2020 Democratic presidential primary

Bannon is out there saying a bunch of horseshit i assume as he is a living sack of horseshit

really? seems like a fine chap

i just think it is impossible to derive any useful information from anything he "says" aka anything that sputters fartfully from his infinitely joweled face

In another half a year, how this is shaping will become much plainer. Speculating very hard when we still have the midterms in front of us seems like playing a board game with lots of the pieces missing.

Really hope this fucker formally drops out in the near future

BREAKING: Former VP @joebiden will present this year’s #LibertyMedal award to former President George W. Bush and former First Lady @laurawbush for their commitment to veterans.

The ceremony will take place on #VeteransDay, November 11, in #Philadelphia: https://t.co/jnl1ouWrmk pic.twitter.com/KdcYhDHy31

— National Constitution Center (@ConstitutionCtr) October 10, 2018

gross

I would hope Biden would be disqualified in this day and age just based on the Anita Hill episode alone

W loves vets, he made so many of them

I would hope Biden would be disqualified in this day and age just based on the Anita Hill episode alone

― Οὖτις, 10. oktober 2018 18:10 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah, after Kavanaugh I don't think he has a chance. Perhaps the Bush thing is a sign that he knows he doesn't have a chance, and has stopped preparing and just does the shitty stuff he wants to do.

No Biden no Bloomberg no old fucking white men

Julian Castro sez he's "likely" to run

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/julian-castro-2020-president-run-738584/

No Biden no Bloomberg no old fucking white men

IT'S 1977!

Castro sez he's "likely" to run

many are called, but few are chosen

gotta dig out my JULIAN CASTRO FOR MAYOR SOLD US OUT shirt from the drawer

lmao at the poll showing Biden way ahead only counting ppl who are 45+

(I know, I know, they vote in droves, but still.)

I don't get the joke? Biden was still ahead with people under 45. He beat Sanders 26% to 21%. 33% to 13% overall, and 39% to 8% over 45. I don't see what's so funny about that?

It was my (possibly wrong) understanding not enough under 45s were even polled there to provide a workable figure

anyway my 2020 candidate will need to have a "radical left" climate stance bcz gradualism is out the window.

https://jacobinmag.com/2018/10/climate-change-united-nations-report-nordhaus-nobel

All the old, white men need to sit out and put their full throated support behind a not-old, white man candidate. But they never fucking learn.

I read this as "all the old, white men need to slit their throats..."

i am fine with that too.

It was my (possibly wrong) understanding not enough under 45s were even polled there to provide a workable figure

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), 16. oktober 2018 22:49 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The CNN article presents the numbers, but in the poll it says N/A, yeah. But pollsters weigh demographics, so even if they've reached fewer people under 45 than they wanted to (which they almost certainly have) the answers they have from young people potentially count for more. Or less, perhaps, the disparity between who votes in primaries is pretty big as well.

(Aimless raises his hand to his throat and touches it gently, thoughtfully.)

you're one of the good ones

viz., not a politician, as far as we know

so there was a page-one feature in the NYT last Friday about Sherrod Brown saying he's considering a run

he's been a liberal a lot longer than Gillibrand

whatever else, the race for the democratic nomination is going to be hotly contested in 2020. Beyond the 13 names in the OP poll, there must be at least another 10 by now who are rumored to be weighing their chances. I voted 'someone else' on general principles. odd that gillebrand got left out of the OP poll.

seems like a good time to buy low on alison lundergan grimes i guess

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article217669790.html

I fear the Grimes brand may be irreversibly tainted.

I believed she had a shot a beating McConnell, widely hated by GOP voters and in Kentucky, but she couldn't do it. Don't know how she'd do on a national stage. She's no Beto.

Oh wait, I just clicked through...she's aiming for governor. I'd like to think any Dem with a pulse who's ever fired a rifle could beat Bevin, but who knows.

was that an elon musk joke

somebody get Alex Padilla to run imo

did i tell this thread about the incredible email i received from an angry harris supporter after i was quoted online expressing some skepticism about harris?

i remember that, but maybe on FB

no? but do tell

after this quote:

Many in the grassroots are cautious, as is BIG HOOS, a digital organizer for the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington, D.C. “I am instinctively skeptical of a former prosecutor. People who made a living putting Black and brown people in jail deserve scrutiny,” he says.

i got this email

MR Smith,

You are nothing but a little Digital Communications Strategist. You aren't qualified to shine the shoes of Kamala Harris. You will not silence her. You will NOT bully her. You will not dismiss her. You will not insult her. You will not make her go away. Be careful how you refer to her and how you speak about her. We black voters are sick and fucking tired of fake allies like you putting down black candidates because of purity bullshit. We are watching and taking names. We learned our lessons from BernieOrBust and 2016 especially. You people will NOT change the makeup of black voters.You will NOT bully us into changing for you. We WON'T. WE will properly be vetting Bernie Sanders this time unlike 2016 when white liberal media gave this sucker a pass. It will be painful for him and painful for YOU as well. You want to talk about black and brown people in prison and Bernie Sanders? We can go there... Bernie Sanders will be answering questions this time and you people won't have Hillary Clinton as scapegoat anymore when fellow black voters send his ass packing again IF he has the audacity to run again. You come for Harris, we come for YOU. We are VERY proud of Kamala Harris and we don't give a fuck she took money from Mnuchin. We are getting shot at, fuck Mnuchin's $. Your problem with Mnuchin is a white person's problem not ours. We are done with folks like you making the rules for us. Those days are over.

A female black voter

AnyoneButBernie2020

big hoos the digital organizer eyyy

"nothing but a little Digital Communications Strategist" is going on my tombstone

kinda agree w her tbh, although I wouldn't have um expressed it quite in those terms

also HOOS I hope u know I have a shit ton of respect for the work you do and yr general principles

a lot going on in that email

when the xanax runs out

Yeah I mean I don't even take issue with the substance of her political points about Bernie and I'm not one of those people that waves the Mnuchin thing like the bloody shirt, there sure is a lot going on in that email though

I do tend take exception to people talking about minority voters monolithically whether the speaker is among the group in question or not

BIG LITTLE digital communications strategist

yea lol @ all the capitalized WE's

ah, better

BIG YOUS aka nothing but the digital communications strategist

lmao

Dems start screen testing their potential losing ticket. https://t.co/PDKN5ImWIB

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) December 14, 2018