MoviePass - will it die a premature death or is it here to stay

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The idea was that the ticket stubs were being OCR'ed and auto-checked, and ones that failed that were going to people being paid an absolute pittance through Amazon's creepy "Mechanical Turk" program. It's possible that MP is no longer paying for the latter service and the stub verification is currently a sham.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

The Regal is IRL screening Eighth Grade, Equalizer 2, Hotel Transylvania 3, Incredibles 2, Jurassic Park 5, Mission Impossible 6, Mission Impossible 6 In 3D, Sicario 2, Ocean's 8, Identical Strangers Three, Skyscraper, and Won't You Be My Neighbour?
All Mission Impossible screenings are greyed out. I can't see if sessions are unsurged on Eighth or 8, because I've seen them already. Sicario only has one screening scheduled, at 21:25, and it is unsurged. The other seven films are not showing at all.

The AMC is IRL screening Ant-Man & The Wasp, Blindspotting, Detective Dee: The Four Heavenly Kings, Hereditary, Jurassic Park 5, Mamma Mia! 2, MI:6, MI:6 3D, Skyscraper, Sorry To Bother You, Teen Titans GO! To The Movies, and Unfriended: Dark Web.
All Mission Impossible screenings are greyed out, as is Detective Dee: The Four Heavenly Kings. I can't see if sessions are unsurged on Blindspotting or Hereditary, because I've seen them already. Unfriended has two sessions scheduled, neither are surged. The other seven films are not showing at all.

The nearby arthouse disappeared off Moviepass altogether two weeks ago.

The revival house has their 7pm Honey I Shrunk The Kids available, their 9pm Aliens is not showing up.

An indie to the south had every session on surge on the weekend; today their screenings of Three Identical Strangers and Sorry To Bother You are available, but Ant-Wasp and Mamma Mia are not showing up.

An indie-chain to the north yesterday had Mission Impossible and The Incredible greyed out, and The Catcher Was A Spy available. Today, MI is greyed out, Incredibles is available, and the Paul Rudd spy movie is not showing on the app.

― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, July 30, 2018 2:46 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

forgot to add: Saturday's surge pricing had gone up to $8. still half of a full-price ticket.

Moviepass sent me a surveymonkey this morning about whether I would have seen Blindspotting without moviepass, whether the trailer on the app influenced me, if my movie companions included a non-subscriber etc, so they're still looking to leverage the data ongoing

― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, July 30, 2018 3:33 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I see stuff like this and is, like, saving a few bucks worth all this brainspace on going to the movies, an entertainment literally based in escapism?

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

there are expensive videogames that are less entertaining than figuring out how to get moviepass to work.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

gaming the system for a few bucks IS a form of escapism.

xp

21st savagery fox (m bison), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link

xxp that's barely a footnote in the ensiclopedia

mh, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

depends how many bucks a few bucks is. i'm at 62 films seen with moviepass for about a $100 outlay. approaching a $1,000 value assuming 15 a ticket in NYC. more to the point i've seen a ton of stuff i would never have seen at $15 a ticket, and i'm pretty happy with that. also when the service works halfway correctly you don't need to do all this scrambling around in the app; it's really only in the past seven days that it's become a complete maze of stuff not showing up that should be listed.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

I'm too much of an Alamo stan to go back to a life without assigned seats

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

I think I've seen over half my MoviePass shows at a local Alamo-like theater that has e-ticketing

The only downside is they have an "aisle" seat every fifth chair and it's not marked in the MP app, so I either count manually or book the ticket at work when I'm able to double-check the seat/row to make sure I've grabbed the right one. Other than that, it's been completely seamless. I've never encountered a glitch at the local arthouse theater, either. Check in, buy ticket, done.

mh, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

MoviePass's "e-ticket" theaters can offer assigned seating if that's the way that theater rolls, but they are thin on the ground. E-ticketing requires that the theater integrate its listings and ticketing directly with MP, and MP won't do that unless the theater is cutting them a deal on discounted tickets. NYC has had only three e-ticket theaters - Cinepolis Chelsea, the Roxy Tribeca, and the Landmark at 57th Street - and the last of those has recently vanished from the app. So that's not super helpful.

You can always swing by the Alamo earlier in the day, buy your ticket and pick your seat, but obviously this depends very much on distance/convenience/time/etc. Them and Metrograph are the only ones I regularly attend that do assigned seating.

You may also want to look into Alamo's own "season pass" program, when/if it rolls out past beta.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

just waiting for the Brooklyn Alamo to open their video store

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

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— Video Free Brooklyn (@vfbrooklyn) July 26, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

is, like, saving a few bucks worth all this brainspace on going to the movies, an entertainment literally based in escapism?

luv 2 kick back and enjoy the escapist ride of Leave No Trace and Blindspotting and First Reformed and Mother Of George

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

also m bison and Dr Casino OTM. I'm at 79 films, 1948-2018, from seven countries*, for $69.65 outlay so far. A multiplex ticket costs $15.50 here.

*more if you count the Oscar shorts

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

For anybody forced to verify ticket purchases, is anybody really looking at that shit?

Yeah. Don't know if it's OCR or Mechanical Turk, but my ticket didn't match a few weeks ago (went to a weekly movie series, they changed the screening title within the last few weeks, too soon for Moviepass's listings to update) and got contacted by customer service for it. Must faster than any time I've actually had a problem.

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

Huh. Well i probably saw my last movie w them last night anyway.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

My year sub doesn't end until December so I'm ridin' this thing 'til the wheel fall off. That said, if I was a monthly subscriber being forced to go to $14.99 with all these new BS rules I'd probably quit.

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link

Looking through my MP history, it probably does trend more to escapist fare.... I guess? I've seen a lot of 'classic escapism' and older blockbusters/b-movies/genre stuff - Wages of Fear, Blood Simple, Liquid Sky, China Syndrome, Rosemary's Baby, Ms. 45, Umbrellas of Cherbourg, etc. etc. I've also seen a fair bit of contemporary Serious Films In the Conversation like 3 Billboards, Fantastic Woman, Florida Project, Sorry To Bother You, and so on. The 'toughest' thing I've watched with it was probably yesterday's screening of Barbara Loden's Wanda. Things like Barry Lyndon, Antiporno, Girlfriends, Maitresse, might be 'difficult' in some sense but are still an 'escape' in a way.

But... idk how much this matters. To me the mild hassle of dealing with the app (when it's not as dysfunctional as it has been this week) don't really add much on top of the basic scheduling thing of keeping track when all this stuff is screening. And that's worth it for the chance to see this stuff on the big screen.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

What's the worst movie experience so far that being on moviepass let you shrug off as no big deal?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link

Super Troopers 2

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

Either The Foreigner or Proud Mary. Or maybe when a repertory screening turns out to be a really shitty, washed-out pink print, where it's like "that would have looked better on streaming." OTOH being with an audience is always worth something. I saw the Hong Kong action-comedy Aces Go Places a couple months back and it looked like absolute hell but it was enhanced by the big gags getting big laughs.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

I saw Uncle Drew and there was screen disruption so I got another free ticket from the movie theatre itself

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

insult to injury

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

xp lol I went to go see Uncle Drew and the A/C went out before the movie started. got a free ticket, still haven't seen Uncle Drew...

Nhex, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

How do you even watch 79 films from only seven countries?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

in breaking news, America makes lots of films

my worst is a fight between Proud Mary, the first Deadpool (at a Hecklevision screening), Infinity Baby and Set It Off.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

Fair enough. I guess we still only get to see a fraction.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

fwiw only 24 of my 62 moviepass swipes have been for films in their initial theatrical run. in nyc at least you could easily watch a film every single day all year and it never be a new american movie. so watching x number of films from y countries isn't particularly weird. if you think sic's doing it wrong, you should check reddit, where everyone's still sore about not being able to see "infinity war" five times, and branching out to an "indie" means seeing the horrifyingly-reviewed Gotti movie with John Travolta that moviepass was pushing a while back.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

36 of mine were new US films from 2017/18. (other new releases were from China, France, Russia, the UK and Australia.)

in nyc at least you could easily watch a film every single day all year and it never be a new american movie

I suspect that NYC is the only city on the planet where one could do this, with Cinefamily and the New Beverly closed in LA. in six days there in June, I felt like crying with wonder every time I looked at Moviepass.

the reddit is incredible, swarms of ppl self-righteously cancelling their service bcz they couldn't see Mission Impossible for free on Thursday. and shouting at anyone who points out that they'd still save money if they only see one movie a month.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

wait no, you could still do it in LA with American repertory and three-day runs of new imports in a glorified screening room.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 21:58 (five years ago) link

I'm surprised no enterprising hucksters with a couch and a projector have opened "theaters" for the express purpose of gouging moviepass.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

I went to AMC A List this morning

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link

Under a dime. I am surprised they haven't thrown in the towel.

Yerac, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

Jordan Belfort will rescue them

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

Maybe ILX can pitch in to buy them out.

devops mom (silby), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link

The list of available movies curated by Morbs

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Morbs’ taste may not be catholic but it probably isn’t bad so that could work out

devops mom (silby), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

Half the day's screenings of the available movies are disappeared from the app today, even at a theatre with only two sessions.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

Xpost it actually wasn't a jab lol

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link

I appreciate sic’s updates itt because they are like the journal entries in a space horror game where someone is describing reality crashing down around them

devops mom (silby), Friday, 3 August 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link

hahahhaa

The pattern over the past few days has been wobbly showtime appearance/disappearance during the day, then a total voiding ("there are no more showtimes") around 6 or 7 PM. Get them tickets early! They really should change the message at least - it just invites hostility to see a multiplex with dozens of shows as "there are no more showtimes." But the whole enterprise is a doomed mess: they're slashing showtimes to save dough by reducing use, while trying to sell themselves to theaters and distributors as a powerful force that puts tons of people in seats.

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Friday, 3 August 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

interestingly, the "no more showtimes" has been happening about 6-7pm on the west coast too, despite eg their helpline historically operating only on NYC time

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Friday, 3 August 2018 19:50 (five years ago) link

I wonder how many app programmers they have left, and if they are making payroll

devops mom (silby), Friday, 3 August 2018 19:54 (five years ago) link

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoviePassClub/comments/951e7o/official_press_release_moviepass_launches_new/

The new model, starting mid-month: still $9.95/month, BUT limited to three movies a month, BUT without "peak pricing." Movies beyond the 3 get upcharged. People on annual plans still enjoy their old terms until renewal time. Essentially they're trying to massively cut down the cash burn by reversing the entire "see a movie every day!" angle but that was always preposterously unsustainable. It's now only severely unsustainable so hey... So long as this is enough to keep them afloat (or restore some shred of confidence so they can sell their currently worthless stock), and so long as they don't purge the arthouse and indie options, I'm pretty happy with this.

mortal kombats fill your eyes (Doctor Casino), Monday, 6 August 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

I'd still take it. $10 for 3 movies is better than the alternative, full price. The peak pricing was a major hassle for my friends on the monthly plan. Also, at least I'll get the full service until my yearly runs out.

Problem is them shutting off all off the showtimes by 7 PM every weekend for the past two weeks, which is pretty infuriating.

Nhex, Monday, 6 August 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link

They don't have daytime showtimes available either, so it only currently works for cinemas that sell tickets in advance, and that you're also able to visit eight hours before the session.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 6 August 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

I assume they have no employees left because how else would they make payroll at this point

devops mom (silby), Monday, 6 August 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

in nyc at least you could easily watch a film every single day all year and it never be a new american movie

I suspect that NYC is the only city on the planet where one could do this

never been there, but Paris, maybe?

I believe my taste is pretty catholic; commercial Hollywood stuff didn't reach 95% garbage, imho, til the last 10-15 years, and i like plenty of 20th-century 'mainstream' movies.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 August 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link

Paris was my assumption for runner up but I have no real idea how broad subtitled and repertory exhibition is amongst their famously numerous theatres

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Monday, 6 August 2018 16:22 (five years ago) link

You know what they call a Moviepass in France?

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 August 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link

in nyc at least you could easily watch a film every single day all year and it never be a new american movie

I suspect that NYC is the only city on the planet where one could do this

never been there, but Paris, maybe?

Counting repertory theaters you could do this in Copenhagen as well and probably in every other European capitol there is.

Frederik B, Monday, 6 August 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link


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