The Jordan Peterson Thread

I am very sorry about this

https://i.imgur.com/lbusjT7.png

I still don't get this analogy and that's not Laetitia Sadier.

To NV, it's obviously up to you to skip that show, but you truly would be missing out.

it's from this http://www.self-titledmag.com/2010/11/24/the-self-titled-interview-laetitia-sadier-of-stereolab-monade/

(the analogy is that jordan peterson's daughter made a huge deal the other day about his diet of nothing but beef, which makes him the far-right opposite of morrissey)

I just don't get what that has to do with Mumford and Sons and Stereolab. May be in part because I know zero about Mumford and Sons.

mumford and sons posted a photo in the studio with jordan peterson, laetitia sadier tweeted pretty glowingly at him

it's a shitpost basically

On BBC24 right now, Stephen Sackur interviewing JP, bringing up his nonsense about lobsters...

SS: "Now, I'm no expert..."
JP: "But I am."

Also LOL at Sackur pointing out that, for someone who is concerned with men manning up, he seems awfully thin skinned and oversensitive when criticized - cut to JP looking thin skinned and oversensitive .

the decoder ring to JP is that piece by his former colleague imo

ah, that Sackur thing was on the World Service this afternoon but i made it to the off switch before Peterson came on. don't expect anything better from a programme called Hardtalk which is a fucking stupid title that only a cunt would want to be the host of

The Atlantic jumps in bed with Peterson

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-of-jordan-peterson/567110/

Well, Caitlin Flanagan is the female Jordan Peterson, so that makes perfect sense.

I can never figure out who "The Left" is anymore.

thx for the C Flanagan warning so I don't click on that.

It's a garbage article, but perhaps notable for being in a popular publication that sometimes flirts with liberal ideas.

lol does this just boil down to "why do people keep criticizing JP's regressive garbage ideas"

It's more like a content- and evidence-free screed about how the left is dying and millions of would-be liberals are now tuning in to Peterson, thereby creating a full on panic to delegitimize Peterson at all costs. It doesn't real give any reason why people like Peterson outside of vague hints about him being against identity politics.

It also features the spurious claim that Peterson is as much an enemy of the alt-right as he is of the left.

it's a pretty garbage publication

lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it

the atlantic's editorial stance seems to be centrist-left, but with articles that try to empathize with a version of social conservatism that's actually worse than most social conservatives

These are people who aren’t looking for an ideology; they are looking for ideas.

this is a pure, uncut instance of ideological thinking. almost impressive.

it is astonishing to me that so many people think this dumb motherfucker has anything interesting or novel to say

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

Yeah, I think I was drawn to that article because of the recent Stereolab brouhaha. The article gives zero indication as to what all these people find interesting about him.

I see copies of his book on the “check out these super popular books” display at the library. I’ve never had anyone talk to me about him in a positive way though.

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

lucky. i see his book in stores, him on the tv, podcasts and my tattoo artist was talking about how great he was the other day.

he's not the guru douchebags deserve but he's the guru douchebags need

This came up on this weeks episode of The Weekly (our comedy "week in current afairs" style show) and I thought of this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NonVtxyAk

atlantic rebuttal http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/the-lefts-hatred-of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html

I liked the rebuttal

The all-Jordan Peterson issue of Skeptic Magazine might be the only issue you will ever want to buy, due to it being fucking hilarious cringe gold pic.twitter.com/OJT9tRSJOP

— Rebecca Watson (@rebeccawatson) August 15, 2018

the intellectual dark web is like the hair club for men. JP's not just a spokesman, he's...

aww hell yeah

Ugh. Shermer and Dawkins remind me of some contrarian-libertarian types I know, who are also theoretically too smart to fall for Peterson's shit and yet somehow not.

these dudes really want a bunch of nonsensical platitudes with no internal logic, yet hate religion

Good observation. I actually don’t think most people were built to be true skeptics/agnostics and will always look for some kind of religion substitute /contro-op

I don’t mean that in a judgmental way. It’s good to find an ethos—these guys just picked a bad one that flatters their preconceptions

there's a dipshit the local newspaper lets write op-eds and he's the most predictable libertarian/home-schooler type. you know, people who had repressive churchy parents who now think their parents had all the right ideas, but for the wrong reasons. so it's still a bad culture trying to mess with our children, but REASON is the answer instead of religion

in a recent op-ed it took him two paragraphs to go from "stop calling everyone racist" to "well, rappers say that word all the time"

I can't even

I mean these guys are pretty aligned with fundamental Christians in most ways anyway, especially now that Trump has bridged the gap between fundies and the 4chan incel crowd. watching these dudes all suddenly turn staunchly pro-life and pro-2A has been a trip though

JP is religious

Skeptic (a physical magazine)

Jordan Peterson is the public intellectual our dumbass society deserves.

ugh i was in a cab tonite and at a stop light i looked out the window at this huge theater and this motherfucker was on the marquee

for a show a month from now. the WHOLE marquee. "Dr. Jordan Peterson / 12 Rules for Life tour" fuck me running

Random observations

A fairly unique feature of Jordan Peterson's mentions defenders is how many of them don't even have an avi pic.twitter.com/NTwMFbVQDy

— Oryx & Solid Snake (@trash_ebooks) August 15, 2018

the ones that do are 90% anime characters

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/

Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.

“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.

Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”

“Drink, as in, water?”

“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”

He gives the example of having had some apple cider and subsequently being incapacitated for a month by what he believes was an inflammatory response.

“You were done for a month?”

“Oh yeah, it took me out for a month. It was awful ...”

“Apple cider? What was it doing to you?”

“It produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I seriously mean overwhelming. There’s no way I could’ve lived like that. But see, Mikhaila knew by then that it would probably only last a month.”

“A month? From fucking cider?”

“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”

“What? How is that possible?”

“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”

The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.

This guy is such a legit guy

lol yeah that 25 days thing is a baldfaced lie