday, 16 October 2018 05:48 (five hours ago) Permalink

gotta play the averages 🎲

Was Warren's Pocahontas appellation purely from Trump or did he pick that up from somewhere.

Some right-wing blog asshole called her "Fauxcahontas" when the whole thing first emerged, and Trump - being way too stupid to understand that - called her "Pocahontas" and his knuckle-walking death cult hooted joyfully when he did it, so he's kept pressing his personal pleasure-button ever since.

no one fucking knows what will work anyway

the opposite of what Hillary Clinton did, mostly.

When I meet someone new, I try to look past what makes them a singular being and straight into their statistically, sociologically determined soul.

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I agree that what Warren did was dumb but I'm not gonna pretend anyone's gonna remember this in two weeks, much less 2020

she's def running for president now. the video associated with this was so slick

my only concern is that if sanders also runs in the primary their supporters will cancel each other out and we'll get a centrist. i hope bernie doesn't run if warren is.

alfred will appreciate this s t r a t e g y

"another dumb old white dude"-- seriously? this is such a tired schtick.

dumb old white dudes rule the world

tyranny of the worst minority tbh

caucasians rule everything around me, c.r.e.a.m get the money, dolla dolla bill y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Her2M_zZDEI

I know it's not the best thing for, like, a healthy democracy, but part of me can't help wishing we could just run our finest insult comic against Trump. I mean, he's already been roasted at least twice (on Comedy Central and the Correspondents' Dinner) and didn't appear to handle it well either time. What I'm saying is, Jeff Ross 2020. Or Lisa Lampanelli or Sarah Silverman or Anthony Jeselnik. I'm not picky.

hey dems, want to "triumph" in 2020? well have i got a candidate for you...

Yeah, one of the most frustrating aspects of combating Trump is that the one thing he absolutely cannot take, his one demonstrable Achilles heel, is the bullying he dishes out, but dishing it out basically turns you into him. Which is the last thing I'd ever wish on anyone.

"I agree that what Warren did was dumb but I'm not gonna pretend anyone's gonna remember this in two weeks, much less 2020"

then you must not follow or know any Native activists, who are going to keep grinding this into the ground, as they have even prior to this DNA thing. Now, maybe Native activists have no actual sway or pull on electoral politics; but it depresses me to think of two years of relentless anti-Warren stuff coming from the Native left.

You think they’ll push this when she is running against a guy who has made racism central to his political identity?

maura otm. all those fucking dumb, old white guys.

god, trump is one messy bitch.

yea I don't know why Native activists would focus on a relatively small transgression by Warren instead of Trump doing Native American war cries at his rallies

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump starts echoing the talking points of Native activists in lambasting Warren. Incoherent, you say? Inconsistent with his overt racism? An almost maddening demonstration of cognitive dissonance? Yeah. Exactly.

oh he already started in his tweets. thus him being a messy bitch.

Yeah, one of the most frustrating aspects of combating Trump is that the one thing he absolutely cannot take, his one demonstrable Achilles heel, is the bullying he dishes out, but dishing it out basically turns you into him. Which is the last thing I'd ever wish on anyone.

it really is maddening especially given the media's complicity in all this, it's just broadly accepted that Trump & the entire GOP are bigots and bullies who lie about literally everything but whenever Maxine Waters suggests that maybe Huckabee Sanders doesn't deserve to be able to eat in peace CNN spends an entire day clutching their pearls

Pocahontas (the bad version), sometimes referred to as Elizabeth Warren, is getting slammed. She took a bogus DNA test and it showed that she may be 1/1024, far less than the average American. Now Cherokee Nation denies her, “DNA test is useless.” Even they don’t want her. Phony!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 16, 2018

lmao @ "The bad version"

anyway, I firmly believe it doesn't really matter who the candidate is. You either support Trumpism or not. It's up to people to vote in overwhelming numbers blah blah and not have some shifty 3rd party trying to muck it up again.

Also, the IRS needs to claw back all the money that the Trump family failed to pay in taxes over the years. this cannot be said enough.

played right into those tiny hands, good job

OMG, I hadn't even seen that tweet. Sad fuckin' lol.

I'm a little afraid that I'm that good at reading his lizard brain.

No, you just know how babies react to shit.

More like how a knee reacts to one of those little hammers.

it's almost like native activists expect or want better from the left or something

Cool point missing, bruh.

My recommendation to dem candidates going forward is, rather than respond or make any direct reference to Trump, to simply let the Toad pins on their lapels do the talking.

pocahontas (the animated version)

"Even they don’t want her."

yeah that "thank you cherokee nation" thing made my blood boil.

Native activists should hold the left up to a higher standard, but I just don't think akm is right when he writes it depresses me to think of two years of relentless anti-Warren stuff coming from the Native left.

calling it now: Trump wins 2020

fuck this place forever and I only hope all the old whites live to see and suffer through the hell they’ve set into motion.

it's quite possible, but don't give up yet

tell people what you're going to do for them instead of going with "Trump you're a con man" which everyone has made their mind up about already