the ones that do are 90% anime characters
― mh, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/
Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”“Drink, as in, water?”“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.
Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”
“Drink, as in, water?”
“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
He gives the example of having had some apple cider and subsequently being incapacitated for a month by what he believes was an inflammatory response.
“You were done for a month?”
“Oh yeah, it took me out for a month. It was awful ...”
“Apple cider? What was it doing to you?”
“It produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I seriously mean overwhelming. There’s no way I could’ve lived like that. But see, Mikhaila knew by then that it would probably only last a month.”
“A month? From fucking cider?”
“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”
“What? How is that possible?”
“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”
The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
This guy is such a legit guy
lol yeah that 25 days thing is a baldfaced lie
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Me and when I learned one of my best friends said he was genuinely interested in Jordan Peterson's work.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
is it legal in Canada to punch a weak phony in the throat asking for a friend
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
talk about an angry orchard! oy!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
How is scurvy not a thing with his daughter?
― brownie, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Give it time.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link
one of them is going to switch to straight up dust soon when the meat betrays them
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link
Vancouver/Canada is filled with these types of people with bizarre diets based on pseudoscience, except a lot of them are vegetarian or veganIt’s not surprising the same culture creates an environment where there are loonies that have wacky meat diets and/or give baseless advice
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link
the most interesting part of the atlantic article to me was the psycjosomatic explanation for the daughter’s real and serious symptoms disappearing—that simplifying your diet can drastically eliminate stress.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
they're *lying*. they are not eating only beef. that the atlantic did a remotely credulous article about this just says a lot about the atlantic.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:47 (five years ago) link
I’d believe meat and greens. I can envision someone doing that. Not solely beef, salt and water though.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
And vodka and bourbon of course.
― ryan, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link
shouts to eating like a robber baron
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
does joe rogan deliberately invite people who make him sound like an incredulous voice of reason by comparison?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link
probably, but also he's just not very bright
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link
I listened to one of his podcasts on which he had a reasonable person and a crackpot on together and Rogan angrily, vehemently sided with the crackpot
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link
Joe Rogan has done a good job legitimizing far right crackpot by showing they can hang with him, an affable stoner bro who likes to work out and sometimes, like, get deep and shit
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
i've known some actually pleasant affable stoner bros and i feel like you're doing them a disservice with your comparison.
― macropuente (map), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link
I once went through a ridiculous elimination diet regime a bit like what this Peterson woman has done, though nowhere near as insane as hers (I was reduced to plain meat, pears, plain oats and stuff - I still got all my vitamins in other words)
And in hindsight I frankly think I was convinced psychologically that salicylic acid was "bad" for me. That amines were "bad" for me. That if I ate a few traces of tomato or cheese or wtf ever I was suddenly down with a headache or itchy skin IT WAS ALL FUCKING PSYCHOSOMATIC. I wasted a lot of time, money and energy on utter BS.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link
That's a subject for another thread but boy criticizing other's people diet is never a good look. I can't stand it when people do it to me. It's the kind of shit the Jordan Petersons of this world pulls on other innocent people who would just like to eat whatever they want, I won't play that game.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link
lotta negativity in this thread, you guys gotta lay off the apple cider, it's basically depression juice
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link
I dont want to critique anyone’s diet but the bizarre and intrue apple cider anecdote is clearly and objectively hilarious
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link
I'm sorry but anyone eating red meat and literally nothing else is lying or heading for an early grave, I dont think thats beyond reproach?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link
pointing out that the human body can literally not survive on 25 days of no sleep and eating nothing but red meat is not criticizing someone's diet
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
criticizing people's diets is never cool, unless it's jordan peterson's diet
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
actually it would be cool if he went 25 days without sleep eating nothing but red meat cuz then he would be dead
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
Finally heard this dumb dick's voice thanks to Contrapoints' video and holy shit, the Kermit connection is if anything not made fun of *enough*
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
Not only Kermit but a Canadian Kermit.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_9sXf6s7aw
― dinnerboat, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:09 (five years ago) link
you could probably go a long time just eating red meat without dying. it would be miserable. meat and greens i think would probably not be THAT unsustainable, if you rotated your greens and stuck to leaner meats.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:46 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
just eating meat is totally congruent with his "ideology". pseudo-scientific and masculinist
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
"soy boy" is not insult of choice for his acolytes for no reason. eating a plant-based diet is effeminate in their world
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
Soy isnt great for you tbf. Vegetables are—you need to war vegetables to be optimally healthy this is like the only health consensus.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
Inuits traditionally do fine eating little to no vegetables, although the range of animal protein they eat is far different from what non-Inuits can access
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/e0/a6/cbe0a656e770720db9dc57ea4e3f5db1.jpg
― how's life, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:59 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
inuits traditionally gather and eat as much plant matter as they possibly can and only don't have a culture of growing plants because their environment doesn't allow for cultivation
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
How much can they gather in the winter though? I don't know, but I'm guessing it's pretty minimal?
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:20 (five years ago) link
soy is Fine, Actually
― gbx, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
Inuits also eating fish, which is not red meat
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:24 (five years ago) link
― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:20 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
some plants can be gathered in winter, including some berries which are found through digging in the snow. inuit also use preservation, drying, and fermentation. storing plants and meat for the winter in seal fat or inside a dried seal etc.
their diet was still hugely meat-based obviously. they ate more of a range of meat than mr peterson though obv - fish, caribou, seals
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
(sorry for using the past-tense, referring to the traditional diet which has been impacted by modernity, climate change, etc.)
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
Soy isnt great for you tbf.
Just look at the damage it's done to the short-lived people of Japan.
― Eliza D., Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:40 (five years ago) link
hey y'all buy my book: We're All Gonna Die Anyway So Don't Get Neurotic About Every Single Thing You Eat
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
one of the great sins of soy from the "just eat meat" crowd is that it contains phytoestrogens
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
Drink liquorNot apple ciderMostly bourbon
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link