Democratic (Party) Direction

Ding ding ding

Poor Bill was powerless, how could he resist an intern bj?!? How could he not execute that mentally deficient man on death row? How could he not [insert garbage triangulating shit gabbneb would "explain" for us here]

elsewhere in Clintonism

Two of the biggest think tanks in Democratic politics, the centrist Third Way and the more liberal Center for American Progress, have come together to tell Democrats to pipe down about immigration, because bringing the Trump administration’s unbearable cruelty to light might lose them a couple of votes that were surely leaning towards them otherwise.

https://splinternews.com/democrats-told-to-avoid-talking-about-immigration-whic-1829750912

Bill Clinton did worse things than his Lewinsky affair, which was bad enough.

Probably yeah, but he admitted to the Lewinsky affair, it was while in office, and he should have stepped down because of it.

I opened this thread and started reading it thinking it said the posts were from 12 hours ago. I made it 30 posts in before I saw that it said 12 years ago. Not much has changed. Stop talking about Hillary. Christ.

but her emails

but his rapes

I mean, if she specifically comes out with a new statement excusing him, it's going to be talked about. You can't have it both ways, if she is making public statements people are going to talk about them.

A lot easier not to talk about the Clinton's when they don't release boneheaded statements weeks before an election tbf xps

yes, get them -- no, HER -- to STFU

but yes, both over the cliff

tell cbs to stop booking her too

if we’re going to go after all culpable parties here

why is it never the fault of the interviewers or producers

"why did you give me this hammer, now I've gone and hit myself in the head"

i’m not defending hrc morbs. i’m saying that even fluffy sunday morning magazine shows should focus on the future.

the pursuit of eyeballs is an inherently conservative thing and unfortunately tv is all about that as is online media.... which is why the usual suspects are constantly trotted out

their hits are almost always retro

Stop talking about Hillary.

Unlike Dubya, Bill and Hillary will never stop trying to be seen as politically relevant and will always step into whatever spotlight is offered to them. Even Obama has kept a fairly low profile compared to Hillary, who's toured to flog her book since the election. I conclude she very much wants us to talk about her. But, you're right, we shouldn't.

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

Christ. It literally is so easy to pay her only a roll of the eyes.

there's even an emoji for it

if you insist on posting about it

I don't emoji.

good policy probably

okay fine. only they are culpable. you’re all right. the way media relies on the same old names to bring in eyeballs certainly isn’t a problem at all.

― maura, Monday, October 15, 2018 11:34 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, that's a problem in the entirety of politics, but it's kind of a weird deflection to make when someone intentionally and prominently defends severely problematic behavior in said media.

Hillary and Bill decide whether or not to give interviews and what to give interviews about. I guarantee you they have a great deal of control over the subject matter, and they are grown ups who know how to say "I don't have a comment on that" even if surprised. She wanted to put that message out.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), 15. oktober 2018 18:33 (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Lol, no

I'm going to give her the credit that at this point in her public life, if she says something in an interview, it's because she intends it to be heard.

she's successfully avoided a ton of subjects for 20+ years

The interview is about the 'pink wave', and she is promoting a new afterword about sexism to her book 'What Happened'. Anyone think she 'wanted' to talk about Bill?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pink-wave-2018-midterm-elections-hillary-rodham-clinton-jahana-hayes-kimberlin-brown-pelzer/

as with what they think, i don't care what they want

when you're dead, you should lie down

Fred, don't be fucking naive. A network will take a Hillary interview on her terms. She could easily make it a condition that she's not answering questions about Bill. These things are highly stage managed.

she is promoting a new afterword about sexism to her book 'What Happened'. Anyone think she 'wanted' to talk about Bill?

― Frederik B, Monday, October 15, 2018 6:05 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you're right though even if this thing wasn't stage managed to the nth degree how could she ever have anticipated and prepared a response to a question related to the topic of what she's promoting

Bernie Sanders is in Milwaukee today campaigning for Tony Evers and Tammy Baldwin. I don't think there are wings of the party in the Midwest anymore; it feels like all Democrats are just out there saying "if we make this election about healthcare healthcare healthcare and education education education we win" and the furious backpedaling by GOP candidates here (Scott Walker now insisting he too supports going to back to the old K-12 funding formula, and he too wants to protect people with pre-existing conditions) suggests that the election will indeed be fought on this Democrat-friendly ground. (Though of course Walker can still win if enough people can get themselves to believe his latest insistences.)

The ads run by the democrat running to unseat my republican rep here in Michigan are like 90% health care related, as are the dozen mailers I get every week. She's stated that her mother getting cancer in 2009 and going through a ton of bullshit and almost going bankrupt was what caused her to get into politics in the first place.

Every poll I've seen suggests that -- at long last -- Dems no longer feel defensive about health care.

This is probably what the Cherokees were afraid of https://t.co/5EHb8U2PWA

— Chad Vi(gore)ous (@PrettyBadLefty) October 16, 2018

wait, does that mean Trump would have to think up a racist native american slur for Huckleberry

no Alfred, now they have immigration to be defensive about

but his rapes

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, October 15, 2018 9:10 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

gross fuckin way of putting this imo

so nice of the Senate Minority Leader to do everything he possibly can to confirm more and more conservative circuit court judges

hillary and bill are going on a tour, this is the context in which she chose to defend bill again.

their tour stop in my city features floor seats for > $800 canadian

they're awful people and should go away forever

if anyone can spare $80, these 8 statehouse races seem like a good place to spend it

https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2018/10/16/data-for-politics-29-give-smart

just do it

https://www.harris.senate.gov/news/press-releases/harris-proposes-bold-relief-for-families-amid-rising-costs-of-living

fucking targeted tax credits

lmao come back next week with a new one KH

like what the hell is even a tax credit, send people a check

just cut every american a check for $6000 and take it from Jeff Bezos' dryer lint