2001: A Space Odyssey

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2010 is such a depressingly literal-minded movie

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 00:11 (seven years ago)

It's telling that the plot hinges on the recording of Bowman saying "My god, it's full of stars" which was only in Clarke's book, not in Kubrick's film.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)

Many many xp to all the chess talk, but when the Kubricks first came back to the US after "Paths of Glory" and he was between jobs, he paid their bills by winning at poker against their showbiz friends. Apparently he could have been a pro at that, too.

Eliza D., Wednesday, 1 August 2018 02:07 (seven years ago)

Pink all along, nerds across the world wipe their brows and pick another argument.

https://filmandfurniture.com/2018/08/exclusive-original-2001-djinn-chair-from-kubricks-film-set-has-emerged-and-settles-a-debate/

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:32 (seven years ago)

I think '2010' is a good sequel because it doesn't try to be like '2001'. It fits 1984 the same way the original fits 1968.

Visibly Over 25 (snoball), Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:38 (seven years ago)

I’ve literally never heard anyone suggest those magenta chairs were red xp

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 4 August 2018 11:25 (seven years ago)

v important thread

How children reacted to "2001: A Space Odyssey," according to a 1968 Howard Johnson's menu. https://t.co/NtYCUYfSFk pic.twitter.com/KCnmzAtV4r

— Robert Loerzel (@robertloerzel) October 23, 2017

Rogan Twort's highly portable product (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:21 (seven years ago)

now i'm wondering how many of those giant cereal boxes in The Shining were product placement

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)

the shining was conceived solely as a means to showcase the big wheel tricycle iirc

Rogan Twort's highly portable product (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)

Where can buy that cute bear costume?

Alba, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:17 (seven years ago)

probably the place Cruise bought his costume in EWS

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:18 (seven years ago)

Saw it again for the first time in more than a decade, still unmoved.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:19 (seven years ago)

were you supposed to be moved, tho? or was your mind blown?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:21 (seven years ago)

By the second hour my mind was blown alright

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:22 (seven years ago)

You and KJB should talk about it some snowy night in front of the fire.

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:39 (seven years ago)

probably the place Cruise bought his costume in EWS

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 8, 2018 10:18 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Now you made me go look up what the heck ever happened to Leelee Sobieski.

Eliza D., Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)

She had a career path set up as younger/flashback Helen Hunt, did a fairly good Joan of Arc miniseries, and then a bunch of bit roles.

Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:03 (seven years ago)

The look on the faces of the punters in the background.. much like the aeroplane pics of passengers 'as calm as Hindi cows' in Fight Club.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DeOTGd9XcAACNsr.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:19 (seven years ago)

I miss hand-lettering in comics (though I bet the letterers don't).

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:22 (seven years ago)

The computer in Demon Seed >>> HAL

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:39 (seven years ago)

I don't miss hand-lettering in comics, because I avoid comics with computer lettering as much as possible.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:46 (seven years ago)

Alfred, I get the feeling you're not much of a Kubrick fan in general. How accurate am I?

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:02 (seven years ago)

Correct! One of the few cases when I think of his fans (mostly guys who blather about his depths). I like most of his films through Lolita and love Barry Lyndon.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:06 (seven years ago)

Finally going to watch “2001,” the way Kubrick intended. pic.twitter.com/G8Pd6LBZLD

— Chris Regan (@ChrisRRegan) August 7, 2018

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:07 (seven years ago)

lol

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:13 (seven years ago)

"through Lolita"! which SK admitted was made too soon...

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:25 (seven years ago)

I'm rewriting the dialogue in 2001: A Space Odyssey to more accurately reflect the period it's set in pic.twitter.com/ChAdhtgTQf

— How do i get the rose in my name (@i_zzzzzz) April 25, 2016

pplains, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:41 (seven years ago)

when should kubrick have made lolita, if not in 62?

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:52 (seven years ago)

Yeah. Lolita as novel is such a product of its time and its constraints that I cringe at the thought of a Ken Russell bacchanal or Phil Kaugman intellectual thriller.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:59 (seven years ago)

well, there was the Adrian Lyne version (which i liked)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:03 (seven years ago)

*Kaufmann

I tried forgetting about the Lyne version.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

JD if he'd made it, say, right after 2001 it could have been explicit enough due to the fall of the Production Code.

Kubrick:

I would fault myself in one area of the film, however; because of all the pressure over the Production Code and the Catholic Legion of Decency at the time, I believe I didn’t sufficiently dramatize the erotic aspect of Humbert’s relationship with Lolita, and because his sexual obsession was only barely hinted at, many people guessed too quickly that Humbert was in love with Lolita. Whereas in the novel this comes as a discovery at the end, when she is no longer a nymphet but a dowdy, pregnant suburban housewife; and it’s this encounter, and his sudden realization of his love, that is one of the most poignant elements of the story. If I could do the film over again, I would have stressed the erotic component of their relationship with the same weight Nabokov did. But that is the only major area where I believe the film is susceptible to valid criticism.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:07 (seven years ago)

But that is the only major area where I believe the film is susceptible to valid criticism is a line more directors should try.

Alba, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:02 (seven years ago)

> *Kaufmann

A Charlie Kaufman adaptation could be fun.

Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 21:06 (seven years ago)

I'm sure lots of you already knew this, but in my eye-rolling outrage at discovering the new 4K release is based on Nolan's piss-yellow "unrestoration" version, I checked and ...
https://www.quora.com/Is-Christopher-Nolan-color-blind
OMFG

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 13 August 2018 03:38 (seven years ago)

hahaha the internet is amazing

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 13 August 2018 03:52 (seven years ago)

lol

Dan S, Monday, 13 August 2018 05:34 (seven years ago)

i must be too, cuz i didnt see any piss yellow

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2018 11:19 (seven years ago)

e.g. here

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 13 August 2018 12:30 (seven years ago)

Seeing as there's a restored 4k transfer already doing the rounds in cinemas it seems far more likely to me that the home video release will be based on that than on Christopher Nolan's 'unrestored' print. The trailer means nothing, it's very possible the production house didn't have any access to the actual new transfer.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Monday, 13 August 2018 14:06 (seven years ago)

The people on home theatre forums seem fairly reassured at this point and there would certainly be wailing and gnashing of teeth over there if it was actually confirmed that there would be piss.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Monday, 13 August 2018 14:09 (seven years ago)

MK, i wouldn't believe Jeff Wells if he said the sun is going to set tonight

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 13 August 2018 14:11 (seven years ago)

gdi that's not how colour deficiency works ugh

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 13 August 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)

I’m probably getting this wrong, but I read somewhere (can’t remember where) a theory that it was maybe a film/projector compatibility thing, with the film stock of the day designed to be shown using a particular type of film projection (tungsten-halogen?) which de-emphasizes yellow, so the theory is that the “restored” print isn’t how it would necessarily have actually looked to people in theaters at the time.

I'm not sure I believe that but what they’re calling the restored print really does look yellow-orange to my eyes in those youtube comparisons (assuming they’re accurate). It gives more warmth but it doesn’t look as pleasing to me…it eliminates the cold whites/grays and really flattens out some of the deep blues/greens

Dan S, Monday, 13 August 2018 14:45 (seven years ago)

*"restored" should read unrestored

Dan S, Monday, 13 August 2018 15:31 (seven years ago)

FGTI I do know how r/g colour blindness works in general terms, it was more the idiocy of having someone with known colour perception deficits make decisions about colour timing on such a cinema landmark. Particularly one made by a filmmaker whose signature directorial style was obsession with technical detail.
Does anyone REALLY think that they painted the sets blinding white and lit them meticulously, to achieve this look?
https://s1-ssl.dmcdn.net/qByxw/x1080-png/NQU.jpg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 00:53 (seven years ago)

cf. set photo:
https://media.wired.com/photos/59548b4ebe605811a2fdd5c6/191:100/pass/Getty_2001Space.jpg

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)

cf. every fucking set photo

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 00:56 (seven years ago)

i saw the print 3 weeks ago; it didn't look like that first photo, sorry

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 01:01 (seven years ago)

That's a little reassuring - I have heard that there is a new 4K DCI in cinemas as well as the film-based Nolan print, or did you definitely see the latter?
And there is obviously a digital scan of the Nolan version, used for the 4K trailer which is the same as the re-release trailer; it's been compared to the 2007 bluray here (corridor compared at 0:47, less yellow than above but still yellow):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1JIkK7-fUI&t=47

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 01:33 (seven years ago)


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