I typed a whole answer as justifying circumstances, but I'm out.
― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
i have one daughter (9 months) and i care for my neice and nephew (4 and 2) 45-50 hours a week. we often go grocery shopping and running errands throughout the day and i never have needed a leash. i don't think that is due to my super human abilities.
and i don't think that anyone is a 'bad man' for using a leash. to each his own. i do feel that it is lazy and it is not necessary. sorry if i have crushed your self esteem.
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Suck On That, BF Skinner!) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
The conjunction of these two sentences made my head blow up.
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I say that granting that in the other 20% of cases you will, yes, see either (a) the sad spectacle of a perfectly orderly kid nonetheless tethered, presumably out of paranoia, and sometimes at disturbingly advanced ages, or (b) worse, the parent who stands there having a long conversation or paying attention to something else entirely, while, at the end of the leash, the child runs around raising hell. (I guess people do this with very small dogs, as well.) Which is dumb, for the obvious reasons, and also dangerous, because relying on the leash as some kind of magical protection will, yeah, not keep the kid from eating thumbtacks, punching strangers in the nuts, or trying to hug vicious dogs.
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
There is a day care close to DU, in the mornings I see them taking the kids for a walk on the low traffic semi-urban sidewalks when the weather allows. These are 3 year olds it looks like They are either holding onto, or somehow affixed to a 10 yard long run of webbing, 2 abreast by maybe 8 kids long. I'm here to say. One kid on a leash: demeaning oppression. 16 kid toddler chaingang: TOTALLY TWEE-DORABLE! Will add, they always seem happy enough. Now MUSH!
― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
you should attach a hamster water bottle to its cage and i am sure it will thrive.
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
OH NOES IM A BAD LAZY PERANT!!!
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:19 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.pharmacyseek.com/images/meds/ritalin.jpg
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
YEEHAW!! ROUND UP DEM LITTLE DOGIES!!!!
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
didn't we have a "what will a middle-aged ILX argue about" thread?
― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
i am not saying that the RARE circumstance does not exist that would warrant such a contraption. perhaps that is true for onimo. it just seems that many who enlist the device do so because they would rather tie the child to their person than be bothered to pay enough attention to keep hold of them. they seem to be overused. like television/kid's videos, i guess.
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
LOOK AT THIS MISERABLE DEGRADED CHIDL
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Curious) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hunter (Hunter), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Really? I only see a kid on a leash maybe once every couple of years. I think if they were very commonplace they wouldn't seem strange at all but the novelty of it makes it seem unnecessary.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Lovelace (Lovelace), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Give a child matches and he is an arsonist for a day.
Give a child a lighter and he is an arsonist for a week.
But teach a child to start fires with nothing but two sticks and some string and he may be an arsonist for the rest of his life.
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Show me the studies that show that these child harnesses are damaging to children; until you do, the two examples are more equivalent than dissimilar.
― Dan (Kids Need Exercise, Putting Them In A Car Is Just Lazy) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Emilymv (Emilymv), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Amity Wong (noodle vague), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bea (And I Would Have Gotten Away With It If IT Wasn't For Those Meddling Kids) , Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost
― jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I bet people who put leashes on their kids put humiliating sweaters on their dogs.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't have kids, but I was one myself once, and I think I can safely say I could have lived with having been attached to my parents for a while rather than being another roadkill statistic. (My parents were exceptionally good at parenting, as far as I'm concerned, taught me right from wrong, all that malarkey, and I have no idea whether I was reined or not - presumably not as I would still be bearing the mental scars of such brutal degradation)
Incidentally, what's wrong with children's TV?
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link
This is what I expected to be in the hatch on Lost. Would've been far more interesting.
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
As indeed, I did (what with the alternative being not living and everything). God, my vocabulary is pathetic at times. Perhaps my parents should have tethered me to a thesaurus.
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― JimD (JimD), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I see no problem w/ it generally-- wisely used and where age appropriate.
― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rebekkah (burntbrat), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 2 December 2005 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Other news: my Mum used to tie me to the mattress at night. No, really. I used to keep standing up in my cot and crying because I couldn't get back down again so Mum made a special sleeping bag for me which attached to the mattress and made me feel secure. Even now, I adore getting into a bed with sheets tucked in really tightly because it gives me the same feeling of security.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 09:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 December 2005 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Concerned Of Tabloid Land (GerryNemo), Friday, 2 December 2005 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link