Norm Macdonald Returns to Television!

The last episode is some real boring shit, which makes sense because it’s two canadians talking

It's undeniable he has always appealed to a frat-boy kind of crowd, the types who are extremely put-out that it's now considered unacceptable to use 'gay' and 'retarded' to mean 'bad/stupid' (terms Norm himself threw around frequently on his Youtube show). Jokes about Eget 'sucking guys off', hookers, women not being funny, etc. He's often tongue-in-cheek-but-not-really. I never quite liked that side to him; he's very intelligent and it often comes through but he falls back on the bro stuff constantly. In college (early 2000s) I remember his bit about 'are you really proud of your gay son?' -- morning jock types would laff and laff. Your Adam Corollas and Joe Rogans love him. And he has no qualms about cultivating that type of fanbase. It's very clear that he's coming from an anti-PC/conservative point of view. It's not like he's trying hard to hide it.

Personally, I don't like that side to his stuff. But I find myself wading through the crap to hear his funny bits about the Beverly Hillbillies and Kojak...

I always took the gay son bit to be a joke about well meaning parents overcompensating for their discomfort or trying extra hard to project that they are good parents. The joke being that sexuality isn’t an achievement, it’s just sexuality.

Maybe it is some sort of hyperspecific comment on something but I think it's more likely that he's just homophobic.

probably, yeah

There probably is some homophobia in it as well, I just don't think the punchline is "You say you're proud of your gay son, but actually being gay is shameful and gross." The punchline is more that what kind of sex your child has with whom is not normally in the category of things you say you are "proud" of.

that's a stupid joke, given that people aren't "proud" that they're children fuck other people of the same gender, they're "proud" of them for being brave enough to publicly endure discrimination as out, gay ppl

fuck this guy

their children

you know what I mean

"that's a stupid joke, given that 'orange' is a fruit and 'aren't you' is just a phrase and I certainly wouldn't 'orange' if someone didn't say banana after repeating it so many times"

lol u thought that was a good comparison

my defense starts with the fact that the joke is 20 years old, homophobic or not

and continues with, compared to his 90s comic peers like dennis miller who he sat across from when he most famously did the joke or the guys mentioned above, rogan and carolla, who built a career in later years off being hateful, dennis miller is senile now and is worried about ocasio-cortez death panels and carolla has turned into a stormfront guy, rogan is tweeting about white genocide in south africa and has devoted dozens of hours to promoting fascists to his tens of millions of viewers (20 mil viewers just totaling up the last 4 jp interviews, 7.5 m to watch rogan have a sitdown with ben shapiro)... i just think there's a difference between guys like miller, rogan, carolla or irony-poisoned millennial comedians that drop slurs and whine about how the tide is turning and you can't be offensive anymore, and a guy like norm macdonald that yeah definitely makes gay jokes but and seems out of touch but mostly thoughtful and not a hateful person and hosted gay and trans people on his show, and will be dead, realistically, within the next decade...

brb posting Norm's joke to the puns that you had missed thread

that's a stupid joke, given that people aren't "proud" that they're children fuck other people of the same gender, they're "proud" of them for being brave enough to publicly endure discrimination as out, gay ppl

it must be wild to have this thought, think to oneself "norm macdonald fans must not know this," and then follow through with sharing the thought on the norm macdonald thread.

tbf norm macdonald fans seem p stupid

in your mind, i've no doubt that they and many others must

I really have no concept of what a “typical” Norm fan looks like. I’m sure there’s some overlap with the bro-cast crew, but he’s popular amongst the uh... more discerning too.

Lol man is oustic brain ded or wut

hmmm he might have a point

^ norm stans

I think the premise of the "proud dad" bit is simply that "ew, gay sex is icky."

So I find that problematic. But I should say that I binged the whole Netflix series in two nights. I don't know -- I find them too short, so the laugh-out-loud bits are few and far between. He would do better with an hour and a half maybe.

It's better when he's interviewing his old buddies (the David Spade was good); some of the interviewees (Jane Fonda) seemed to have accidentally wandered on set. Although that show did have a moving observation from Norm about what a gift it is for Fonda to have hundreds of hours of footage of her father, whereas his memories of his father are fading into oblivion.

people who aren't norm macdonald

https://i.imgur.com/r017xyG.jpg

(W. S. Merwin, who died yesterday)

what the fuck happened to this man's brain

This piece of shit Seth Simons couldn't make it as a comic so he decided to destroy real comics. Here's an example of what this piece off shit protected America from. - DWECK https://t.co/58624qARUy via @YouTube

— Norm Macdonald (@normmacdonald) October 10, 2019

Hey, you fucking piece of shit, it's you that's The Joker, a failed stand-up that kills someone who got a TV show. I cannot wait to meet you. And I will. https://t.co/UHQ1aHeVki

— Norm Macdonald (@normmacdonald) October 10, 2019

(the first clip is an unfunny comedy sketch that feeds directly into the conservative victim complex)

what the fuck happened to this man's brain

benzodiazepines (allegedly)

you either OD a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the chud

just accept that that whole generation of SNL guys were rightwing jerks from the get-go. EVERY SINGLE ONE

Spade, McDonald, Jackson, Sandler, Lovitz, Miller, etc. = all Republicans

All except Sandler have always seem like miserable misanthropic dbags…

yeah wait sandler?

i suspect Farley would've been right there w them

Idk about Farley or Sandler

Oh wait n/m about Sandler, guess he was/is a repub

actually surprised about Lovitz.

He has some virulent material in his sets nowadays. Real nasty stuff

have always basically loathed him

Sandler big Giuliani donor/pal

just accept that that whole generation of SNL guys were rightwing jerks from the get-go. EVERY SINGLE ONE

Yep, except for Sen. Al Franken (D), though I suppose he was a holdover from the earlier generation. Kevin Nealon seems like a sane person. Not sure about Mike Myers.

Myers is pretty liberal.

I feel like Dana Carvey is but he tiptoes around it

honest to God I'm starting to come around on Lex's fuck comedy thing

Comedy is good, Norm is still funny sometimes, tho I def disagree w him on this

Yeah, Carvey goes on his mild riffs about "millenials" and how you can't say anything anymore without offending someone!

Its funny that comedians dont realize how funny it is when they complain about how what audiences find funny has changed

Like agggh my old jokes dont work anymore, the problem must be ... the audience!

Dgaf about this guy or his shtick but the moth joke is a stone-cold classic imho.

Carvey boohooed all over Poppy Bush's death bcz they bonded over DC's toothless impression.

moth joke is great
I do wonder about pills he seems really smacked out sometimes

what is moth joek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUjIM-GFWhk

Longer segment and less out of sync:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-MJy7w69EU

haha okay yeah that is good

That Shane Gillis fireman sketch... WOW, what could’ve been.

Norm’s “I don’t care about politics” line has always been transparent nonsense and I always expected some over the line outburst eventually.

I still think he’s, like, extremely funny sometimes. Though the embarrassment is real, for this sorta thing and the uh blatant abuse of benzos.

"I don't care about politics" is the refrain of every old white guy right before he launches into whining about Colin Kaepernick or immigration.