9/11: Forbidden Thoughts

now THAT is a good fuckin 9/11 forbidden thought

Yes, it took me a long time to be able to darkly laugh about that but I do now.

after the initial event the thing i most remember is seeing fear mongering and paranoia all over the media. the local news would tell you IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING and to stock up on duct tape.

we were soon introduced to color coded terror grading system and the TSA, which made traveling in/out of the USA suck 100X worse for all time. of course the people that trained and harbor the individuals behind these attacks were well financed, those countries continued to receive money from our representatives, even though they were harboring and funding the very shit we were fighting. you want to talk treason.

to add insult to injury this was soon after George W and Florida Russia'd our election in slow motion with hanging chads. i remember reading shit about corrupt private voting booth operators 10+ years ago. it has been practically demonstrated in realtime over months that the US voting system is a joke for well over a decade.

but nobody cares cos the democrats, and of course that is something you should never do, criticize the democrats. the sad thing is they were wrapped up in this too. the media as well, selling us lies, leaking stuff, peddling this wonk loving horse race, people thinking they are participating in history by watching their leaders fuck fuck them over on live tv. 10 years on, after seeing crooked people get away w shit as a matter of business, no wonder there is so much apathy.

Mueller is supposed to be the hero going to save people and he was involved in the Iraq War bullshit in the first place. it is hilarious people think he is on their side.

i guess turning it into a joke has been a way to compartmentalize. what else are you going to do if the person who is going to be president had her handy dirty w that shit? you have to pretend it's a weird, abstract thing, not a real event. you have to conceptualize it like it's another object in your ideological chess game. it is imaginary playing pretend bullshit. people remember and care deeply about this and it influences the way the world is. you don't think the news telling people to watch out for terrorists, they could be anywhere, for 10 years, has a hand in making people xenophobic? wake the fuck up

the NY Times was caught spreading the WMD lies, no wonder people don't trust the media. Trump is profiting off this, he didn't invent it.

otm

Do you just save up these monologues for a rainy day or

god i just remembered when the troll Giuliani was on SNL in a cross dressing sketch and there was a patriotic moment with some NYPD cops he still making mad money off this almost going on 17 years now

Do you just save up these monologues for a rainy day or

i don't like talking w people that are negative and don't want to talk about the subject at hand but would rather engage in some pathetic duel of wits. hence i don't participate much in threads bc i will see the name of someone and think, they will not even offer their opinion on the subject, they will merely insult me, why even bother. why even try to explain myself when you are not explaining yourself. i do not need to justify posting on this board to you. hence me not participating in most discussions. the reason i am posting is to post my reflections on 9/11 and the ensuing years. it is a reasonable thing to post an opinion on a message board about a topic. why do you post? what do you get out of zinging me for my posting frequency or lack thereof? honestly don't worry about writing back cos i will probably not read this. it does not matter what you think, because you are already hostile, questioning my right to post, or my reason for posting. why don't you just offer your opinion of the topic at hand?

i always forget about the color coded terror grading system. like it wasn't creepy enough going to an airport post-9/11 without hearing that shit. glad they at least retired that system.

I went to the Bay Area a month later. My friends staring agape at the Berkeley fire trucks going down the street with American flags hanging off of the back. "What is this world coming to?"

We were following some car down the street that had a very reverent portrait of George Walker Bush taped to the back with some words on it. "What does it say?" a friend asked me. I squinted and maybe slurred back that it said Justice Prevails.

"WHAT?" she shouted, laughing. "What?" I asked in response to her reaction.

"It says, 'JUST AS WELL'?"

they retired the system? it was still in airports last time i've flown.

the TSA was crazy. this was a true corruption of national values, having your personal space violated, in the name of state security. this was the stationing of British guards in your house, but this is public and embarrassing and possibly even a violent or triggering experience. this was like something you learned about your country even in rural Georgia in the 80s, this was a fundamental freedom just pushed aside in the blink of an eye.

wiki says the program ended back in 2011. i can't remember hearing the "code yellow" etc stuff in an airport in a while.

I've never heard a Third Amendment argument against the TSA before tbh

they definitely don't have the color terror warnings in my airport anymore, because there used to be a really annoying message that the same voice repeated once every 5 minutes, indicating what terror level it was at, and I haven't heard that message in years (and I fly a lot)

DHS got rid of the color codes in 2011

https://www.dhs.gov/national-terrorism-advisory-system

xpost ya its usually the 4th amendment for TSA. the 3rd has something to say about privacy/surveillance rights, wiretapping, listening devices, leaks, etc.

i love the erotic thriller pitch vibe of this thread title

he gripped my member, now erect as those magnificent towers once were...

"what should i pull? tower 7, maybe?"

'Mmm, your jet fuel is just about hot enough to melt steel, lover.'

we're getting into jg ballard territory again

Honey you need to warn me if you're going to crash into Tower 2

Lads.

^ take to 'post lads itt' thread imo

Already posted my World Face Sitter puns there, have nowhere else to go.

lol

catch me and wifey snowballing, now THATS blowback

The fuuuck

boy that's reallly doing it wrong

how is that 9/11 related? were you doing it in the towers?

really not looking forward to a bunch of people who weren't even in NY at the time recall what cereal they were eating when they saw the plane hit tomorrow

My secret "forbidden" thought was that I was seeing a major, meaningful historical moment, and like someone in the Salon piece said, that finally something non-banal was happening.

― DUMPLINGS! (Jesse),

Would love a few banal decades right about now

remember last weekend when 3000 people died of covid again, just like every other weekend

avoiding reading everything for my own sanity but
the US cocaine supply is tainted with levamisole hydrochloride, which can cause immune system collapse

I misread this as hydroxychloroquine and I’ve got an eye twitch now

Honestly it’s pretty incredible how successful the 9/11 hijackers were, 19 of them made life permanently worse in about a million ways for everyone in America, led to the waste of trillions of dollars in warfare, and thereby radicalized who knows how many people in the Muslim world and permanently diminished America’s international reputation.

i was reading an article about first responders who now have early onset dementia and thinking that no event in history may have gone as well for the planners as 9/11. not only did they successfully hit the towers, the towers collapsed (unplanned), unleashing enormous, lingering toxic clouds that have essentially continued to kill people or, in these cases, rendered their brains unworkable, for 20 straight years.

Not liking all these online calls for a 'return to a 9/12 society' from those who: (A) weren't around yet; (B) were little kids at the time; or (C) were grown then but have selective memories blocking out how awful and depressing 9/12 was too.

I remember being annoyed later in September of 2001 that nobody seemed to be over it yet, I was 12 though

I guess when it comes down to it, it was all of us who did 9/11

The real 9/11 was all the 9/11s we made along the way.

9/12 and Sept 2001 = glued to tv news in anticipation of the next devastating major news event to be announced on the hour every hour

My rhyme: 'when Saudis attack, lash out at Iraq'

A forbidden thought from the UK in the form of a (rubbish) date format joke...

"Remember, Remember the 9th of November"

Deflatormouse OTM

on the day I saw this kid getting told off by a Canadian video shop clerk for expressing his forbidden thought: "oh no .. it's just going be the news on telly all night now"

My TV blew up on Thursday and a new one won't be delivered until Monday, so I'm going to completely miss 9/11 weekend. Imagine my sorrow.

Man sorry to hear the terrorists got your TV

I feel like one of the biggest things 9/11 did was allow conservatives to show their asses for 20+ years. the Republican party was already full of pieces of shit and had been for decades, but now they had carte blanche to advance their Islamophobic platforms in the name of "terrorism", and got to finally enact some of the more Orwellian legislation they'd always wanted to.

It really began the end of my optimistic phase of life, and was when I first realized what a dumpster fire our country was. prior to that, I was 20 years old and had led a charmed life and had these naive beliefs about our country and people in general.

I still know people who talk about the kindness they saw after 9/11. idk what country they lived in. oh, ok, a few people were nice to each other at a potluck? a few friends buried their grudge because of 9/11?

I saw Sikh men being murdered and beat up because they "looked like Muslims", I saw friends and family screaming "NUKE 'EM" at the television and demanding we drop a huge bomb on Iraq/Afghanistan. people were dog shit after 9/11.

and agree with everybody upthread, I was pretty terrified in the weeks after. for a variety of reasons. 9/12 wasn't bliss.