jonah goldberg talkin shit

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loving that hes considered a prominent intellectual conservative these days

deej, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

i consider him a prominent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n12lnaaMVLc

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:03 (seventeen years ago)

He so proud!

If you want a sense of how popular I am with the LA Times community, check out the (354 and counting) comments to my Obama national service column.

One small point in response (I know, I know: Why bother?). The 13th amendment lists involuntary servitude and slavery as different things. If they were the same, the founders wouldn't have wasted the ink repeating themselves.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:06 (seventeen years ago)

A couple of days ago re a certain dead former Senator:

Am I saying that Helms became colorblind simply by virtue of being baptized into the Republican Party? Of course not. But he was pretty well constrained to the limits of what the GOP would allow. Nonetheless, conservatives have a heavier burden to speak clearly on these issues. But in response too Helms' death, we chose kindness over a more honest accounting.

I...I am moved.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:07 (seventeen years ago)

did Jessie like Jews?

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:09 (seventeen years ago)

didn't he invite a physical fight at some point in the last couple years?

mookieproof, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

"The 13th amendment lists involuntary servitude and slavery as different things. If they were the same, the founders wouldn't have wasted the ink repeating themselves."

Um, "the founders"?

Martin Van Burne, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:54 (seventeen years ago)

The Annex of Rights

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:55 (seventeen years ago)

lol i didnt even catch that

and what, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:58 (seventeen years ago)

bah no comments on The Corner?

HI DERE, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:59 (seventeen years ago)

That would be too easy, Dan.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 July 2008 01:01 (seventeen years ago)

Annnnnnd....he flaunts his intellectual cred with Peter Beinart.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 July 2008 01:06 (seventeen years ago)

And apologizes:

Just to stop the flow of e-mail, let me say it up here as well. Last night, writing in haste I referred to the authors of the 13th amendment as the "founders." Obviously, this was an error — the founders had moved on to better things by then. Not that the angry e-mailers will believe me, but it was merely a typing error. I did actually know that the amendment that ended slavery was written around the time, you know, slavery ended.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:37 (seventeen years ago)

LOL@"noted black british journalist dast00r" above

czn, Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:45 (seventeen years ago)

Obviously, this was an error — the founders had moved on to better things by then.

Long dead = better things

Pancakes Hackman, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:11 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://a923.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_63a65bb36c7a63116ef55aa3bc25733a.gif
^^^^nick straker looks an awful lot like jg ... coincidence?

deej, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 12:00 (seventeen years ago)

Obama the postmodernist

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

oh fuckin fuck shitballs arschkrumeln that fucking clueless take on "postmodernism" drives me fucking insane

I know that's the point but when these fucking guys construct this massive strawman and call it postmodernism it really pisses me off

I say this as a guy who has no particular love for actual postmodernism

J0hn D., Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

His smugness is the worst sin. "You guys don't GET postmodernism's `hidden agenda.' Lemme explain it for you nice and slow..."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

it makes me so fucking crazy

"they're interested in how meaning is generated...what they're saying is that nothing has any meaning!" GAAAAAHHHHH YOU FUCK THEY CARE ABOUT MEANING MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT'S LIKE THE ONLY THING THEY EVER THINK ABOUT

J0hn D., Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:50 (seventeen years ago)

which is what makes them so fucking boring, which would be a valid critique, if you were actually interested in forming a valid critique instead of fleecing dumbshits for their twenty bucks

eat shit jonah goldberg you are bloated with fail

J0hn D., Tuesday, 5 August 2008 13:51 (seventeen years ago)

reading that was infuriating

deej, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

what a dense motherfucker

deej, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)

"he only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases"

J0hn D., Tuesday, 5 August 2008 14:10 (seventeen years ago)

Just watched this today for the first time. It's really o_O.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=147884&title=jonah-goldberg

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:03 (seventeen years ago)

Obama gives every indication of having evolved from this intellectual soup

remy bean, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:05 (seventeen years ago)

Boy, is he defensive in that clip.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:07 (seventeen years ago)

As he should be. Jon rips him a new one.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:10 (seventeen years ago)

I think Stewart actually points out really well what bothers me about Goldberg. He uses these terms, like Liberal or Fascist, as though they refer to real definitive Platonic forms. Like when he suggests that there's a problem with Hillary calling herself progressive, and Stewart asks him whether he thinks Hillary is using that as code to align herself with "racist" progressives. Obv language is used by different people in different ways, but Goldberg doesn't really understand that.

Mordy, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

That postmodernism article is truly horrible, especially as the Bush administration has been so actively postmodernist (in the sense that Goldberg "articulated"), e.g. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality."

Euler, Tuesday, 5 August 2008 16:16 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-goldberg12-2008aug12,0,6742318.column

The invasion of Georgia elicited a wan written communique instead of the sort of exciting rhetoric we've come to expect from his make-believe presidency. But he did make it in front of the cameras the next day for a rally celebrating his vacation in Hawaii. He promised "to go body surfing at some undisclosed location."

During Obama's make-believe presidency, we've heard about bold action, about the courage to talk to dictators. When faced with a real "3 a.m. moment," Obama -- who boasts about 200 foreign policy advisors, broken into 10 subgroups -- proclaims, "I'm going to get some shave ice."

Wtf, Jonah? How do you call it a make-believe presidency, and then complain he's on vacation at the SAME TIME? ARE YOU A FUCKING IDIOT?

Mordy, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

Jonah Goldberg can hum on my balls, and you can quote me on that.

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)

I tuned into Rush for my 2 min wtf moment as I sometimes do and he was explaining how Russia invading Georgia proves that diplomacy doesn't work, blaming Obama and the left wing. Then he started talking about how maybe John Edwards wanted a wife "who does something with her mouth other then talk".

http://i11.tinypic.com/53ucxtl.gif

bnw, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:44 (seventeen years ago)

Just saw what's left of that Jon Stewart clip. Too bad it only survives in this form, cuz Stewart isn't in great form. The best approach would have been to allow Goldberg to unspool his gibberish before interjecting "lol fascism /= liberalism" remarks.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:54 (seventeen years ago)

When that motherfucker's wrong, he is truly RONG:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080818/zirin2

Formerly Painful Dentistry, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

A masterpiece.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 22 August 2008 17:34 (seventeen years ago)

Jonah Goldberg is on fire tonight. When did he come out as a rabid sexist?

Hillary Speech So Far [Jonah Goldberg]

Is a lot about...Hillary.

08/26 10:57 PM

Lilly Ledbetter [Jonah Goldberg]

Wow, she was even worse than Sebelius. Tootsie with a southern accent. I burst into laughter when they started playing "I'm so excited" after she finished.

Sebelius...Boring....Losing Consciousness [Jonah Goldberg]

Wow, that is one low energy lady. Attractive but duller than watching moss blow in the wind.

08/26 09:10 PM

Mordy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:09 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

DePaul Tuesday Night [Jonah Goldberg]

Thanks for all the queries about tomorrow (10/28) at DePaul. Here's the info: 08:00 PM Debate, Lincoln Park Campus/MPR Room 120.

10/27 10:58 PM

should i go to this y/n

joe 40oz (deej), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 07:29 (seventeen years ago)

YESYESYESYES

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 07:36 (seventeen years ago)

But only if you're willing to bring the lolz back to ILX afterward.

Mordy, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 07:36 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

Kathleen Parker says things.

Jonah is annoyed.

Fun fun!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 15:38 (seventeen years ago)

can we adapt "YAAAAH SCHISM YAAAAH" as an official meme now? (royalties to TOMBOT effective)

HI, YOUR BAND! (Mackro Mackro), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:00 (seventeen years ago)

hahaha

The best part is that Kathleen is unrelentingly OTM.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

More fun:

My email box runneth over with nice attaboys and more than a few interesting criticisms regarding my post about Kathleen Parker. Keying off some of the criticisms, here's one thing I want to know, as I sit here at the Whither Conservatism conference. What aspects of the Christian Right amount to oogedy-boogedyism? I take oogedy-boogedy to be a perjorative reference to absurd superstition and irrational nonsense. So where has the GOP embraced to its detriment oogedy-boogedyism? With the possible exception of some variants of creationism (which is hardly a major issue at the national level in the GOP, as much as some on the left and a few on the right try to make it one), I'm at a loss as to what Kathleen is referring to. Opposition to abortion? Opposition to gay marriage? Euthanasia? Support for prayer in school?

There are all sorts of legitimate positions on all sides of these issues and I don't necessarily agree with the conventional religious right view on all of them. And as a committed federalist, I'd like to see most if not all of them settled as locally as possible. But I think it's silly and offensive to describe the mainstream social conservative positions on these issues as "oogedy boogedy" stuff. Moreover, as a matter of political analysis it's beyond absurd to think the GOP can become a majority party by adopting a rhetorical tone toward religious conservatives usually found at the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos. I'm sure Bill Maher agrees with Kathleen. But normally, at least for people who call themselves conservatives, when Bill Maher agrees with you it's a sign that you took a wrong turn somewhere.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:12 (seventeen years ago)

You aren't a martyr smoking your last cigarette. You're just another columnist, talented and charming to be sure, but just another columnist.

this reads like pulp lyrics

most important concept of all -- THE CONCEPT OF LOVE (donna rouge), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:13 (seventeen years ago)

Oh Jonahpaws, let's start with the charming local priest who told his Catholic congregation that they would not receive Communion until they asked for forgiveness for voting for Obama and then work our way through a myriad of televangelists.

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:15 (seventeen years ago)

should be under the wiki for butthurtedness

bnw, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:16 (seventeen years ago)

this reads like pulp lyrics

I thought that you were joking / When you said "I want to see you
To discuss conservatism / and the future of our nation's heart and soul
Six o'clock, my place, DC" / Well I arrived just after seven
But you said "It doesn't matter" / "I understand your irritation
And your image, and I'm flattered / Oh and I'd just like to tell you
That I love all of your writings / Could you sign this for my editor?
She's on a cruise, her name is K-Lo / Now get down to the gist:
Do you want a line of this? / Are you a (sniff) / columnist?"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

It reads like John Prine!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:22 (seventeen years ago)

It can be all these things, and more!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)


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