I liked the rebuttal
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 11 August 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
The all-Jordan Peterson issue of Skeptic Magazine might be the only issue you will ever want to buy, due to it being fucking hilarious cringe gold pic.twitter.com/OJT9tRSJOP— Rebecca Watson (@rebeccawatson) August 15, 2018
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
the intellectual dark web is like the hair club for men. JP's not just a spokesman, he's...
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
aww hell yeah
― ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
Ugh. Shermer and Dawkins remind me of some contrarian-libertarian types I know, who are also theoretically too smart to fall for Peterson's shit and yet somehow not.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
these dudes really want a bunch of nonsensical platitudes with no internal logic, yet hate religion
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
Good observation. I actually don’t think most people were built to be true skeptics/agnostics and will always look for some kind of religion substitute /contro-op
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
I don’t mean that in a judgmental way. It’s good to find an ethos—these guys just picked a bad one that flatters their preconceptions
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
there's a dipshit the local newspaper lets write op-eds and he's the most predictable libertarian/home-schooler type. you know, people who had repressive churchy parents who now think their parents had all the right ideas, but for the wrong reasons. so it's still a bad culture trying to mess with our children, but REASON is the answer instead of religion
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
in a recent op-ed it took him two paragraphs to go from "stop calling everyone racist" to "well, rappers say that word all the time"
I can't even
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
I mean these guys are pretty aligned with fundamental Christians in most ways anyway, especially now that Trump has bridged the gap between fundies and the 4chan incel crowd. watching these dudes all suddenly turn staunchly pro-life and pro-2A has been a trip though
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
JP is religious
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
Skeptic (a physical magazine)
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 16 August 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
Jordan Peterson is the public intellectual our dumbass society deserves.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link
ugh i was in a cab tonite and at a stop light i looked out the window at this huge theater and this motherfucker was on the marquee
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link
for a show a month from now. the WHOLE marquee. "Dr. Jordan Peterson / 12 Rules for Life tour" fuck me running
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:19 (five years ago) link
Random observations
A fairly unique feature of Jordan Peterson's mentions defenders is how many of them don't even have an avi pic.twitter.com/NTwMFbVQDy— Oryx & Solid Snake (@trash_ebooks) August 15, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link
the ones that do are 90% anime characters
― mh, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/
Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”“Drink, as in, water?”“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.
Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”
“Drink, as in, water?”
“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
He gives the example of having had some apple cider and subsequently being incapacitated for a month by what he believes was an inflammatory response.
“You were done for a month?”
“Oh yeah, it took me out for a month. It was awful ...”
“Apple cider? What was it doing to you?”
“It produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I seriously mean overwhelming. There’s no way I could’ve lived like that. But see, Mikhaila knew by then that it would probably only last a month.”
“A month? From fucking cider?”
“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”
“What? How is that possible?”
“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”
The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
This guy is such a legit guy
lol yeah that 25 days thing is a baldfaced lie
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Me and when I learned one of my best friends said he was genuinely interested in Jordan Peterson's work.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
is it legal in Canada to punch a weak phony in the throat asking for a friend
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
talk about an angry orchard! oy!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
How is scurvy not a thing with his daughter?
― brownie, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Give it time.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link
one of them is going to switch to straight up dust soon when the meat betrays them
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link
Vancouver/Canada is filled with these types of people with bizarre diets based on pseudoscience, except a lot of them are vegetarian or veganIt’s not surprising the same culture creates an environment where there are loonies that have wacky meat diets and/or give baseless advice
― F# A# (∞), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:45 (five years ago) link
the most interesting part of the atlantic article to me was the psycjosomatic explanation for the daughter’s real and serious symptoms disappearing—that simplifying your diet can drastically eliminate stress.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:46 (five years ago) link
they're *lying*. they are not eating only beef. that the atlantic did a remotely credulous article about this just says a lot about the atlantic.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:47 (five years ago) link
I’d believe meat and greens. I can envision someone doing that. Not solely beef, salt and water though.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
And vodka and bourbon of course.
― ryan, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link
shouts to eating like a robber baron
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:31 (five years ago) link
does joe rogan deliberately invite people who make him sound like an incredulous voice of reason by comparison?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 August 2018 01:44 (five years ago) link
probably, but also he's just not very bright
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:18 (five years ago) link
I listened to one of his podcasts on which he had a reasonable person and a crackpot on together and Rogan angrily, vehemently sided with the crackpot
― Josefa, Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:22 (five years ago) link
Joe Rogan has done a good job legitimizing far right crackpot by showing they can hang with him, an affable stoner bro who likes to work out and sometimes, like, get deep and shit
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
i've known some actually pleasant affable stoner bros and i feel like you're doing them a disservice with your comparison.
― macropuente (map), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:09 (five years ago) link
I once went through a ridiculous elimination diet regime a bit like what this Peterson woman has done, though nowhere near as insane as hers (I was reduced to plain meat, pears, plain oats and stuff - I still got all my vitamins in other words)
And in hindsight I frankly think I was convinced psychologically that salicylic acid was "bad" for me. That amines were "bad" for me. That if I ate a few traces of tomato or cheese or wtf ever I was suddenly down with a headache or itchy skin IT WAS ALL FUCKING PSYCHOSOMATIC. I wasted a lot of time, money and energy on utter BS.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:32 (five years ago) link
That's a subject for another thread but boy criticizing other's people diet is never a good look. I can't stand it when people do it to me. It's the kind of shit the Jordan Petersons of this world pulls on other innocent people who would just like to eat whatever they want, I won't play that game.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link
lotta negativity in this thread, you guys gotta lay off the apple cider, it's basically depression juice
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 August 2018 03:55 (five years ago) link
I dont want to critique anyone’s diet but the bizarre and intrue apple cider anecdote is clearly and objectively hilarious
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:08 (five years ago) link
I'm sorry but anyone eating red meat and literally nothing else is lying or heading for an early grave, I dont think thats beyond reproach?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 August 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link
pointing out that the human body can literally not survive on 25 days of no sleep and eating nothing but red meat is not criticizing someone's diet
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link
criticizing people's diets is never cool, unless it's jordan peterson's diet
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
actually it would be cool if he went 25 days without sleep eating nothing but red meat cuz then he would be dead
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
Finally heard this dumb dick's voice thanks to Contrapoints' video and holy shit, the Kermit connection is if anything not made fun of *enough*
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
Not only Kermit but a Canadian Kermit.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link