one out all out: a brexit from the modern world and every one of its problems please (we're all gonna die lol)

Power is concentrated on too few a hands, and they aren't made accountable either.

Yeah, the issue is how to make these people more accountable, more quickly. It's unglamorous stuff, I guess, but goes back all the way to what I most wanted from Corbyn when he won the leadership - reform the party structures, get the levers of power into the hands of the people.

Obv ultimately it's not just the structures of the Labour party that need to change, but one step at a time.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/10/nationalising-britain-water-industry-environment?CMP=share_btn_fb

another member with interesting priorities

Well-documented ties to the water industry as well.

i was going thru the Register of Members' Interests on that assumption and could find anything but it's fucking transparent, excuse the pun.

the only fucking liquidity she's concerned about certainly isn't water quality related.

Boris now claiming that a Britain with close ties to the EU would be a "colony". But I thought colonialism was meant to be a good thing?

only if you're the colonists, come on

The British are not an inferior race.

I read a good letter by an engineer the other day that was trashing his bridge to the North Ireland colony idea. The Irish Sea is a 1000 feet deep at points and still full of dangerous ww2 munitions so it would be a hugely expensive and nigh on impossible project. Not that you ever take anything that cunt says seriously.

I'm thinking Scotland does not need something that makes it easier for lunatics from Ulster to get to Ibrox Park or sundry Orange Walks.

aye, marching season would be a mare!

Marching across Boris' bridge.

don't be so hasty, you're talking about something that raises the possibility of Orangemen being swept into the North Atlantic en masse

battle of the buoyant

lol

"political considerations"

https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexitinc/james-cusick-adam-ramsay/met-police-stall-brexit-campaign-investigations-claiming-polit

The problem with attributing even bad ideas to Johnson is that this too is a bridge too far generous.

it took me a while to realise that the Tommy Robinson song has the same tune as Spot The Looney (Tom D and bizarro may be the only people who know what i'm talking about)

No, English football fans sang that song too - it being a perfect distillation of 70s culture, marrying the tune of Chicory Tip's "Son of My Father" to a Monty Python sketch.

ahhhh!

the Son of the Father connection had escaped me until now!

I can't believe I'm seeing a front page on The Times reporting on charities getting gagged from criticising our most charming DWP minister on UC. That's normally a disabled/benefits twitter staple. S Bush otm on how much worse UC is than Poll Tax on it's victims, and how weaker the Tory party is in this clusterfuck that looks like finally threatening to become a "national scandal". Perhaps this is an extension of "anyone but Corbyn" and it's way too fucking late for lots of people.

but didn't the poll tax affected people (superficially) more indiscriminately than this UC scandal still attacks specific groups that can be more effectively othered as leechers or drains on society?

son of my father factoid: written by giorgio moroder

thom yorke in we're not prog suspiria, red cherry goblinz

UC is trying to other about 8m ppl including the entire working poor population, a very ambitious project but it was always doomed to failure in our fucking so cushy multi-island garrison of happy supply and demand democracy!

i can't even remember the specifics of Poll Tox tbh. Was poor as fuck at the time, didn't pay it, ignored the court summons, nothing happened. it might have been the drugs that saved me.

xp own post

Confidence and supply - I meant!

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/green-party-urges-activists-try-15268053

Green Party targets BNP and UKIP voters.

well they're not targeting them by adopting racist or nationalist policies afaict

That's true but there's no way it can end well.

pragmatism is never caring why people vote for you

The tactic appears to be "let them go to the polling station and hope they cross our box at random instead of anyone else's".

is that bad? i think it's ethically bad, but our electoral system's connection to ethics is pretty weak

not caring why people vote for you seems to have done well for most governments in living memory

'Enemy of my enemy' is a very suspect political strategy imo.

it's for fuckwits, it's also the standard MO for e.g. the Lib Dems

I mean it's better than having people vote for a racist party I suppose so it's a net positive. I doubt it had any serious impact on anything at all, even compared to, say, putting 'Controls On Immigration' on a mug and sending them out to all your jaunty supporters.

Surprised to say the least that there was no UKIP candidate given the location.

this is another example of why politics is terrible, whatever the lines of communication and sympathy might be between the Greens and the Labour party as national movements, when it gets down to the trenches almost every wannabe local/national politician is in full kill or be killed mode

This is as dumb as it gets.

tbh i don't care for any party that doesn't tell it's candidates "if you meet a BNP supporter on the doorstep, tell them to kill themselves"

TBH it feels like a headline written to stir enough half-hearted outrage to fly on social media but I'm pretty sure that every party including Labour has guidelines on how to deal with vocal BNP and UKIP supporters on the doorstep. Why wouldn't they?

I'm sure they all do. But 'send them to the booths not telling them there isn't a UKIP candidate and they MIGHT JUST MIGHT vote for us: score!" is so lame.

In short: politics.

From what I can tell the Greens were the only party on the ballot that weren't Labour, the Tories or LibDems but tbh if 'let them go to the ballot box and hope for the best' was really their approach then it's more likely to have benefited the Tories than anyone else.

a headline written to stir enough half-hearted outrage to fly on social media

As good a summary of what passes for politics today as I've read in years.

Iannucci wants young people to use their precious votes and often uses his platform as an edgy comedy writer to try and persuade them, even if it is a vote for the Hep C party.

it's one of my favourite stories, all that's needed to save the world is for more people to turn up and vote for the shower of breadhead nudniks on offer to them