I thought the "true story" stuff had been a misdirect going back to the original movie.
It is. There are no facts they are "more or less sticking to" even if there was some real life inspiration for certain aspects
I mean the UFOs kind of make that obvious don't you think? (quite apart from all the other totally outlandish elements)
― Number None, Friday, 5 October 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link
>I think I'm the rare Coens fan who didn't like A Serious Man
i'm with you on this one. also didn't really dig Burn After reading.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
I did realize they were embellishing sometimes, yes; I realized the aliens weren't real. But where did they draw the line? If almost all of it is embellishment, then I think they made a real bad call with Nikki's end. It should have been her who got to kill McGregor, and they didn't have to have her shoot the cop.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
It's not embellishment and there is no line (but it's fine if you think that was the wrong dramatic choice)
― Number None, Friday, 5 October 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
I started watching the series from the assumption that it was all made up; it was only after skimming a couple of pieces like this one that I started to wonder, "Wait--did some of this actually happen?" Sounds like I would have been better to stick with my original assumption.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/119085-is-fargo-season-2-a-true-story-its-connected-to-some-very-real-events
― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
well, she started off the seasons as a grifter, more or less, correct? and she had already killed one person earlier on in the season iirc. i don't think i ever saw her as growing out of her morally dubious approach to the world at any point as the season went on.
xpost
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 October 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
A really sweet, likable grifter, though, with--to get really corny--a good heart. Hadn't she only killed bad people before the cop? Anyway, I won't press the point any more. I just thought she deserved a better end.
― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link
it did feel out of character, but if she got arrested, she was going to get killed by varga. if i wanted to give the show credit, i'd say it was a commentary on how many prestige shows force us into feeling affection for antiheroes whose actions are objectively terrible if you stop and think about it for a minute. but really i think they just wanted an ending that was deflating, to go along with the ambiguity of the ending of the burgle/varga plot. no happy endings for anyone.
― na (NA), Friday, 5 October 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
what surprised me about her charter is how genuine her affection for Ray seemed to be. at first i figured she was just using him, but she did seem to genuinely love him as the season progressed.
― Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 5 October 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
She did. Maybe the best image of the whole season was her curled up in the bathtub with Ray tending to her.
http://whatelseisonnow.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/the-house-of-special-purpose-ray-finds-a-beaten-nikki-in-her-tub.jpg?w=1000&h=288&crop=1
― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xVbCJXsAAboD9?format=jpg&name=900x900
― Number None, Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link
From here: https://www.vulture.com/2019/07/fargo-season-4-cast-ben-whishaw-andrew-bird-jason-schwartzman.html
The list includes Jack Huston “as Odis Weff”; Jason Schwartzman as “Josto Fadda”; Ben Whishaw as “Rabbi Milligan”; Jessie Buckley as “Oraetta Mayflower”; Salvatore Esposito as “Gaetano Fadda”; Andrew Bird (guess he acts now!) as “Thurman Smutney”; Jeremie Harris as “Leon Bittle”; Gaetano Bruno as “Constant Calamita”; Anji White as “Dibrell Smutney”; Francesco Acquaroli as “Ebal Violante”; E’myri Crutchfield as “Ethelrida Pearl Smutney”; and Amber Midthunder as “Swanee Capps.”
hawley is fantastic at character names.
― mott the hoopleheads (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 July 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
Andrew Bird!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
I assume all these British actors will be doing midwestern American accents?
Also apparently...Chris Rock???
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
Sure! I mean, Key and Peele were in this already, and great. Plus, we've already had Martin Freeman and Ewan McGregor doing a (solid) midwest accent.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 July 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
Set in 1950.
― chap, Friday, 19 July 2019 08:40 (four years ago) link
i've started watching the show Patriot on Amazon and i love it and i think it would appeal to other people who like the show Fargo. it's not the same but has a similar appeal. so everyone here please start watching Patriot if you haven't already.
― na (NA), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure they are filming some of the upcoming season down the street from me!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link
yeah they've been filming in uptown in recent weeks. i had the day off on tuesday and thought about going to scope it out but couldn't find any indication online they were doing anything that day.
― na (NA), Thursday, 21 November 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
I'm in Oak Park. We just a minute ago passed a block populated by vintage cars, with a house lit and dressed for filming.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7zSHExPsFA
― Number None, Friday, 10 January 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link
Well Chris Rock and Schwartzman aren't exactly character actors, but it looks fun
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 January 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link
not even Olyphant can lure me back into this shitshow
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 10 January 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link
he's only good in Justified and Deadwood imo, but very good in them both tbf. But perhaps therein them two very good series' is his entire range.
― calzino, Friday, 10 January 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
he's also good in A Perfect Getaway and in thankless roles in a bunch of other movies
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 10 January 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link
i like him in p much anything i see him in. he's very funny and likable in the frankly very poor netflix comedy with drew barrymore "santa clarita diet".
bad as a villain in die hard mind you.
i can't see myself watching this show again. exhibit a in the "we have too many scripted tv shows trying to be prestige which are actually dumb and bad" hobby-horse of mine
― bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 January 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link
yup
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 10 January 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link
I'm gonna give it a shot because the other three seasons are all hits imo
― change display name (Jordan), Friday, 10 January 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link
Second season was fantastic.
― clemenza, Friday, 10 January 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link
Rewatching Season 2. I've got to mention again a scene in the fourth episode where Lou drops in on the Blumquists--he's onto their ruse with the car before anyone else--to let them know what they've accidentally gotten involved in. That scene is so great. He uses the war analogy of the doomed soldier who doesn't know he's doomed yet but has a certain look. That scene is the very essence of noir's the-noose-is-tightening foundation, as good as Fred MacMurray in Double Indemnity saying he couldn't hear his footsteps.
Also loved, in the meeting between Mrs. Gerhardt and the Kansas City people, the way one of the flunkies sidles up to Joe Bulo to whisper in his ear what happened at the hospital. Right out of The Godfather.
― clemenza, Friday, 10 April 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
The performances are so good, especially Bokeem Woodbine and Jean Smart. Woodbine seems very familiar, but when I look through his filmography, all I come up with is a cop in Dead Presidents--did he really make that much of an impression on me in what was probably a small role? I must be overlooking something.
― clemenza, Sunday, September 23, 2018 9:19 AM
I was. I must have just checked his filmography on Wikipedia, where TV is listed separately. I've started a Sopranos rewatch--that's why he seemed so familiar, Massive Genius in Season 1.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 02:22 (four years ago) link
They're filming by our house again. Someone we know saw Chris Rock in the wild this morning, and one of my kids and her friend are currently stalking the set.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 25 August 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
apparently it starts back up in a couple of weeks. surprising seeing as they were still filming as recently as a couple of weeks ago. i don't know how these things work.
― na (NA), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
I think this show in particular must really take some risks as far as starting to air the beginning of the season while still working on the end. Last season, my friend's song got used for a big moment, and they got the call only a week or two before the episode aired (this was ep9).
Seems insane to do it in this era, why not just wait until it's done? Unless they want to see the social media reaction or something, which would also seem weird for a tightly scripted show like this. Maybe he just likes the pressure.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
And maybe music licensing goes last, but if it hadn't worked out they would have at least had some re-editing to do.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
Still have half of episode 2 to finish, but good start. In tone and in look so far, much closer to S2 than the other two--great. Chris Rock is totally credible. Not so sure about Jason Schwartzman, who's forever in danger (for me, anyway) of veering off into Max Fischer.
― clemenza, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link
reviews for this are all over the place
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 28 September 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link
Based on the full season? I'll have to wait and see.
― clemenza, Monday, 28 September 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link
We’re bothered by the negative reviews so far. Leaning towards “wait and see” if we add this to the watchlist (later seasons of Legion were amazingly unrewarding given the cast)
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 28 September 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
I think it's really good, but the story is much bigger than they've ever done before so I'm curious to see how all these multiple strands pull together. I'm relatively confident they will because Hawley is a better writer and show runner than Ryan Murphy (who similarly does shows with too many plot strands, but has a tendency to just leave them after a few episodes because he's bored). Performances are all really good except for Andrew Bird who seems like Andrew Bird.
― akm, Sunday, 4 October 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
(I doubt any reviews are based on the full season, this is released week by week; usually reviewers are only given a few episodes for shows like that)
― akm, Sunday, 4 October 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link
Old timey Chris rock seems like no
― calstars, Sunday, 4 October 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link
we've seen the first two episodes so far, and while we have liked it, it's going pretty heavy on the quirk and hasn't clarified connections yet.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
"Old timey Chris rock seems like no" did you watch the show? I'm not sure what constitutes "old timey" to you, it's set in 1950.
― akm, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link
critics have seen 9 episodes
― Number None, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link
The character that puzzles me so far--how she's central to the narrative--is the nurse.
― clemenza, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
yeah. currently just a psycho.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
it's set in 1950
Into the timeline of the Atomic Age, but not quite into the Space Age.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:41 (three years ago) link
the nurse is already central to the narrative, she literally connects the gangster plot to the funeral home plot
― na (NA), Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link
yeah, but that's purely functional. I assume given the amount of time we have spent with her she will amount to more than a mere bridge.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 October 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link