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I don't know why it's so hard for people to grasp that this is a giant country with multifarious local conditions, and you can have a DSA-backed candidate lose a primary in Michigan while at the same time a long-time Dem incumbent DA in St. Louis gets knocked off in a primary challenge from the left and in a week Wisconsin will choose a gov nominee from a pool of candidates who do not at all cleave neatly into "Team Left" and "Team Centrist".

Or maybe it's not that people find that hard to grasp, but rather that if you are writing for Politico and your livelihood depends on people linking your piece in a tweet, your tweet kinda has to be "Who won the day: Team Centrist or Team Left" and it can't be "A lot of different stuff happened in different places." But it kind of sucks that that's the way people's Politico pieces have to read.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)

Jesus brunch is fucking drinking for breakfast its like seinfeld sweatpants saying ‘i give up i have to live in this turgid crowded mess with you guys i might as well feel comfy by getting sloshed and bloated before lunchtime.’


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Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)

Am i projecting too much thsts how i do brunch what

Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)

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The fact that people are feeling inclined to engage in brunch discourse with you is astounding. It’s one of the most obnoxious and privileged food-related traditions imo

— Skogsrå 🌹 (@kelleym_arie) July 5, 2018

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― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it remains incredibly productive of you to critique a thing no one here is doing

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)

It's OK to brunch as long as you order the Alexandria Ocasio-Corteggs

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)

Mimosacialism

Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)

Eggs Corbynedict

El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)

The prolatteriat’s casus bellini was to take over the means of probruncheon

El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)

Bloody Maoria

El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)

Miss, can I get another Bernietini over here? Thanks.

Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)

the centrist vs leftist divide in a nutshell pic.twitter.com/PzgHmd2URp

— Colin Taylor (@ColsBols) August 9, 2018

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)

baffled by the direction this thread went in, but it’s 2018

k3vin k., Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)

I came here to eat smoked salmon hash and disrupt hegemonic capitalism and I'm almost out of smoked salmon hash

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)

Not to worry: Conor Friedersdorf has advice for you poor people considering democratic socialism.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)

jfc he quoted Hayek

Eliza D., Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)

i live in portland, you will take our brunch when you pry it from our cold dead fingers

well not "cold" it's a hundred fucking degrees here, it's a figure of speech

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)

jfc he quoted Hayek

― Eliza D.

was it her latest twitter selfie?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)

NEWS: DNC Chairman Tom Perez has proposed a resolution to reverse the Democrats' two-month-old ban on fossil fuel donations. https://t.co/4sSmHFxsv3

— Alexander Kaufman (@AlexCKaufman) August 10, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)

also, Obama is said to be a regular reader of Friedersdork

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)

Tom Perez, the man who was no different from Keith Ellison (and thus it was crucial that he be put up against Keith Ellison).

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)

tom, fucking what

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 10 August 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)

yeah, all the right people fell for that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)

Corey Robin thread / FB post on unions, strikes, Cuomo and Cynthia Nixon

Before Shabbat begins, and the reign of peace takes over, at least for 24 hours, I need to say: this article makes me furious. A two-tweet thread of screen shots explains why. https://t.co/1F3klcj5uy

— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) August 10, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)

I don't know why it's so hard for people to grasp that this is a giant country with multifarious local conditions, and you can have a DSA-backed candidate lose a primary in Michigan while at the same time a long-time Dem incumbent DA in St. Louis gets knocked off in a primary challenge from the left and in a week Wisconsin will choose a gov nominee from a pool of candidates who do not at all cleave neatly into "Team Left" and "Team Centrist".

Or maybe it's not that people find that hard to grasp, but rather that if you are writing for Politico and your livelihood depends on people linking your piece in a tweet, your tweet kinda has to be "Who won the day: Team Centrist or Team Left" and it can't be "A lot of different stuff happened in different places." But it kind of sucks that that's the way people's Politico pieces have to read.

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, August 9, 2018 3:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I was discussing this a few weeks ago on this thread and I came to the conclusion that journalists wedging the dems, playing to our anxiety that they may fuck up again or that the other side of liberalism might win it all, is to be ignored up until the dems take back power.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

Think of how that “broadening” would sometimes work. If a majority elected a populist demagogue like Donald Trump—which very nearly happened in 2016 (when he lost the popular vote) and may well happen in 2020—he would preside over not only our government, but also over our social and economic realms. The effect would be to consolidate power, not to disperse it, as the author ahistorically expects.

Every leftist has been arguing for the exact opposite for the what? 50 years? More? And he still doesn't get it? Not a single moment has the DSA proposed more broadened power for the President. How do he gets to that conclusion? Even as a response to the quote it makes no freaking sense. It would just mean more co-ops, more unions, less lobbying from publicly traded companies, and more input from grass root organisations. It means less buybacks of shares, and more control over local concerns like how municipalities are organized, how corporations have an effect on people's lives etc. I understand it might not be your preferred course of action to make a better world. But to be so wilfully ignorant about what the left expects of society is so stupid.

His example with birth control is even more ridiculous. Universal health care means universal health care.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)

I realize there's a contradiction in my last two posts.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)

A friend who considers herself liberal shared this thing.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)

An interesting development in Washington State.

Democratic challenger Sarah Smith surged past Republican Doug Basler in new vote counts Friday, setting up a contest with longtime Democratic U.S. Rep. Adam Smith this fall.

Sarah Smith, a 30-year-old first-time candidate, solidified a second-place finish in the top-two primary in the 9th Congressional District.

While thousands of votes have yet to be counted, a Seattle Times analysis projects Sarah Smith will advance to the general election. To catch her, Basler would have to roughly double his share of the remaining votes, which often trend liberal in the Seattle area.

Rep. Smith, D-Bellevue, took by far the largest share of primary votes, with about 49 percent. Sarah Smith had about 26.5 percent, leading Basler by about 2,600 votes. A day earlier, she had led Basler by fewer than 200 votes.

“We put in the work and it was incredible to see it happen,” an elated Sarah Smith said in an interview Friday, crediting a scrappy, volunteer-driven campaign for her primary showing. “We’re proving you can be a viable competitive campaign without taking corporate cash.”

She said the fall matchup with Rep. Smith will give voters a real choice in the Democratic district, allowing people to “read platforms and policies and vote their conscience” without worrying about losing the seat to a Republican. Her campaign has drawn comparisons to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who made national headlines in June with an upset win over longtime Rep. Joe Crowley in a Democratic primary in New York.

Rep. Smith, 53, has already expected to face his fellow Democrat this fall. He said in an interview Thursday he was not intimidated by an intraparty challenge, noting he’d previously faced primary challengers from the left.

He said he was in “very, very solid shape” with Democratic voters coming out of the primary and predicted his challenger, a democratic socialist in the vein of Bernie Sanders, would have a hard time picking up independent or Republican votes in the district.

In addition to making an issue of Rep. Smith’s corporate PAC donations, Sarah Smith said she’d contrast her anti-war activism with Rep. Smith’s more pro-military stances. He’s the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee and in position to chair the panel if the party takes the House majority this fall.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)

That lead over the republican will hold; the consistent trend with ballot counting out here is “late liberals”.

faculty w1fe (silby), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)

xxp god I love it when ppl go straight for the "human nature" argument. It makes spotting the assholes so much simpler.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 August 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

Simon, are you referring to the piece Alfred shared? I hated it too.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 11 August 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)

Yep, that one.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 August 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)

Also...

how is a district to be confused with a nation-state?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 August 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)

Wow.

Current average ages in the U.S. House
Democratic leaders 72
GOP leaders 48
Ranking committee Dems 68
GOP committee chairs 59 https://t.co/AwDkJKTKs4

— Kurt Andersen (@KBAndersen) August 11, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 11 August 2018 20:58 (seven years ago)

gop age difference is bc of tea party, right? and dems in the minority are the solidly dem seats that have years of incumbency?

21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 11 August 2018 21:03 (seven years ago)

yeah i'd be interested in seeing that in comparison with historical numbers for in-party vs out-party - seems plausible enough that when one party takes a hit, their members who survive are more likely to be senior ones with a lot of incumbency advantages that helped them hold on.

mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 11 August 2018 21:53 (seven years ago)

Hawai’i primary is today, right?

Go Kaniela Ing!

@KanielaIng voicing solidarity with the Palestinian people. “Until every one of us is free, none of us are.” #FreePalestine #FightForAloha pic.twitter.com/VM0mkI4sqd

— Neurologically Diverse Proletariat Asians 🌹🤖🎤 (@karaokecomputer) August 10, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 11 August 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)

He lost very very badly, and to a complete prick, too.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 12 August 2018 13:18 (seven years ago)

Keith Ellison has been accused of domestic violence. AFAIK, he has yet to comment/respond.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 12 August 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

he has

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/08/12/abuse-allegation-made-against-keith-ellison-denies-attorney-general-election

He said he was in a "long-term relationship" that ended in 2016 but he denied the allegation of abuse.

"I still care deeply for her well-being," he wrote. "This video does not exist because I never behaved in this way, and any characterization otherwise is false."

there are reasons not to release the video but if there is some, releasing it would be pretty decisive.

j., Sunday, 12 August 2018 20:22 (seven years ago)

long statement from monahan elaborating on the existing account

http://www.fox9.com/news/karen-monahan-woman-who-accused-rep-ellison-of-domestic-abuse-releases-statement

seems to have lots of stuff in it for reporters to poke through at least

j., Monday, 13 August 2018 03:18 (seven years ago)

That statement is definitely illuminating

Dan I., Monday, 13 August 2018 06:04 (seven years ago)

It’s definitely long.

faculty w1fe (silby), Monday, 13 August 2018 06:17 (seven years ago)

Gallup: “For the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism.” https://t.co/poLAv5IsYt

— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) August 13, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 13 August 2018 14:43 (seven years ago)

A friend who considers herself liberal shared this thing.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, August 11, 2018 3:13 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-kwYXhXUAAuUkL.jpg

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 August 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)

twas ever thus

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 13 August 2018 16:56 (seven years ago)

in fairness, the reverse is no less accurate.

evol j, Monday, 13 August 2018 16:59 (seven years ago)

fascists hate socialists more than liberals? totally

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 August 2018 17:02 (seven years ago)

in fairness, the reverse is no less accurate.

socialists turn out to vote (and even volunteer) for liberals all the goddamn time, come on now

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 13 August 2018 17:04 (seven years ago)

disappointing but expected about kanela & el-sayed both, obviously, though as has been pointed out elsewhere, these campaigns have been conceived of and run as movement campaigns, galvanizing the public and shifting the political weather of their own primaries--and by those measures they remain undeniable successes.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 13 August 2018 17:05 (seven years ago)


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