Avengers: Infinity War

you'd think making sic IA & fussy would be hilarious but it never is

It's true, everyone from Cape Cod sounds exactly the same as everyone from Houston.

No, they sound "American."

Suggesting that Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce and Joel Edgerton and Geoffrey Rush never get to act with Australian accents is completely bonkers.

Sorry, I was talking about mainstream Hollywood movies. Obviously all of the above Aussie's have acted plenty with their native accents.

Aussies.

you'd think making sic IA & fussy would be hilarious but it never is

― El Tomboto, Friday, August 3, 2018 9:33 AM (four minutes ago)

No, they sound "American."

But the accent is "so specific"

there are some hints that Gamora revealing the location of the Soul Stone was a part of bigger plan by her to defeat Thanos; either she provided him with a credible forgery, or her soul was transported inside the Stone, where she can control it. The sequel will show whether this theory is true.

I thought Gamora thought she had Thanos cornered because "he didn't love anything" so therefore he couldn't sacrifice what he loved to get the stone. but unfortunately, there was one person that he loved who happened to be right there. idk if she really had a plan beyond wanting to save her friends.

We'll have to see if Blanchett gets a chance to play Hela in a second appearance

It'd give her a second chance to reprise a character with a British-style accent, like that time she played Queen Elizabeth and it was popular enough to spawn a sequel

voodoo chili otm, not sure what is up with this forgery take

I don't know enough about Australian accents to know how much or if they vary from place to place within the country. I'm sure when actors are doing a generic American accent they often must have some accent in mind, even if it's not recognizably regional like New England or Southern. I assume it's just a general flat accent a la many newscasters.

My favorite example of Aussies losing their accents is in that awesome twisty thriller "Triangle." The filmmakers are Australian, the entire cast is Australian, it's filmed in Australia, it's mostly set on a boat in the middle of the ocean and when it's not it's set in an unspecified (iirc) seaside town. And yet everyone acts with an American accent.

The director of Triangle is British.

I still haven't researched it but I'm pretty sure Dr. Strange and Dr. House had the same dialect coach because somehow Cumberbatch and Hugh Laurie end up sounding like their characters grew up on the same street

the crossover we truly deserve imo

So does anyone know why Brolin chose to play Thanos with an Australian accent? Weird choice, imo.

Benedict Cumberbatch sounds exactly like Dennis Quaid when doing his American accent in Dr. Strange.

I could buy that

it's funny to me that "american accent" means you sound kind of gravelly

Triangle director being British doesn't really change my point, but thank you for the correction.

xpost Clearly Doctor Strange and Doctor House picked up the accent as an affectation when they roomed together in medical school.

it's funny to me that "american accent" means you sound kind of gravelly

― mh, Friday, August 3, 2018 3:06 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the batman accent

Just like the white accent = pinching your nose so you sound congested

we do sound like that though

I guess my daughter saw a TV ad for this somewhere because last night she asked me to summarize the story arc of the Infinity War and ugh I had to dredge up my half-remembered memories of various 70s/80s comics. Plus an aside that Thanos is a shameless ripoff of Darkseid.

I'd never heard of Triangle but

The actors, all of them Australian and New Zealand (sic), use American accents as the film is set in Florida.

Yeah, but it's nominally Florida at best. 95% of it takes place on a boat on the open deas. And when it is on land there are no signifiers that it is Florida or any other place. Nor does it matter.

open seas

open deas... nuts

Loving this detour.

Would like like de-tour of deez...

xpost I laughed

the detour ends up in Florida iirc

Nor does it matter.

it definitely doesn't matter, but you knew four things about this movie and three of them apparently aren't true

Oh, come on, my point still stands. It's a *British* director making a movie set on a boat starring an all Aussie *or Kiwi* cast, all of whom use generic American accents because it is nominally set in Florida. But they could have set it anywhere without changing a thing but the accents. Or hey, maybe not!

Benedict Cumberbatch sounds exactly like Dennis Quaid when doing his American accent in Dr. Strange.
― com rad erry red flag (f. hazel), Friday, August 3

I can definitely see that though he said before he was going for a Harrison Ford imitation. I didn’t like Strange in his own movie at all but liked him a lot more in the ensemble here.

I hope half of the next movie is just Captain Marvel and Wong

wong needs his own movie, really

actually maybe a wong / shuri teamup is what we need

Kinda can't wait to see what wackadoo Avengers/(insert team name) configurations the future holds based around characters that become surprise fan favorites.

Wong, Shuri, Rocket, Groot, Korg, Miek, and Aunt May are: The Champions

And the drum-playing ant.

there are some hints that Gamora revealing the location of the Soul Stone was a part of bigger plan by her to defeat Thanos; either she provided him with a credible forgery, or her soul was transported inside the Stone, where she can control it. The sequel will show whether this theory is true.

I thought Gamora thought she had Thanos cornered because "he didn't love anything" so therefore he couldn't sacrifice what he loved to get the stone. but unfortunately, there was one person that he loved who happened to be right there. idk if she really had a plan beyond wanting to save her friends.

Like I said, my theory is that Gamora planned all this, possibly with Nebula. The biggest clue is that after Thanos sacrifices Gamora, we never see how he actually acquires the Soul Stone. He just wakes up on a beach with the Stone already in his possession, and it seems like he doesn't know what exactly happened either. (Also, the whole "you must sacrifice someone you love to get the Stone" setup is a bit weird... Who put the Soul Stone there and why? Why didn't they take it themselves?)

And during the rest of the movie, we never see Thanos use the Soul Stone. Plus, of course, this movie was named a comic book story where the good guys fool the bad guy thinking he has acquired all the six Infinity Gems, when they'd actually switched one of them with well-made forgery. So that's why I think they might be doing something similar here.

That's not what happens in the IG comic.

he "uses" the soul stone at the end when he encounters young Gamora

iirc Thanos couldn't ~snap~ without collecting the full set of licensed MARVEL Infinity Stones(tm)

F'realz.

The actual way he was defeated was Warlock snatching the Gauntlet off his limp purple mitt after his consciousness went all cosmic. Which, iirc, was facilitated by the fact that Warlock's time spent inside the Soul Gem rendered him more or less imperceptible to Thanos. So maybe look out for a similar status shift in Gamora once she inevitably escapes with the help of Pip the Troll.

Will Ant Man save the day from the Quantum Realm?

That's not what happens in the IG comic.

No, but that's what happens in the Infinity War comic (the sequel to IG), as I said. I know this is mostly an adaptation of IG, but there's nothing to stop them from taking elements from IW too (besides the name, obviously). I don't think they want the plot to go exactly as in IG, because that would be too spoilery for everyone who's read the comics.

Also, in IG Thanos's defeat is said to be ultimately caused by his subconscious realisation that he's not worthy of being a god, which wouldn't really work in the movie, because in the comic he does truly grave omnipotence, whereas in the movie the Stones are just tools for him to reach his Malthusian goal, not a gateway to godhood.

I got the impression that the soul stone has a will, and that the challenge was to satisfy it. Not a person who put the stone there -- the stone itself

i think i liked this? i did enjoy the feeling of rushed desperation. and that successive heroes kept failing, for the same reason. even thor at the end? guess the implication is that he needs his moment of revenge, out of love for his brother, instead of going for the head. starlord losing his shit right at the wrong moment was the least dramatically satisfying turn out of all of these.

i'm not a comics reader; i was trying to piece together what the upcoming movies are and got *really* confused -- i had no idea there was a marvel and a DC captain marvel?

like i'd seen a trailer for shazam and remembered what that hero is called, but then i'm seeing all this stuff about brie larson and a digitally de-aged sam jackson and was like damn that movie is gonna be a mess

djimon honsou is in both btw

i had no idea there was a marvel and a DC captain marvel?

haha the ownership history of that name/character is like *the* most tangled tale ever in comics

http://www.worldsgreatestcritic.com/miraclemansaga.html

also i get that his existence has been teased thru all these movies but... did everyone involved seem remarkably incurious about who thanos is and what his deal is? i've seen these all out of order, on cable etc, i forget what they all know. when did they figure out he was behind the alien invasion in the first avengers movie? idk don't mind me

Οὖτις that's... a lot

it's totally insane