Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me

This looks fun and probably miles better than the Bendis comics

I guess the one upside of superhero movie saturation is that audiences don't need to be told the same origin story over and again now, and they can do more... comic-booky stories, I guess?

NB I'm pretending Venom doesn't exist for the sake of that argument

John Mulaney as Spider-Ham!

Early reviews of this thing seem to be almost uniformly stellar.

I don't go to the cinema because of my tinnitus but I might make an exception for this. Will bring space helmet.

Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Because we should probably have a thread about the best-looking film I've seen this year.

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:28 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It was awesome

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:33 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I loved this.
Just like The Lego Movie, even if it weren't an effective and sweet heart-warming funny film, just on a visual level it's an incredible work.

Was coming around to seeing it soon, now I'm completely sold thanks to this:

https://www.theroot.com/i-expected-to-hate-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-t-1831076221

Friend who's seen it specifically agreed with this sentence:

This movie is what would happen if you took all the action and complex plots from the live-action Marvel movies, added the heart, humor and relatability of a Pixar film, with all of the dialogue by the staff writers of Atlanta.

Also interesting:

http://remezcla.com/features/film/miles-morales-spider-man-spider-verse-spanish-dialogue/

Seen some promo thing about Peter Parker forgetting how awesome it is to be Spiderman. Having a girlfriend killed, being tortured, buried alive, having an eye plucked out, briefly becoming a villain+murderer, your identity and lifespan in doubt, becoming a wife beater and Joe Quezada trying to destroy your marriage will do that to a guy.

Manslaughtering your beloved wife with your radioactive jizz, too.

I thought this was soooooooo good.

This was terrific. Now that almost any superhero concept can be done live-action, it was great to see a smart film that really had to be an animated film.

Really liked this - and I have no previous interest in Spider-Man. The animation was spectacular and the colours often very beautiful, and the humour was fast and effective. Definitely worth seeing at the cinema.

Yep, excellent film. Takes full advantage of the medium and truly feels like a comic book on the screen. I saw Aquaman the night before which was such an inept mess comparatively

Enjoyed this. Great fun.
Liked the end graphics too. Very trippy.

& it does have an end of credits scene which I didn't quite get the context of.

BUt great fun, is it going to get sequels do you think?

A whole Marvel Noir film, & what else came out around the same time that series first did? Was it just the Mayflower one too?
Could see some mileage in the first, less in the latter.

But Miles is set up now.
Everybody else there had a previous incarnation in comics i think. Not sure about Spider girl or was that in a What If?
Not come across the Sp//dr and Peni Parker thing before though.

All of them come from the comics.

I was confused about something (spoilers?) .....

So Miles lives in a world where there already is a Spider-man, but then he gets bit by a *different* radioactive spider that's been wandering around? Where did the other spider come from? Nbd, I loved this, just was a bit confused.

For those who might not be aware, Spider-Verse was an event in the comics a couple years back which mashed together literally every incarnation of Spider-Man that ever existed, including all of the variations from the comics as well as, for instance, the one from the '67 Bakshi cartoon and the one from the Electric Company and the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot. It was kinda nuts and surprisingly more fun than disastrous.

(I can't speak to the movie I haven't seen yet, but in the Ultimate comics there was a Peter Parker Spider-Man who died and then, yes, Miles was later bitten by a different spider and became Spider-Man Mk II.)

This was fantastic - visually stunning, funny, sweet and practically bursting with ideas.

I watched this followed right after by Aquaman, which was such a letdown in comparison.

re the post credits scene: it (and pretty much the whole movie tbh) is a riff on this classic internet meme.

xpost Which is sort of what happens here. But where did the other spider come from, years after Peter Parker was first bitten? I thought the first spider was a one-off.

I thought all of the ending credits were tons of fun.

In the comics, some scientist was trying to reverse engineer Spidey's powers after his death and Miles was bitten by one of those experimental spiders. Guessing they probably didn't want to delve too deeply into the whole 'harvesting hero corpses for their superhuman abilities' thing in this film and just left it at 'hey look, another spider'.

I think I was wondering more about the bit leading up to that photo. In the internet meme like.

What a great, great film, can't say anything more than others have already. And man that design sense throughout, with the offprinted color suggestions and the like.

I approve of this news

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2018/12/20/christmas-songs-from-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-to-be-released/

this was a blast. tons and tons of fun. I guess if I had one thing I would have asked for it would have been more villains.

the one from the Japanese show where he piloted a giant robot.
― Home Despot (Old Lunch), Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:09 PM

Is she really anything like that version of Spiderman? Wasn't that Spiderman a bit like the classic version, but just riding a huge robot?

Apparently there are 5 Japanese versions. I like to refer to the Ono/Ikegami/Hirai version as "the masturbating Spiderman that Marvel will never fully reprint". Apparently some Japanese readers much prefer this version. Even Rumiko Takahashi (Ranma, Urusei Yatsura, Inuyasha) said the American original was "too light hearted for my taste".

Ok in addition to being a good movie, this is undoubtedly the greatest technical achievement in computer animation to date.

my 4yo buddy's review: 'i like spider-man.' why, dude? 'he gets up'

was the female Doc Ock from the comics?

original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia

particular <3 to Kathryn Hahn, Liev Schreiber, Lily Tomlin in this v good voice cast.

"do animals talk in this universe?"

the trailers in front of this were a mix of very dire and samey children's animation about fuzzy animals with indistinguishable handclappy pop themes, intolerable Christian movies, and DC's Shazam, which struck me as at least not horribly misbegotten and possibly charming in a throwbacky kind of way

god, the crossturbation trailers actually had me reacting loudly in the theatre. we had two of them.

did you get the one with Topher Grace?

I wouldn't know

was the female Doc Ock from the comics?
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:33 PM

original to this film apparently, according to wikipedia
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, December 24, 2018 5:37 PM

There was one in the 90s but probably a different character.

GOD DAMN this was TREMENDOUS. this is EXACTLY what a comic book movie should be.

only niggle, which is common to pretty much all movies and tv now, is that everything happens so fast you forget what just came before. there's v little time to actually process anything. but my lord, the benday dots and shading and absurdly abstract climax - cars and buildings and trains and the brooklyn bridge all floating by in a swirling, howling matrix of dots and colours, all to be used as background and leverage and weapon. utterly insane.

my 7-y-o says, pausing over a burrito afterwards, "it was all about the promise he makes to peter parker." and i thought god damn, lord and miller would bottle that moment if they could and put it on their mantelpiece.

It really is that good. Kinda expect to see this being a year zero moment way more than anything around it -- just give it a few years.

i don't think I've ever seen anything like it, outside of loony tunes. the anarchy and physical delight of it.

Agreed that this is the standard to which superhero movies should set themselves. I’d take something of this caliber over any live action adaptation for what it’s worth.

- bagel -

it turns out 'make pretend real' wasn't it

were the backgrounds and foregrounds supposed to be deeply off-register at times or should i bug the theater about a refund for showing the 3D version during the 2D showing?

Yes that was an intentional choice to interpret depth of field through a “misregistration” effect. Theatrical 3D uses polarization not colored lenses. (NB I thought this effect was very cool.)

i had the same thought! the fact they were able to make choices that bold is frankly a goddamn Christmas miracle imo

there is something else that annoys me, not a big deal, but hang on for an extremely Old Lunch post. i too have read a screenwriting book or two, and there is a moment in this movie which is commonly known as All Is Lost - miles is imprisoned by super-strong spidey string to a chair, his powers deemed too immature for him to participate in the Final Mission; he is unable to make good on his promise to peter parker. everything has stopped, the movie is going to happen without him. now typically what happens here is the hero has to realise some fundamental truth about themselves in order to tap into their real power - they have to stop fighting fate, or realize they're actually in love, or whatever. once the key to their own personal conflict has been turned they're able to advance to the public conflict of the A-story. this little turn has been used so many times in so many movies that we're primed for it, even if just subconsciously. so it almost no longer even needs to make any sense, in a way. it just needs to be there. and in this movie it just sort of seemed to be there without making much sense. Miles' dad shows up, knocking at his door. to tell him that.. he's hard on him because he loves him! but.. we knew that! miles knew it! his dad even hailed him on the patrol car's loudspeaker to tell him he loved him, in front of all his new classmates (fantastic scene by the way!) I guess you could say that Miles doesn't in fact CONFIDE in his dad - he saves that for his uncle. that's a key that could be turned here, maybe. but miles doesn't (can't, in fact - his mouth's stopped up!) So his dad just.. leaves? but the box has been ticked - Miles now digs deep and can turn on his electricity powers and we're off. i mean.. not a huge deal but it is the pivot on which Miles' story turns and it's pro forma.

lol okay my 7-y-o has set me straight on this. Miles WANTS to confide in his dad but he can't because his mouth is stopped up and it makes him so mad that he is able to use his powers, like the Hulk!

broke my superhero movie ban for this and dammit i'm glad i did. an absolute feast for the eyes. i mean in a year where isle of dogs and mandy both came out...idk they're all spectacular in completely different ways, unforgettably bold.

while this film maybe missed a couple of storytelling beats in its rush to be a literal comic book, it really is the best representation of the form i can imagine having existed on screen thus far. it couldn't have put any more thought, effort or love into its desire to do the form justice. it makes me want to read marvel comics and that coming from me is nearly heresy

let's talk about phil lord (and christopher miller) (but mostly phil lord). the dude wrote this and i think his script and story allowed the perfect pacing and space for the visuals to build to their jaw-gaping climax, which was kind of like cloudy with a chance of meatballs turned up to fifteen - he's always wanted to make this exact spectacle and now he has (as producer/writer - i'm v interested to find out more about the actual direction team)

i've wanted to start a lord/miller thread for a while. i'm obv v cynical about superhero movies and hollywood spectacles and such but they are YET TO MAKE A BAD FILM - they absolutely nail it every time. i think they and lord especially are the preeminent geniuses of the actionverse right now. they have some very repeatable but always laudable tropes. they are single-handedly responsible for making cops cool again. i mean they're doing amazing work presenting their idea what the police could and should be - strong, fatherly, responsible, moral, balanced. so yeah they love cops, sure, but they mostly love good fathering. idk i'm rambling here. cops as servants rather than corrupt powerbrokers. it's a fantasy maybe but they own it so well. stop me ffs

also all their scripts are on point

Saw this yesterday, and it was great. I did feel like it dragged in places towards the end (too many action set-pieces of all things), but the emotional scenes are extremely potent.

The cliffhanger ending where Gwen's drum solo shows up on the soundtrack again was OMG, A+++++.

I wouldn't normally watch an 18-minute (or even 8-minute) YouTube video; but my kid showed me this, and it's really well done – the guy tackles a big plot element of the movie that didn't really make sense for me either, and goes for a grand No-Prize explanation that seems right on target (guess we'll find out in the third movie):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ESxmyDnTms

also seems unlikely reading this that part two is gonna hit its release date

I blame you, bg! j/k

“Spider-Man: Beyond the Spider-Verse,” the third film in the blockbuster Lord and Miller animated franchise, has been undated. It was meant to open March 29, 2024. Due to union’s work stoppage orders, the voice cast cannot complete dialogue recording in time for the spring opening, said a Sony source. A new date is expected in the coming weeks.

honestly, good, maybe they won't give the animators as many lashes this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ90GIuawAo

Navel gazing that I'm here for.

Like it's genuinely kinda beautiful.

That was surprisingly great!

Coming to Netflix on Halloween: https://deadline.com/2023/10/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-digital-release-date-netflix-1235575546/

Do we have a thread for discussing "Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU)," and specifically this new Madame Web movie? Thx

One of Dr. Morbius's many gifts to our community is making it impossible to find anything on the Jared Leto film.

Free-to-stream Spider-Verse short on YT tomorrow!

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/the-spider-within-a-spider-verse-story-when-and-where-to-stream-the-short-film/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGPpwFdE1Y

I still don't know what they thought, not releasing this movie in the relevant territories as Kilometers Morales.

Good news bad news.

Good: promo images released: https://www.polygon.com/animation-cartoons/550215/spider-man-beyond-the-spider-verse-first-look-images

Bad: June 4, 2027.

wow

"We decided we didn't want to actually cause our animators to seize up and die from working 100-hour days."

How long did the other ones take? They did seem like a lot of work!

America ain't gonna last that long

Don’t you see? This is why America HAS to last at least that long

We've got to pause this whole Spider-verse until we can figure out what the hell is going on

Ned OTM.

The gap between the first 2 was about 4 years, so this actually tracks. Still, feels like getting kicked while I'm down.

Meanwhile...

https://deadline.com/2025/08/spider-punk-animated-feature-daniel-kaluuya-ajon-singh-sony-1236478287/

So, in the meantime (in black-and-white and color versions):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgMbkitzhEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Blr0_koQA

Oh this looks fun

FINALLY

Keeping expectations low after reading his “70% Bogart, 30% Bugs Bunny” approach. At least B&W won’t show blood from all the scenery chewing.

Hopeful that Miles will appear in Avengers: Doomsday.

Hopeful that Miles will appear in Avengers: Doomsday.

Keeping expectations low after reading his “70% Bogart, 30% Bugs Bunny” approach.

This is exactly how he played the character in Into the Spiderverse so I’m not very concerned about it

Yeah, but he's in those movies a sum total of, what, a minute and a half?

Yes, it’s a lot of Cage, from the Sony folk who brought us Kraven, Morbius, Madame Web, and Venom. Just hoping for a quality product.

Lamorne Morris is in it! Awesome

the way he delivers that “Plaa-hAA-stered” line sold me

i’m so in

fully expecting this to be three episodes' worth of plot thinly spread across eight episodes but it does look like fun, and i'm more than happy to get more cage spider-man while we wait for the next spider-verse movie

And another set of trailers for the Cage thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfowFyDxUXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpN2RavI5C8

One last set -- series starts next week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ1j7hSU6aE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5QW457407U

Okay so all episodes dropped apparently — watched the first, it’s pastiche of course but so is the source material and that’s the point. Looks slick, moves quick and Cage is Mr Twenties/Thirties Hollywood anyway so he’s in his element. But quick, wry and low-key, not bad.