Headlines I didn't need from all of this:
Who is Illeana Douglas, the actress who accused CBS executive Les Moonves of sexual misconduct?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 July 2018 02:19 (five years ago) link
TO DIE FOR remains criminally underrated
― maura, Saturday, 28 July 2018 03:08 (five years ago) link
Aw man, I love Illeana Douglas. I'd like to kick this rich, old white man's ass myself. With each passing day of this situation, i'm more and more convinced that rich, old white men (not money alone) are the true root of all evil. And yes a few have been African-American but the overwhelming majority are the aforementioned ROWMs. Crap acronym too. I sincerely hope Miss Douglas emerges from this strong and happy.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Sunday, 29 July 2018 05:02 (five years ago) link
https://i.giphy.com/media/l4FGuE8LtZg2wKmZi/200w.gif
― a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 29 July 2018 09:37 (five years ago) link
Sweet gif Bizarro!
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Sunday, 29 July 2018 11:22 (five years ago) link
God Moonves is such a piece of shit
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 July 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link
bdsm is really problematic for me these days. i understand very well why people want to submit. i have never understood, however, why people want to dominate. also, the older i get, the more i find that none of the "safe, sane, consensual" troika are either/or propositions. if bdsm is about pretending, ssc is part of that pretense.
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 July 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
Probably not the thread to go into a deep discussion on this topic, but I strongly disagree with all of that.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link
yeah, you're wrong
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link
X-post yes, Vegemite grrl, he certainly is.
― VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
Was there a bdsm part to the Moonves piece?
― Yerac, Monday, 30 July 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
I was wondering this too, didn't get the connection
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
jim, don't know what to tell you, but it seems really off base to me in a number of ways.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
i have never understood, however, why people want to dominate.
really?
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Right, do you have to relate to a (extremely common) sexual fetish for it to be valid?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
this seems like the wrong thread for this
― Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link
might I suggest the one about losing a coughdrop in that most sensitive of orifices?
― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
True, sorry
xp
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
Might be related to the BDSM/Consent article I linked to right before Moonves, related specifically to Eric Schneiderman.
The Moonves/Douglas story, along with everything since Weinstein, makes it seem like women who act don't just "fall off the radar" because of aging but because of stories like these. Since she's mentioned in the article, makes me wonder why Penelope Ann Miller (big on Broadway, then in Carlito's Way et al) faded away.
― ... (Eazy), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
Ok, makes more sense after reading that. It's definitely a tricky thing to sort out, and perhaps there are cases that represent a legitimate grey area, but I'd say the most straightforward solution is to give much more credence to women who come forward with stories of abuse. We, as a society, are much too eager to buy into this myth of the vengeful woman who wants to sully a good man's name.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
Ah, the Schneiderman thing seems like ages ago now.
― Yerac, Monday, 30 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
The Moonves/Douglas story, along with everything since Weinstein, makes it seem like women who act don't just "fall off the radar" because of aging but because of stories like these.
yeah, and then people use the fact that they fell off the radar as "proof" that they must obviously be lying
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 30 July 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
yeah its a hideous vicious circle
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
I really like Grace of my Heart
― And where did you acquire this fine bundle of lettuce? (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link
all the men Kool-Aid Manning into the sexual abuse thread to defend sexually dominating women, very cool
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link
ATTENTION BOYS, THERE'S KINK-SHAMING IN YONDER THREAD
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
Jesus Whiney
90% of the time you accuse somebody of doing something you're literally doing it yourself at the same moment
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/File:Kam-mugshot.gif
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
http://images.uncyc.org/commons/0/08/Kam-mugshot.gif
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
fp'd
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link
wow imagine barging in a thread with the intent of derailing it
― frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
Not down with Kool-Aid Man shaming.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
can we get back to kinkshaming bigfoot erotica please
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
"Since she's mentioned in the article, makes me wonder why Penelope Ann Miller (big on Broadway, then in Carlito's Way et al) faded away."
which article?
― akm, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link
The Les Moonves article, where Illeana Douglas was working on a CBS pilot with Miller:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/08/06/les-moonves-and-cbs-face-allegations-of-sexual-misconduct/amp
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
got it
Penelope Ann Miller is on the next season of Riverdale BTW.
Moonves sounds like a fucking asshole only barely better than Weinstein. Surprised it's taking this long to come out.
― akm, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Here's a shithead of a guy
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/us/bill-hybels-willow-creek-pat-baranowski.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 6 August 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link
“How could he have done all this good when there were such dark things happening behind the scenes?” another accuser, Nancy Beach, who also worked at Willow Creek, asked the Times.
― droit au butt (Euler), Thursday, 9 August 2018 07:32 (five years ago) link
http://www.kuow.org/post/six-more-women-accuse-david-meinert-sexual-misconduct-and-assaultA wrinkle in this case:
Meinert did not respond to more than 50 questions about the allegations made by the newest accusers, despite multiple attempts to reach him. Strategies 360, which represented Meinert during the reporting for KUOW’s first story about Meinert, dropped him as a client after learning one of their employees had come forward to accuse Meinert of sexual misconduct.
― faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
I guess this belongs here:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/nyregion/sexual-harassment-nyu-female-professor.html
When I was at Cal in the early 90's Ronnell was a professor there (in the comp lit department) and up-and-coming as a 'celebrity philosopher' the extent that such things exist. I was rather interested in the Telephone Book which is lovely although was mostly incomprehensible to me at the time (probably still would be). Even then on campus there were rumors that she would take particular interest in one graduate student a year and take them on as a lover, or something. Such behaviour was extremely prevalent in the 90's, my guess is a good amount of it was consensual, and a good amount of it probably hinged on these kinds of power dynamics that make things ugly. At any rate, Judith Butler comes across very poorly here IMO.
― akm, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link
Big News In Houston: https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/08/omar-afra-assault-accusations/
up until a few days ago, Afra ran a couple of big music festivals and published Free Press Houston, the biggest free Alt Newspaper in the city.
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link
has nobody on earth ever heard of "I have no comment"
― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
that was one of the more bizarre & inscrutable recurring moves last fall/winter. In so many cases (I'd say more than half), the apology/damage control statement actually did more damage than the accusation would have on its own.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
Nicki Minaj’s Ex Safaree Accuses Her of Violent Assault
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:52 (five years ago) link
Afra initially responded to the allegations in the comment’s section of Hamilton’s post. Posting under the pseudonym “Samuel Houston,” Afra said he has been “documenting this coordinated campaign for the past 10 months with lawyers, federal and local law enforcement… Much more will come out about this in the coming days, weeks, and months both online and in courts.”
oy
― maura, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 22:51 (five years ago) link
― faculty w1fe (silby)
i have no comment
― Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
Asia Argento, a #MeToo Leader, Made a Deal With Her Own Accuser
― pomenitul, Monday, 20 August 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
So Aziz Ansari played a small comedy club here in Madison last night, tickets went on sale the day before, absolutely zero press, just an email to the club's list (with the unfortunate header "EXCLUSIVE MEMBER ON SALE"). Presumably the beginning of his "let's see if people still like me?" comeback.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:12 (five years ago) link
I don't think Aziz will have too much problem
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 August 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link
he'll be fine
Louis could probably come back next fall
― flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link