a revolution without brunch is not a revolution worth having
― the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:40 (seven years ago)
i guess tlaib is replacing john conyers who was also a dsa guy, but it's not nothing!
Oh yes let’s pretend it’s a class thing, sure.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:41 (seven years ago)
Whet’s funny/cringey about the “brunch meme” is it somehow transitioned from a ill-conceived way of expressing a maybe valid critique of political engagement into “no it’s literally about brunch itself now”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:43 (seven years ago)
wtf are you talking about
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:45 (seven years ago)
Also very cool to blame restaraunt goers and not owners in addition to the meme’s initial subtext of “it’s good that Trump won because people are more politically engaged so maybeit’s not that bad that we didn’t do enough to stop it”
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:46 (seven years ago)
eggs benetrump
― Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:48 (seven years ago)
on the subject of brunch, gender and class
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/05/09/398832815/taking-mom-out-for-brunch-it-s-kind-of-a-feminist-tradition
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)
(the article is much better than the url implies)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:01 (seven years ago)
ok, by "brunch" I was trying to signify professional class people who wish we had a centrist in office so we wouldn't have to be bothered by politics and they could go back to enjoying their lifestyle. Those same people are eager to put the new "socialist insurgency" to bed for the same reasons, hence all the articles in WaPo and The Hill and Politico and those types of publications, which I don't think are disproportionately written by women, but if it's no longer acceptable to use "brunch" as a signifier of anything because it is perceived as an attack on women (and apparently moms and also "restaurant goers") I'm fine with using something else.
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, August 9, 2018 5:43 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
incredibly productive of you to critique a thing no one here is doing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:05 (seven years ago)
I don't think brunch is gendered.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:13 (seven years ago)
eggs genderdict
― Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:17 (seven years ago)
That article posted about brunch was good; I didn't know. I thought the pejorative about brunch these days is a stand-in for white woman feminism which is basically what Fedora is summarizing above.
― Yerac, Thursday, 9 August 2018 18:32 (seven years ago)
won't somebody think of the brunch itself
― mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)
The fact that people are feeling inclined to engage in brunch discourse with you is astounding. It’s one of the most obnoxious and privileged food-related traditions imo— Skogsrå 🌹 (@kelleym_arie) July 5, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:05 (seven years ago)
when is brunch?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
Yeah, when I was coming up we went directly from the breakfast table to the salt mines 25/8/367, no time for brunch ever.
You had a breakfast table? La dee dah! We just ate cold grubs off the dirt floor of the hovel.
You had grubs? Luxury!
etc.
― Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:09 (seven years ago)
I don't know why it's so hard for people to grasp that this is a giant country with multifarious local conditions, and you can have a DSA-backed candidate lose a primary in Michigan while at the same time a long-time Dem incumbent DA in St. Louis gets knocked off in a primary challenge from the left and in a week Wisconsin will choose a gov nominee from a pool of candidates who do not at all cleave neatly into "Team Left" and "Team Centrist".
Or maybe it's not that people find that hard to grasp, but rather that if you are writing for Politico and your livelihood depends on people linking your piece in a tweet, your tweet kinda has to be "Who won the day: Team Centrist or Team Left" and it can't be "A lot of different stuff happened in different places." But it kind of sucks that that's the way people's Politico pieces have to read.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:16 (seven years ago)
Jesus brunch is fucking drinking for breakfast its like seinfeld sweatpants saying ‘i give up i have to live in this turgid crowded mess with you guys i might as well feel comfy by getting sloshed and bloated before lunchtime.’Smilemoji
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
Am i projecting too much thsts how i do brunch what
― Hunt3r, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
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― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it remains incredibly productive of you to critique a thing no one here is doing
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:13 (seven years ago)
It's OK to brunch as long as you order the Alexandria Ocasio-Corteggs
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:19 (seven years ago)
Mimosacialism
― Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:26 (seven years ago)
Eggs Corbynedict
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:47 (seven years ago)
The prolatteriat’s casus bellini was to take over the means of probruncheon
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
Bloody Maoria
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:55 (seven years ago)
Miss, can I get another Bernietini over here? Thanks.
― Pirate's booty call (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:26 (seven years ago)
the centrist vs leftist divide in a nutshell pic.twitter.com/PzgHmd2URp— Colin Taylor (@ColsBols) August 9, 2018
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:29 (seven years ago)
baffled by the direction this thread went in, but it’s 2018
― k3vin k., Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:35 (seven years ago)
I came here to eat smoked salmon hash and disrupt hegemonic capitalism and I'm almost out of smoked salmon hash
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)
Not to worry: Conor Friedersdorf has advice for you poor people considering democratic socialism.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:54 (seven years ago)
jfc he quoted Hayek
― Eliza D., Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:13 (seven years ago)
i live in portland, you will take our brunch when you pry it from our cold dead fingers
well not "cold" it's a hundred fucking degrees here, it's a figure of speech
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:31 (seven years ago)
― Eliza D.
was it her latest twitter selfie?
NEWS: DNC Chairman Tom Perez has proposed a resolution to reverse the Democrats' two-month-old ban on fossil fuel donations. https://t.co/4sSmHFxsv3— Alexander Kaufman (@AlexCKaufman) August 10, 2018
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:32 (seven years ago)
also, Obama is said to be a regular reader of Friedersdork
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:34 (seven years ago)
Tom Perez, the man who was no different from Keith Ellison (and thus it was crucial that he be put up against Keith Ellison).
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:44 (seven years ago)
tom, fucking what
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 10 August 2018 19:46 (seven years ago)
yeah, all the right people fell for that
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:47 (seven years ago)
Corey Robin thread / FB post on unions, strikes, Cuomo and Cynthia Nixon
Before Shabbat begins, and the reign of peace takes over, at least for 24 hours, I need to say: this article makes me furious. A two-tweet thread of screen shots explains why. https://t.co/1F3klcj5uy— corey robin (@CoreyRobin) August 10, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:51 (seven years ago)
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, August 9, 2018 3:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah I was discussing this a few weeks ago on this thread and I came to the conclusion that journalists wedging the dems, playing to our anxiety that they may fuck up again or that the other side of liberalism might win it all, is to be ignored up until the dems take back power.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)
Think of how that “broadening” would sometimes work. If a majority elected a populist demagogue like Donald Trump—which very nearly happened in 2016 (when he lost the popular vote) and may well happen in 2020—he would preside over not only our government, but also over our social and economic realms. The effect would be to consolidate power, not to disperse it, as the author ahistorically expects.
Every leftist has been arguing for the exact opposite for the what? 50 years? More? And he still doesn't get it? Not a single moment has the DSA proposed more broadened power for the President. How do he gets to that conclusion? Even as a response to the quote it makes no freaking sense. It would just mean more co-ops, more unions, less lobbying from publicly traded companies, and more input from grass root organisations. It means less buybacks of shares, and more control over local concerns like how municipalities are organized, how corporations have an effect on people's lives etc. I understand it might not be your preferred course of action to make a better world. But to be so wilfully ignorant about what the left expects of society is so stupid.
His example with birth control is even more ridiculous. Universal health care means universal health care.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:04 (seven years ago)
I realize there's a contradiction in my last two posts.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:12 (seven years ago)
A friend who considers herself liberal shared this thing.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)
An interesting development in Washington State.
Democratic challenger Sarah Smith surged past Republican Doug Basler in new vote counts Friday, setting up a contest with longtime Democratic U.S. Rep. Adam Smith this fall.Sarah Smith, a 30-year-old first-time candidate, solidified a second-place finish in the top-two primary in the 9th Congressional District.While thousands of votes have yet to be counted, a Seattle Times analysis projects Sarah Smith will advance to the general election. To catch her, Basler would have to roughly double his share of the remaining votes, which often trend liberal in the Seattle area.Rep. Smith, D-Bellevue, took by far the largest share of primary votes, with about 49 percent. Sarah Smith had about 26.5 percent, leading Basler by about 2,600 votes. A day earlier, she had led Basler by fewer than 200 votes.“We put in the work and it was incredible to see it happen,” an elated Sarah Smith said in an interview Friday, crediting a scrappy, volunteer-driven campaign for her primary showing. “We’re proving you can be a viable competitive campaign without taking corporate cash.”She said the fall matchup with Rep. Smith will give voters a real choice in the Democratic district, allowing people to “read platforms and policies and vote their conscience” without worrying about losing the seat to a Republican. Her campaign has drawn comparisons to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who made national headlines in June with an upset win over longtime Rep. Joe Crowley in a Democratic primary in New York.Rep. Smith, 53, has already expected to face his fellow Democrat this fall. He said in an interview Thursday he was not intimidated by an intraparty challenge, noting he’d previously faced primary challengers from the left.He said he was in “very, very solid shape” with Democratic voters coming out of the primary and predicted his challenger, a democratic socialist in the vein of Bernie Sanders, would have a hard time picking up independent or Republican votes in the district.In addition to making an issue of Rep. Smith’s corporate PAC donations, Sarah Smith said she’d contrast her anti-war activism with Rep. Smith’s more pro-military stances. He’s the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee and in position to chair the panel if the party takes the House majority this fall.
Sarah Smith, a 30-year-old first-time candidate, solidified a second-place finish in the top-two primary in the 9th Congressional District.
While thousands of votes have yet to be counted, a Seattle Times analysis projects Sarah Smith will advance to the general election. To catch her, Basler would have to roughly double his share of the remaining votes, which often trend liberal in the Seattle area.
Rep. Smith, D-Bellevue, took by far the largest share of primary votes, with about 49 percent. Sarah Smith had about 26.5 percent, leading Basler by about 2,600 votes. A day earlier, she had led Basler by fewer than 200 votes.
“We put in the work and it was incredible to see it happen,” an elated Sarah Smith said in an interview Friday, crediting a scrappy, volunteer-driven campaign for her primary showing. “We’re proving you can be a viable competitive campaign without taking corporate cash.”
She said the fall matchup with Rep. Smith will give voters a real choice in the Democratic district, allowing people to “read platforms and policies and vote their conscience” without worrying about losing the seat to a Republican. Her campaign has drawn comparisons to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who made national headlines in June with an upset win over longtime Rep. Joe Crowley in a Democratic primary in New York.
Rep. Smith, 53, has already expected to face his fellow Democrat this fall. He said in an interview Thursday he was not intimidated by an intraparty challenge, noting he’d previously faced primary challengers from the left.
He said he was in “very, very solid shape” with Democratic voters coming out of the primary and predicted his challenger, a democratic socialist in the vein of Bernie Sanders, would have a hard time picking up independent or Republican votes in the district.
In addition to making an issue of Rep. Smith’s corporate PAC donations, Sarah Smith said she’d contrast her anti-war activism with Rep. Smith’s more pro-military stances. He’s the ranking Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee and in position to chair the panel if the party takes the House majority this fall.
― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:14 (seven years ago)
That lead over the republican will hold; the consistent trend with ballot counting out here is “late liberals”.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Saturday, 11 August 2018 15:40 (seven years ago)
xxp god I love it when ppl go straight for the "human nature" argument. It makes spotting the assholes so much simpler.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 August 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)
Simon, are you referring to the piece Alfred shared? I hated it too.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 11 August 2018 17:30 (seven years ago)
Yep, that one.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 11 August 2018 18:00 (seven years ago)