also i hope it is set at alien academy
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link
do you mean the lumen of a person's gut???
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
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― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link
What's that company that makes knockoff movies to coincide with releases? I have this theory that the only way to stop this revival madness is to saturate the market with so many degraded versions that any public appetite for them would be obliterated. ALIEN FANFICTION TO THE RESCUE
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link
x-post
It could be like a more tragic Top Gun, where a fresh young facehugger falls in love with his instructor, a human woman. She dies in an accident, but a hundred years later he meets her great-graddaughter in the events of the first Alien.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link
that granddaughter? veronica cartright.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Legally Blonde Alien, with Reese Witherspoon
When a blonde sorority queen alien is dumped by her boyfriend, she decides to follow him to his planet to get him back and, once there, learns she has more legal savvy than she ever imagined.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link
Alien Brockovich, with Julia Roberts
An unemployed single alien mother becomes a legal assistant and almost single-handedly brings down a global power company accused of polluting a planet's water supply.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Wasn't that the plot of Erin Brockovich?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
It's a tribute script.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
How's this for high-concept: A remake of Predator starring the Alien as Predator.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link
re: alien brockovic -- I was making bad joke about Julia Roberts looking not quite human, having second mouth.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Would pay to see Ordinary Aliens dir. by Redford.
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Chestburst On The 4th Of July
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link
AVPVSW
Alien vs Predator vs Sand Worms (from Dune)
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link
all human roles portrayed by Tracy Morgan
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Who won when Alien fought Predator?
the predalien, duh
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
i would like to see a movie about an alien-human war done in the style of the thin red line
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Why is it that every movie franchise is all about remakes and reboots these days? Doesn't anybody believe in sequels anymore? Personally, I would've wanted to know what happened after the ending of Alien 4, but apparently no one else cares.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
omg yes
that is an xpost
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
tho pop culture is so weird these days that if someone told me that terrence malick was making the next alien movie i would believe it. i don't know if anything in popcult has the power to surprise me anymore.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
will whoever the female lead in this remake wear as ridiculously small panties as Ripley in the remakes denouement?
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:50 (fifteen years ago) link
are you asking me?
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
I don't know anyone else on ILX we could ask!
― resistance is feudal (WmC), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm asking the universe. plus slocki.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
slocki, sloggi - ok, makes sense.
― StanM, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
ok well... i might as well just tell you. the answer is yes!
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link
terrence malick is directing the reboot of the first wives club franchise
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i believe it, thank you for telling me true new information
― s1ocki, Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
hollywood officially sucks from now on
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Thursday, 28 May 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh for fuck's sake. [Shoots self]
― James Morrison, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:21 (fifteen years ago) link
im not even like a huge alien guy but this is about the most retarded shit ever.
on paper.
five years ago i'd have at least made an effort to say 'hey maybe it'll *exceed* the original'.
but it's a pretty basic story that can't be fucked with, and no-one would get sued if they made a different movie that involved an alien.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:26 (fifteen years ago) link
(Not That) Alien
― Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link
industry/business people, do you know if there's some legal reason like company's rights to the franchise expire if they don't keep churning out remakes? I remember there was some bogus fantastic 4 movie made for some weird business-related reason.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Trading Places with a Wall Street player and an Alien switching roles.
― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link
Wall Street starring Alien in Gordon Gecko role (and one that pops out of Darryl Hannah at the end).
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:06 (fourteen years ago) link
The fact that Rodriguez is going to remake Predator as Predators gave me major lols. A long running and rubbish joke I have with some friends is to question whether any sequel or remake will be called the name of the original film pluralised. If pluralisation doesn't work I ask if it will be the original title with "another" appended to the start and if that doesn't work I ask if it will be called the original with "again" at the end of it.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
So presumably the sequel to Predators will be Another Predators again: the virus takes Manhattan.
― languid samuel l. jackson (jim), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Home Alone where the McCauley Culkin role is actually a young alien who discovers its powers while fending off would-be robbers.
― giving a shit when it isn't your turn to give a shit (sarahel), Friday, 29 May 2009 00:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/2189/youvegotmail.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Friday, 29 May 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
<3<3<3
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link
my new desktop background
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 28 May 2009 23:34 (Yesterday) Permalink
ha, yeah Roger Corman made that one! supposedly bootlegs of it were sold at comic conventions for years.
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:35 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.teako170.com/ffmovie.html
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link
That's insane. Has anyone here seen it?
― cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Friday, 29 May 2009 03:18 (fourteen years ago) link
it can't be much worse than the one that actually came out
― Vokuhila (latebloomer), Friday, 29 May 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I think this is true, and comic book superheroes is a good example. The actual superhero comic books are protected by copyright laws, and at the moment it's still a couple of decades before even the oldest of them fall into public domain. (However, apparently works copyrighted in the US before 1964 had to have their copyright renewed during the 28th year of their copyright term, otherwise they fell into the public domain. This has happened with at least some comics, records, and movies.) The names of superheroes are trademarks though, and trademark law is quite different from copyright. In order for a company to have the rigth to exclusive use of a trademark, the trademark has to be in active use. If the trademark isn't in active use for a certain period of time (in the US this is 5 years), it is considered public domain, and someone else can then register it. This, I think, is the reason DC comics has continuosly kept churning out Wonder Woman comic books throughout the decades, even during times when Wonder Woman has been quite unpopular. They don't want loose the trademark "Wonder Woman", so they have to have it in active use even if it means putting out comics that don't sell much. I'm not totally sure about this, but I assume the names "Alien" and "Predator" are similarly trademarked, so the same would apply to them as to Wonder Woman. I think there's been longer than a 5 year gap between Alien and Predator movies, but the various Alien and Predator comic books, books, and toys must've kept the trademarks in active use.
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 May 2009 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link
With 'Wonder Woman', too, I believe there was something in the creator (who was a bit of a mad genius)'s contract saying that if she didn't keep being published by DC Comics, the rights would revert to him and his family.
― James Morrison, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Are you sure about that? Because I can't imagine that back then, decades before the rise of creator-owned comics, any comic publisher would sign a contract like that. In those days pretty much every comic creator signed the copyright away to the company publishing the comic, which lead to cases like Siegel's and Shuster's famous 25-year legal battle to be recognized as the creators of Superman.
― Tuomas, Friday, 29 May 2009 11:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Wonder Woman is weird, though, like it was created by someone who wrote child psychology books as their main line or something like that. I guess I could just look it up...
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 May 2009 12:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I think the fundamentals of the alien are sound, the problem with most of the sequels is that they either lean too hard toward mythology (who cares?) or, more commonly, they're just astoundingly stupid/silly. The "Predator" movies, for example, are actually all mostly good. First is great, second OK, "Predators" not bad (iirc), "Prey" is good. Only outlier (crossovers aside) is "The Predator," which is terrible. "Alien" movies are suited to the same simple more or less horror movie/action model: drop alien in with people/drop people in with alien. I suppose the last couple Ridley movies get points for novelty, since the whole time you're asking yourself what the fuck is going on and why, at least when you're not rolling your eyes at how amazingly dumb the characters are.
Then again, thinking out loud, the alien franchise quickly backed itself into a corner, because the alien (even one) is simply too powerful an enemy. The awesome "Alien: Isolation" game got it right: you don't beat the alien, you *avoid* the alien while doing other shit, like fixing the ship or outsmarting robots.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 12:10 (one year ago) link
i may have missed one of the crossover films but am i right that there still is no 'Alien on the loose on Earth' movie? it would be so mega
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:11 (one year ago) link
Yeah, the second AvP film was basically that. I'm one of the only people on earth who thought it was decent (if deeply flawed). But you should probably go with the consensus opinion that it's a cinematic unflushed toilet.
― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
= better than prometheus :D
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:23 (one year ago) link
i’m going to invite you all to a double feature of Solo and Prometheus and explain in a very irritating voice exactly why each one is good, while we’re watching it
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:27 (one year ago) link
I never saw "Solo," but if it went the way of "Willow" on Disney+, would anyone notice?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:32 (one year ago) link
Well I'd have to find something else to do at 11pm every night of the week
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:35 (one year ago) link
You could watch "Free Solo," alone, while drinking beer from a red Solo cup.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 May 2023 13:40 (one year ago) link
Still impressed that stupid Prometheus was basically the exact same plot as stupid Alien vs Predator, just with alien planet instead of Antarctica, and weird playdo men instead of Predators. Otherwise all the same (alien temple, messianic Weyland, fuckwit scientists, weirdly invulnerable female lead, etc).
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 25 May 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link
this fathead futzing around with origin stories and metaphysics when we could STILL HAVE THIS
The full-grown aliens were originally going to be transparent and their heads full of maggots. This was too hard to pull off though. And, originally, the alien Giger designed had eyes. He asked for the eyes to be removed when the effects team started building it.26/38 pic.twitter.com/j2LzIQ9E2Z— All The Right Movies (@ATRightMovies) May 25, 2023
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:48 (one year ago) link
original is 44 today, and this thread is grebt: i wanna see the robert altman version
― mark s, Thursday, 25 May 2023 19:49 (one year ago) link
Alternately, Tarkovsky.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:17 (one year ago) link
Alien with eyes definitely paved the way for his ELP cover:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg/220px-ELP_-_Brain_Salad_Surgery.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:29 (one year ago) link
This cover was from 1974, though!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 May 2023 20:59 (one year ago) link
Oh shit, so ELP invented the alien! I may have been thinking of the Debbie Harry album.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link
Hahaha
The Alien was spawned on Love Beach.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 25 May 2023 21:07 (one year ago) link
they used the skull/eye socket version in alien: resurrection! pretty well, imo. the scene where the more-human alien is sniffing ripley/mom is creepy
― mh, Friday, 26 May 2023 04:36 (one year ago) link
There’s a TV series of Alien being (verrrrrrrry slowly) made, which caused a pause on any idiotic film projects for the moment.
There's a film, directed by Fede Alvarez, shooting as we speak. From the little info there is about it, it does sound like a Prey-style b-movie take
― Number None, Friday, 26 May 2023 10:30 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2edS2FlrK4
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:56 (seven months ago) link