this was good
the in-between bits were a little draggy.
cavill is an excellent untrustworthy heavy. sometimes though when he talks it's as if he's painstakingly taught himself to say the lines phonetically.
i don't think we get a full cruise-grin once, which i was a bit sad about.
my son exclaimed halfway through: "he's REALLY good at steering!"
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
ferguson's moves at the extremely lightly explained parisian "event" where ethan's supposed to impersonate lark were badass and whoever said upthread that she should take over from cruise once he bites it in a stunt is otm. and she's amazingly beautiful of course but i don't hold that against her. neither, it seems, does hunt's wife.
q: what does ilsa whisper in julia's ear in the last scene at the hospital??
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
"Deus ex machina"
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
Loved this btw
good review th, otm re cavill
ferguson is so cool and gorgeous and kickass
i think they were just sharing a generic girls' moment
lookit, i gotta ask....didnt the wife die before? i mean I know we got the backstory and also i didnt care but i was a bit eh hows that work u died
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link
Her death was faked iirc
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
Fooled Renner even
got me too obv
i missed renner!
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link
in Ghost Protocol, Renner's big secret is that he was on a protection detail shadowing Hunt + wife in Croatia when she was killed by some Serbians that Ethan subsequently takes out and is chucked in Russian prison for
only he reveals at the end that it was all a ruse so she could live her life in peace and then he goes off to creepily spy on her
― Number None, Sunday, 29 July 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link
wait which he
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
Sorry, Ethan. Renner has been consumed with guilt throughout the film and when he eventually manages to confess his culpability, Ethan's just like, "did you actually see a body?" *grin*
― Number None, Sunday, 29 July 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link
the same line a guilty murderer uses tbf
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 July 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
remember when an Alec Baldwin bit part/cameo was a cool thing for a movie to have? It actually kinda felt that way again. Maybe it was the sharp haircut.
― antisocal (rip van wanko), Monday, 30 July 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link
it was the six gun draw
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 30 July 2018 00:08 (five years ago) link
I really did enjoy Baldwin, and I’m a noted hater of late
― mh, Monday, 30 July 2018 00:52 (five years ago) link
Nick Pinkerton finds these films "consistent"
If Hunt is in many respects the perfect Tom Cruise role, it is due to the sense of monomaniacal absorption in the job that is built into these films, in which – excepting Woo’s endearing but slightly off-brand second movie – spy games are an around-the-clock occupation that leaves little time for cocktails and bounding between boudoirs.
This suits an actor who can and will do most everything for a scene – including hold his breath for six minutes underwater – but for the life of him cannot project a naturally laid-back air, much as the relentless pitch of the movies seems to be in synch with our uptight, always-on-the-clock age. (In capturing something uniquely contemporary, these frantic films are only outdone as a franchise by the Resident Evil series and its vision of a corporate-sponsored apocalypse.)
“Running in movies since 1981,” reads the bio, possibly intern-penned, for Cruise’s otherwise quite humourless Twitter account – but this gets at something essential about the actor’s scrambling screen presence, which combines Apollonian grace under pressure with hell-bent-for-leather sprinter speed.
http://bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/features/tom-cruise-mission-impossible-franchise
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link
Stanley Kubrick was a genius because he was able to make Tom Cruise look truly stressed by not allowing him to run at any point during the filming of Eyes Wide Shut
― mh, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link
that sure is some thoughts about tom cruise
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
Sorry "Hunt is the living manifestation of destiny," the actual most ridiculous line in the Mission: Impossible series is II's "We just rolled up a snowball and tossed it into hell. Now lets see what chance it has."— Matt Prigge (@mattprigge) July 30, 2018
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
I liked this a LOT more than the previous, probably because it took more tonal risks (both way more ridiculous and a little more grave). This is the first time I've had a use for Cavill.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link
I can't rule out that my lowered expectations or the 5$ price tag were factors in said enjoyment
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
"We just rolled up a snowball and tossed it into hell. Now lets see what chance it has."
2’s dialogue is almost all incredible garbage
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
i watched all of these for the first time recently and without a doubt 2 is the worst movie i have seen in at least 20 years
― j., Wednesday, 1 August 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link
idg what's wrong with the snowball line. "Let's see what happens" may have worked better from a logical standpoint than "let's see what chance it has" but it gets the point across
― antisocal (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link
Re watching MI3 - JJ has a knack for the big climactic beats (incl Russell's tender farewell "thank you") and a love for the gadgets (the auto retracting tactical gear!) but yeah too much of it is strictly functional.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link
It reminded me of every most JJ movie in that it has good individual scenes but builds up to stuff that doesn’t pay off. The “anti-god”’discussion early on and PSH’s scenes suggests something more ominous than the perfunctory gun battle that forms the climax. I do like the scene w Cruise telling his fiancé what IMF stands for and her reaction. There’s a good ridiculous long take of his continuous running.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link
De Palma’s holds up so much better than I remembered. Lots of plays on illusion and perception throughout. I recalled the train thing at the end as a 90’s too cgi set piece but the sense of speed is really potent and transcends in a way lots of blockbuster set pieces don’t.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link
The first JJ Star Trek still probably his best executed movie and even that's just...fine
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
Agreed. Definitely the best thing he’s done imo.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:27 (five years ago) link
i think its good, not fine, but yeah agreed on him otherwise
depalmas mi is vvg, the vibe is pretty unique, the lower-key stunts and chases are in the (here it comes again) ronin vein and everything else is like a better bond
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link
whats different about the beliefs of every movie hero as proxy?
that cruise's beliefs are scientology as opposed to apple pie/individualism/liberal humanism?
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac)
eg using actual slave labour to build his (let's say) 12th and 13th homes IRL makes it a little hard to buy him as a paragon of decency in movies imo
― 16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
There’s a good ridiculous long take of his continuous running.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, July 31, 2018 9:17 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is the best scene in 3
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:46 (five years ago) link
having just watched it this is absolutely otm, also liked Hunt being literally dead during the dispatching of the actual big bad
I'm not especially distracted by Cruise's evilness because most movie stars are irredeemable for the wealth-hoarding alone
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:48 (five years ago) link
wow another smaug take from the left
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
Harrison Ford is especially evil, being both a wealth hoarder and a nerf herder
― sassysquatch (rip van wanko), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
Running in movies since 1981
ok this is pretty funny
i enjoyed this in a does-exactly-what-it-says-on-the-tin sorta way
― gbx, Friday, 3 August 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
I took the day off work today. So I went to see this in the middle of the day. It was fine! Should’ve been Armie Hammer ‘steada Henry Cavill. I also went to the library.
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 3 August 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link
I can't really see Hammer pulling off being as physically imposing (though it would have made the "I prefer a hammer" line a howler)
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
but hammer is like 6ft 4 and absolutely physically dominated cavill in man from uncle!
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
yeah i think he would be a great hardman. he’s like 8ft tall basically
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
cavill's phsys
― ryan, Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
oops.
cavill's physique was slightly distracting because i kept thinking "when does this character have time to go to the gym 2 hours a day and down protein shakes constantly..."
― ryan, Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:14 (five years ago) link
yeah he is just a slab
― gbx, Saturday, 4 August 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link
when he whipped off his jacket in the early restroom scene I was like, well, guess this just became boxing club
― mh, Saturday, 4 August 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
when you see Cavill in this & Man From Uncle it is like he’s not even the same bummed out dude that was playing Superman
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link
he missed his moustache
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
I don't remember much about the first five films, though I do remember liking the last two a lot. Yet I hated almost every interminable minute of this one, which felt like B-list Jackie Chan boilerplate. They could have showed the reels out of order, for all it mattered.
Lots of stuff I didn't like this time around, but for some reason more than all the others I was struck by how ridiculous (in an already ridiculous series) it is that literally everyone in this film is a well-dressed model/superhero ninja ... *except* for the two deus ex people that Hunt hangs around with.
xpost Scanning the most recent bits of this thread, yeah, I was also struck by how huge Cavill must be. Haven't seen the Superman movies, but every once in a while in this film they shoot him so that he looks only modestly massive next to Cruise. *pauses post to look up his height.* Huh, he's only 6'1? I guess Cruise is pretty short, but this guy must be all muscle.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
some actors stand on platforms, Tom insists on forced perspective shots and makes everyone else stand in a hole
― mh, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
everybody needs to watch the end of the mission Impossible b-roll where cruise is congratulating everyone, it is really the distilled essence of something that i can't quite identify. it is so rock-hard pure, so irreducibly cruise, yet lacks any of the boyish tenderness that those of us who like him in these movies still see in his performances. it's like he's become the ice-man!
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link
I love reading stories of him being super cool to cast mates. Who was the one dude? Jake Johnson, who was in The Mummy? Yeah, him: https://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/jake-johnson-the-mummy-interview-spoilers
Here’s a story that is very anti-Hollywood, but very Tom. He wanted me to work out with him and get in shape for the movie. People have told me in the past, including New Girl, that I need to lose weight and stay in shape. But they don’t tell me how. It’s like, "Hey tubbo, fit into these slacks!" Tom said, "I really want you fit for this movie." I literally thought I was going to have to call Max Greenfield to do Crossfit. But Tom said, "You’ll be training with me and my trainers. If you want I’ll put you on a food plan with my chef. The food is great." And the food was great.He (also) said I could use his gym whenever I wanted. One day I go to work to work out and one of the (assistant directors) goes, "You can’t go in right now because Tom is working out." I thought, "That sucks, I got here an hour early to get this in, but he’s Tom Cruise." After, when we were shooting later that day, he said, "What happened to you? I thought you said you were going to work out this morning?" I told him I was told not to bother him and he got really pissed. He said, "Let me make something crystal clear: I don’t care what anybody on the crew says to you, they don’t know what I’m saying to you. And I’m saying to you that you are always welcome. I don’t care what I’m doing in there. You’re my castmate. Come in." He’s the best.
He (also) said I could use his gym whenever I wanted. One day I go to work to work out and one of the (assistant directors) goes, "You can’t go in right now because Tom is working out." I thought, "That sucks, I got here an hour early to get this in, but he’s Tom Cruise." After, when we were shooting later that day, he said, "What happened to you? I thought you said you were going to work out this morning?" I told him I was told not to bother him and he got really pissed. He said, "Let me make something crystal clear: I don’t care what anybody on the crew says to you, they don’t know what I’m saying to you. And I’m saying to you that you are always welcome. I don’t care what I’m doing in there. You’re my castmate. Come in." He’s the best.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:11 (five years ago) link