― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio, I just can't sign in, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Michael White (Hereward), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link
That said, Roger is such a preening, self-gratifying, defensive, disrespectful asshole that I have no desire to commend him for the fact that he "thinks outside the box." woo woo. Here's your cookie.
― miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link
like that didn't give you a boner
― miccio, for realz, Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:09 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.aspencountry.com/aspen/assets/product_images/product_lib/27000-27999/27004.jpg
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:11 (nineteen years ago) link
wow you must make a fucking ton of cash as a truck driver to be in the top 1% of earners, Roger
― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Quisenberry (deangulberry), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Let me tell you a story.
My coworker Tom is Massachusetts born and raised. Known about Kerry pretty much all his life as a result. Way back earlier this year, I asked him about Kerry and what his exact profile was, what he was like, was he well loved, etc. And Tom's point was a simple but effective one:
"Kerry isn't elected because a lot of people really like him. He's elected because the other guy is always worse."
It's looking like that's what's going to happen here. And if the choice is quite simply the difference between two evils in the end, I will choose what I believe is the lesser.
To my mind, Bush answers for much. He answers for ignorance, willful ignorance, in questions of science on a national level. He answers for shallowness, in the sense that 'taking a stand' becomes 'never moving from it.' He answers for lack of responsibilty, for blaming everything that could happen in his administration and to his administration on others than who he picked, approved of, defended. He answers for incompetence as demonstrated in the haphazard idiocy that is the Iraq invasion and occupation, where political expediency constantly came to the fore first and foremost with dire and continuing consequences. He answers for bigotry with the support of the FMA, one of the most pernicious and revolting ideas ever seriously considered to be enshrined as a *core part of the Constitution.*
He answers for the dead. He answers for all the dead. He answers for them all and he can only find an answer by proclaiming that because Saddam and Osama and the like are, inarguably, murderers he himself is a stainless white knight, pure and wonderful and never ever EVER wrong.
He answers for saying "Bring them on." And now how many of my fellow citizens are dead, maimed, have lost friends and lovers and spouses and parents and children? And how many in Iraq found that the land of milk and honey promised by an adminstration that placed its faith in inaccurate intelligence, in political operators, in pie-in-the-sky dreams, is in fact less that now?
He answers for that and so much more. Hopefully he will answer tonight. If not, a pity. But he will answer. And by god if I won't feel the greatest satisfaction seeing him and all the lickspittle buttkissing power-worshipping ignorance-encouraging toadies that tried to ride every coattail of his no matter what price principles or their souls suffer in the answering.
Let them burn.
If Kerry fails more spectacularly on all these kinds of fronts, let him burn too. But the hunch, right now, is that he would not. He is yet untested in the role. Bush is. AND LET HIM BURN.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link
I know, it kind of sucks, but what do you do? Andrea Dworkin had a piece in the Guardian on Monday saying how much she deplored lesser-of-two-evils politics, but that this time, she was voting for Kerry on exactly that basis. She came across like a pretty pompous hypocrite, actually.
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Badnarik is a joke. Look over his website, please. If the impassioned endorsement from Doug "Host of 'The Man Show'" Stanhope on page 1 doesn't convince you that Badnarik is a true champ, a quick scan through his absolutely idiotic takes on gun control and law enforcement should do the trick.
And as for this:"Come on, folks, you're smarter than this"...
Roger, you've talked about your love for Ann Coulter on this board. Give me a fucking break.
― Clusterfuck at the Baja Fresh Salsa Bar (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
really? they're going after two-barrel shotguns with the assault weapons ban? or was he using a full-auto AR15? or are you full of crap?
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Tuesday, 2 November 2004 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't make 200K or own a cardigan. Am I a pansy-ass liberal? I am whatever you say I am.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Kevin Gilchrist (Mr Fusion), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 02:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link
you bitter bastard. This is your precious democracy in action. Lap it up, brother!
There's a part of me that LOVES chaos. Being on a sinking ship excites me in a perverse way. That's why I'm laughing so hard - not at any of you, per se - but at this entire catastrophic situation.
I mean, really, personal opinions aside - what a disaster!
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― papa november (papa november), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 05:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mary H Christ, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
erm, moderator?
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link
* AAGH OMG KILL ME KILL ME KILL ME
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 06:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― *@*.* (gareth), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― LE CHUCK!™ (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 07:36 (nineteen years ago) link