one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

battle of the buoyant

lol

"political considerations"

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexitinc/james-cusick-adam-ramsay/met-police-stall-brexit-campaign-investigations-claiming-polit

The problem with attributing even bad ideas to Johnson is that this too is a bridge too far generous.

it took me a while to realise that the Tommy Robinson song has the same tune as Spot The Looney (Tom D and bizarro may be the only people who know what i'm talking about)

No, English football fans sang that song too - it being a perfect distillation of 70s culture, marrying the tune of Chicory Tip's "Son of My Father" to a Monty Python sketch.

ahhhh!

the Son of the Father connection had escaped me until now!

I can't believe I'm seeing a front page on The Times reporting on charities getting gagged from criticising our most charming DWP minister on UC. That's normally a disabled/benefits twitter staple. S Bush otm on how much worse UC is than Poll Tax on it's victims, and how weaker the Tory party is in this clusterfuck that looks like finally threatening to become a "national scandal". Perhaps this is an extension of "anyone but Corbyn" and it's way too fucking late for lots of people.

but didn't the poll tax affected people (superficially) more indiscriminately than this UC scandal still attacks specific groups that can be more effectively othered as leechers or drains on society?

son of my father factoid: written by giorgio moroder

thom yorke in we're not prog suspiria, red cherry goblinz

UC is trying to other about 8m ppl including the entire working poor population, a very ambitious project but it was always doomed to failure in our fucking so cushy multi-island garrison of happy supply and demand democracy!

i can't even remember the specifics of Poll Tox tbh. Was poor as fuck at the time, didn't pay it, ignored the court summons, nothing happened. it might have been the drugs that saved me.

xp own post

Confidence and supply - I meant!

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/green-party-urges-activists-try-15268053

Green Party targets BNP and UKIP voters.

well they're not targeting them by adopting racist or nationalist policies afaict

That's true but there's no way it can end well.

pragmatism is never caring why people vote for you

The tactic appears to be "let them go to the polling station and hope they cross our box at random instead of anyone else's".

is that bad? i think it's ethically bad, but our electoral system's connection to ethics is pretty weak

not caring why people vote for you seems to have done well for most governments in living memory

'Enemy of my enemy' is a very suspect political strategy imo.

it's for fuckwits, it's also the standard MO for e.g. the Lib Dems

I mean it's better than having people vote for a racist party I suppose so it's a net positive. I doubt it had any serious impact on anything at all, even compared to, say, putting 'Controls On Immigration' on a mug and sending them out to all your jaunty supporters.

Surprised to say the least that there was no UKIP candidate given the location.

this is another example of why politics is terrible, whatever the lines of communication and sympathy might be between the Greens and the Labour party as national movements, when it gets down to the trenches almost every wannabe local/national politician is in full kill or be killed mode

This is as dumb as it gets.

tbh i don't care for any party that doesn't tell it's candidates "if you meet a BNP supporter on the doorstep, tell them to kill themselves"

TBH it feels like a headline written to stir enough half-hearted outrage to fly on social media but I'm pretty sure that every party including Labour has guidelines on how to deal with vocal BNP and UKIP supporters on the doorstep. Why wouldn't they?

I'm sure they all do. But 'send them to the booths not telling them there isn't a UKIP candidate and they MIGHT JUST MIGHT vote for us: score!" is so lame.

In short: politics.

From what I can tell the Greens were the only party on the ballot that weren't Labour, the Tories or LibDems but tbh if 'let them go to the ballot box and hope for the best' was really their approach then it's more likely to have benefited the Tories than anyone else.

a headline written to stir enough half-hearted outrage to fly on social media

As good a summary of what passes for politics today as I've read in years.

Iannucci wants young people to use their precious votes and often uses his platform as an edgy comedy writer to try and persuade them, even if it is a vote for the Hep C party.

it's one of my favourite stories, all that's needed to save the world is for more people to turn up and vote for the shower of breadhead nudniks on offer to them

LOL Green Party, what a bunch of geniuses.

the green party understand protest voting

Murder a Tory voter today, Victory tomorrow!

Well, Hitler was a vegetarian after all.

green... with envy at other parties' success at stoking the politics of resentment!

Subscribe to my YouTube channel where I explain my plan to offer two or more candidates from different parties on the same ballot entry and if this approach gets enough votes for multiple constituencies each party gets an equal allocation of MPs from it subject to a coin toss on any remainder. That oughta hold those niche SOBs.

wow y'all got wound up by the green party

More amused than wound up, in my case.

when labour gets taken over by centrists you'll all come home tbh

many many xps

UC is going to hit people tories actually (strictly electorally) give a shit about - eg people in shaky self-employment in marginal constituencies. They might be on Tax Credits now and just starting to realise that they are going to be forced to move to UC within the next couple of years, and get significantly less money. They do not think they are currently on a benefit; many of them were intended as the audience, rather than the target, for the othering of 'scroungers'. This - rather than say basic humanity - will probably force a major change to UC.

I guess McVey has figured this out and is positioning herself for the coming shitstorm.

(xp) It's not my home.

xp

woof otm

It's probably part Iannucci's fault that UC is still impoverishing ppl, cos all those wankers he persuaded to vote x-ed the Tories in tight marginals in '15 + '17.

When I think of Greens I think of ex-LSE grads who are in shit rock bands, and have some worldview like we are all Richard Scarry characters, and live in windmills. And have future tech lighting that is powered by smugness.

they have a strong historical connection with the eugenics movement as well.