Stanley Kubrick: Classic or Dud?

yeah, my first and last viewings of 2001 on film were '74 and '01... and you got me

that NY article is one of the greats

As the film appeared on the screen, Lockwood was shown jogging around the complete interior circumference of the centrifuge, which appeared to me to defy logic as well as physics, since when he was at the top he would have needed suction cups on his feet to stay glued to the floor. I asked Kubrick how he had achieved this effect, and he said he was definitely, absolutely not going to tell me.

remembering Douglas Rain and Pablo Ferro

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/6050-remembering-two-of-kubrick-s-key-collaborators

Filmworker on Film4 tonight

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt6851066/

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finally watched the CC of Paths of Glory I bought in... 2010.

Not sure I never knew that Tim Carey was fired late in the shoot for being a huge pain in the ass, necessitating use of a double in the few remaining scenes. (also the ditching of battlefield narratives involving the 3 men who would go on trial)

also have seen noir vet Emile Meyer in a number of things lately, he is the priest in this

xp interesting — was that info in the commentary, one of the interviews, or the booklet essay ?

It's in the James B Harris (producer) interview. The last straw was Carey claiming he was kidnapped (?!) and refusing to sign a police statement in a timely manner.

btw George Macready and Adolphe Menjou are *really* great in PoG as the scummy generals.

Mejou was a notorious righty commie-hater. When asked how he could work with Hollywood lefties, he said "Easy, I'm a whore."

It's one of the few movies whose narrative inevitabilities (knowing the French high command, in its demand for sacrifices, gives not a damn about Dax's legal case) work on me such that it's hard to rewatch.

I lent my PoG DVD to a friend and I'm afraid I'll never see it again. :(

first film I saw Menjou in (fall '93 or so; PBS loved this film then).

From memory: "Come, come now Col. Dacks--you really are an idealist!"

Douglas' sputtering Kirk Douglas Monologue aimed at Menjou is unconvincing -- it's paced like a scene beloved of Oscar voters -- but I guess the film needed to let some air out.

Paths of Glory was my favourite Kubrick film for the longest time, until, within the past 10 years, it was pushed aside by Barry Lyndon--which, it occurs to me, might be the perfect thing to watch tonight in terms of tone and trying to get some perspective on all of this.

I have been meaning to get around to watching Barry Lyndon for 20+ years, still the only Kubrick I've never seen lol

the Humphrey Cobb novel of Paths ends with the execution, but I think Kubrick and Harris both agreed the audience had to get *some* moral relief (eg Gen Mireau punished in some form for his shoot-our-troops order).

It's amusing to see Emile Meyer, who played the crooked cop in Sweet Smell of Success ("Sidney, come over here so I can chastise you!"), play the priest.

Barry Lyndon is great, everyone talks about how beautiful and painterly it is (it is) but until I saw it again relatively recent I forgot about all the zooms in the movie. it felt like a comedy in a theater

Spartacus seems like a classic 1960s spectacle film

I like it better than I tend to like these things.

complete with an overture and intermission!

The Brits (Olivier, Ustinov, Laughton) are having great fun, and in life they loathed each other.

yes, mastah

I did like seeing the men’s bodies in the baths

the oysters vs snails interlude made me chuckle

it's even funnier when you revel in the Anthony Hopkins dubbing of Olivier

(that scene was restored in the '90s)

I know Kubrick distanced himself from it, and as much of a 60s hollywood production as it was, I liked it. want to see Paths of Glory again

Never managed to get through it myself.

Kubrick knew how to handle Roman maniples.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgywD3XJaWU

Shame he never teamed up with Bondarchuk's Red Army for his Napoleon biopic.

dud

show your working

no i’m good thanks

That Spartacus battle scene was one of the "And a Cast of Thousands!" kind of scenes, where it cost so freaking much to get it onto film that they were never going to reduce it to a fast-paced fifteen seconds of action.

yes, and that clip is just the beginning of the battle sequence

fartacus

sorry ignore

I also recite da classics

have been rewatching Kubrick’s films in order. The Killing, Paths of Glory, Spartacus and Lolita are all so different

love the edgelord first post on this topic

Did you catch the first two? Killer's Kiss is very good imo.

don’t see killer’s kiss on any of my subscriptions but fear and desire is on kanopy, I will watch it

It's not great apart from the sense of unreality and detachment, cool to see this in embryonic form. I love that he borrowed money from his uncle to make it and expected it to make his investment back as a Saturday afternoon feature.

edgelord first post right not wrong

don’t see killer’s kiss on any of my subscriptions but fear and desire is on kanopy, I will watch it

yes, through the SF library. when I signed up they were giving access to 8 films a month, but they have increased the number over time, it’s now 15/month

Wow!

watched Fear and Desire, it was ok. Paul Mazursky's first film role!