Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Fernando Guerrero
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I actually like Samantha Bee and Chapotraphouse :(

It's like being stuck between two divorced parents

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:07 (seven years ago)

are they warring??? love bee

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:09 (seven years ago)

she has a NEOLIB husband so they rag on that whenever she comes up

global tetrahedron, Friday, 27 July 2018 16:31 (seven years ago)

pretty sure the only thing they've ever ragged on her for (besides a...difference of opinion on satire) is the school segregation thing

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:32 (seven years ago)

...which I literally only just learned this second was not actually true lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:34 (seven years ago)

In what sense is it not true?

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:36 (seven years ago)

there was a quote from her husband in the NYT

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:39 (seven years ago)

I guess not so much "not true" as "open to interpretation if you're feeling charitable"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/samantha-bees-husband-school/

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:42 (seven years ago)

She gets lumped into the pointlessness of Stewart/Oliver/etc. attacks (which have become more rare since Chapo has become the socialist Daily Show).

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:43 (seven years ago)

I guess not so much "not true" as "open to interpretation if you're feeling charitable"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/samantha-bees-husband-school/

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, July 27, 2018 11:42 AM (thirty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

By this characterization no parent who has ever fought school integration is actually racist or classist. They always come up with rhetoric that gives them plausible deniability.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)

I agree that it's unfair to lump in Bee/Oliver/Stewart. I have a better impression of Bee and Stewart than I do of Oliver fwiw.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:18 (seven years ago)

same

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:29 (seven years ago)

I mean Snopes is really going beyond its mandate with that one. Anyone with an inkling about the way NYC schools are zoned and its racial and economic history can see that class and race were the biggest factors in the opposition the the city's plan.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 27 July 2018 17:42 (seven years ago)

it's odd that Snopes is mostly addressing a 2017 revival of that story.

President Keyes, Friday, 27 July 2018 17:56 (seven years ago)

The Meghan McCain episode was great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:01 (seven years ago)

I can't believe Amber and Matt made me want to see the Purge movies

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:07 (seven years ago)

ugh I know

flappy bird, Friday, 3 August 2018 00:28 (seven years ago)

I've only seen the newest one - it's good! V obviously made quickly and on the cheap tho

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:40 (seven years ago)

I now feel like I personally know Meghan McCain

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:48 (seven years ago)

M McCain stuff reminded of the M McArdle stuff because it's just so bad and stupid that making fun of it starts to become depressing rather than cathartic.

ryan, Friday, 3 August 2018 00:52 (seven years ago)

It probably should have been a shorter segment, worth it for the reveal of Felix's bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)

Sure but reading the inner monologue of these people on occasion does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:55 (seven years ago)

bone-deep hatred of American protestantism tho

this is a weirdly common thread among a lot of younger trump era leftists. the cultural critique that runs from max weber's "protestant ethic" to christopher lasch seems as much a part of it (perhaps unconsciously) as anything from the marxist tradition.

ryan, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:00 (seven years ago)

does help remind you not to slip into any kind of illusion that society is a meritocracy.

^fuck yes

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Friday, 3 August 2018 01:07 (seven years ago)

you have to remember that for people in their mid 30s, a lot of our peers that were churchgoing in their youth and broke away associate the whole enterprise with the heel-dragging on progressive social issues, or in more conservative communities, entrenched bigotry

there are things to admire in the protestant ethic but when your experience started with the satanic panic years and ended during the fight against gay marriage...

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:50 (seven years ago)

and tbf the protestant ethic and being a protestant congregant became very different things

also, megachurches

mh, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:50 (seven years ago)

Trying the Antifada podcast w/ Jamie Peck and her husband (?) - they’re even worse than Chapo at talking over guests.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 08:26 (seven years ago)

My interview with @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE is in the new issue of @Playboy and if I'm being honest, I'm a little bummed I didn't get to hang for the photoshoot. pic.twitter.com/ygXLZeccrH

— Brian Heater (@bheater) August 8, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:25 (seven years ago)

xpost yeah I couldn’t get into Antifada. Though another Majority Report producer has one of my favorite new podcasts—Literary Hangover.

President Keyes, Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:23 (seven years ago)

Brendan posing as Felix? lol

flappy bird, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:28 (seven years ago)

I need some new podcast recs this shit doesn’t get me high anymore. For ref I have done:
Chapo
Cumtown (sorry)
Street Fight
Katie Harper
the Dig
Intercepted
The Adam johnson one about media
Delete Your Account
Doug Henwood
Mic Dicta

Maybe I should try that Mike Racine one about the mob? I listened to the Matt Christian ep and it was good.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:02 (seven years ago)

I didn't care for it. Racine and the co-host/producer are Cumtown-adjacent in style.

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:09 (seven years ago)

Nostalgia Trap has some good episodes
General Intellect Unit
The Joe Rogan Experience

louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:11 (seven years ago)

bret easton ellis podcast is p good for film discussion, repetitive hysterical Hollywood liberals rant, great interviewer (when he has a good guest)

flappy bird, Thursday, 9 August 2018 04:23 (seven years ago)

If you don't mind solo podcasts, Champagne Sharks is good. Struggle Session has its moments. I keep meaning to check out Season of the B.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:23 (seven years ago)

The Joe Rogan Experience

*spit-take*

a space stewardess (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:29 (seven years ago)

lmao

https://i.imgur.com/x3thKLY.png

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:54 (seven years ago)

loool

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 9 August 2018 15:59 (seven years ago)

hahahahahaha amazing

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 August 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)

The Hope Never Dies author is in town for a book reading at Powells this week, too

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:19 (seven years ago)

MH, if you’d like pod recs, try these:

Trashfuture (UK)
Boonta Vista (Aus)
Michael & Us (Can)
Swampside Chats (from the Communist league of Tampa)
Zero Squared (from Zero Books)
Giving the Mic to the Wrong Person (slight bias for this one)
Little Beruit
Aufhebunga Bunga (UK)
Dead Pundits Society
HellaBlack Podcast
This is Hell!
Against Everyone with Conner Habib
Against the Grain (from KPFA)
Pod Damn America
Current Affairs
The Michael Brooks Show
Too Long 4 Twitter
Beast Coast
Left Coast
49th Parahell (Can)
The Discourse, with BJ Sutton

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:28 (seven years ago)

Oops, that was directed at man alive, not mh

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:12 (seven years ago)

I’m gonna stick to american public media’s “marketplace”, thanks

mh, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:26 (seven years ago)

Eww

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:52 (seven years ago)

Cool list, kingfish. I really like the Michael Brooks Show. Lots of discussion of African and South American politics. the Chapo guys show up on there often.

President Keyes, Friday, 10 August 2018 01:08 (seven years ago)

god the QAnon segment with Will Sommer was dizzying in its descriptions of cascading stupidity

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 10 August 2018 15:29 (seven years ago)

Yeah reading about conspiracy theories self-destructing/spiraling out of control like that makes me alternate between despair and relief.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 10 August 2018 15:58 (seven years ago)

More Qanon/Patriot Prayer coverage with Jared Holt here,who was mentioned in the ep:

http://49thparahell.libsyn.com/episode-seven-holt-the-phone-with-jared-holt

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 10 August 2018 18:27 (seven years ago)

Nice: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/bonus-interview-with-parquet-courts-a-savage

flappy bird, Monday, 20 August 2018 16:37 (seven years ago)

I find it funny how unobjectionable the Vice interview was. Like, almost anyone on Rolling Politics would have given similar answers (except maybe on the Mueller stuff). They've gone soft already!

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:42 (seven years ago)


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