Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

oh man I would love a sag paneer right now

Does Ellison's distinction of "SciFi" vs "SF" need to come into play here?

for example: http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2008/11/science-fiction-vs-scifi/

"odd philosophical question at the level of a 12 year old"

How about literary SF that creates an entire medievalish world at the level of a smart, stupendously boring 12-year-old (Frank Herbert)?

Just want to shout out here that I also prefer to be one of 3-5 people in an empty, silent theater. You can get that by waiting a week or two after a movie has launched, and by catching one of those 11am shows on a Saturday or Sunday. You don't have to take off from work to be strategic.

but taking off from work is usually better.

because you get to take off from work.

I went to a weekday showing early in the day and it was packed, because everyone is unemployed. in fact, I ran into two people I used to work with who are also unemployed in the lobby.

Did you go to Starbucks afterwards and start an LLC? That's what unemployed Trekkies ought to do after a movie.

http://michaelhaulica.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/startrek-gorn.jpg
Oh baby, I'm Gorn too loose

i finally saw this and it was fine

Kirk running around with swollen hands was an unexpected infusion of Mack Sennett. Entire film should'v ebeen done in that style, with Nero defeated by a bottomless bucket of tar.

have you seen drag me to hell morbs? i think you should. it's even got an anvil gag!

http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/the_underdetermined_death_of_uhura/#comments

sums up my thoughts on this dreadful film

"this movie is actively hostile to the very idea of multiculturalism, the existence of women, and the narrative of progressive inclusion which the franchise has, up until now, articulated."

lol, whatever. The point when you can stop reading is when the guy (and it is always a guy) starts referencing Giant Vagina Dentata time-warps and invoking Lacan.

"I maintain that the James Bond reboot, which I posted about here, is a impressively thoughtful effort to grapple with the series’ entrenched misogyny."

Kind of ironic as I thought the new Bond films are about as offensively misogynistic as the franchise gets, but *shrug*.

as some writer pointed out, in contradiction to its self-advertised liberalism, the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best, and this movie is no different.

I’m not sure what to make of the fact that Tasha Yar, the original security officer, was female, though her swift elimination from the cast (like that of the original female Number One from the original series’ pilot) would seem to indicate less comfort with the idea than the daring move of putting her there in the first place would suggest.

or it could be that the actress left the series to pursue other opportunities.

i mean i liked college too but come the fuck on.

Yeah I'm pretty sure she just didn't want to be typecast. Worked out well...

http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/the_underdetermined_death_of_uhura/#comments

sums up my thoughts on this dreadful film

― chip dumstorf, Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:53 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

your thoughts suck

it is a really major Dead Women blockbuster

man, I was curious about whatever happened to the actress that played tasha yar and looked her up on memory alpha a few months ago. then I saw that she was acting in fan made internet star trek episodes and it really bummed me out. :-/

the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best

except when Vulcans know best

"she was acting in fan made internet star trek episodes and it really bummed me out."
huh? why you say this like this is demeaning thing?

"as some writer pointed out, in contradiction to its self-advertised liberalism, the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best, "
There are many smackdowns of professed human superiority on ST. I'd agree that ST was a pretty fervent champion of Liberals Know Best, at least until those warmongering DS9 and Enterprise series.

my god, look at the first post. It took them 3 years to make... THAT.

except when Vulcans know best

well Nimoy takes care of this in "Do what feels right" speech here.

I was referring to Sarek but whatevs

huh? why you say this like this is demeaning thing?

uh, not to badmouth star trek: the new voyages... but I was hoping she was getting better work these days. you have to admit that fan series are pretty low on the trek totem pole.

http://www.denofgeek.com/siteimage/scale/800/600/18878.png

I mean, I've never actually seen this. but I don't particularly want to either.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/stexpanded/images/9/95/STNV_MainCast_low_res.jpg

" but I was hoping she was getting better work these days. you have to admit that fan series are pretty low on the trek totem pole."
my understanding is that ST cast members do this as a kind of 'thank you' to the fans sort of thing. Denise Crosby especially might feel
a sort of payback was in order because of the Trekkie documentaries she made.

Or perhaps she thought "oh shit, the cable bill is here"

some really unfortunate make-up/lighting going on there

Or perhaps she thought "oh shit, the cable bill is here"

this is what I took from it.

;__;

haha.

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/images/Citrix/GoToMyPC.jpg

via http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3920/kraftspock.jpg

tell me you guys weren't thinking this

well played, sir.

She will appear in an upcoming two-part episode of the Internet fan-based series Star Trek: New Voyages called "Blood and Fire", playing Dr. Jenna Yar, Tasha Yar's grandmother.

I am thinking Denise is really regretting splurging on the iPhone right about now.

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/images/Trailers/BaF2_380x214.jpg

"for some reason, I just didn't think about how the monthly payments would catch up to me."

(btw current pics of Denise are really driving home to me exactly how old I am, sheesh)

She looks exactly like the library director at another one of our campuses.

I went to my first and only ST convention in spring 1988, right as she got capped.

I remember they were showing all this promo shit for these movies called "Willow" and "Moontrap"

lol you went to a convention

Hey, waitamin, isn't there another ST fan series. Like "Phase Two" or something?

xp

and got a yellow shirt(i still have the insignia patch somewhere, and a tribble wot squeaked)

Did I wear a blue science officer's shirt to the opening weekend of the new movie? No. That was my landlord wot did that.

Surely no one is getting paid for those New Voyages things are they?

The Federation doesn't use money!

god how good was this?
all the people who liked the neo-batman films but thought them too dark for popcorn type movies (which seemed to be a lot of people) should see this.
oddly though this was bloodier than the batman films.

uhura didn't 'cop off' with spock in the tv version did she?

god i so hope they don't 're-boot' the new generataion.. boooring!

As for the next one:

Abrams spoke about the general creative imperatives for the story while Orci hinted that we might be seeing clear metaphors for modern geo-political concerns in the story about ongoing mission of the Starship Enterprise. First, here's what Abrams told me:

"The ambition for a sequel to 'Star Trek' is to make a movie that's worthy of the audience and not just another movie, you know, just a second movie that feels tacked on. The first movie was so concerned with just setting up the characters -- their meeting each and galvanizing that family -- that in many ways a sequel will have a very different mission. it needs to do what [the late 'Trek' creator Gene] Roddenberry did so well, which is allegory. It needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story. There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn't mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths -- truths connected to what we live -- that elevates any story -- that's true with any story."

Here's what Orci had to say:

"We’ve literally had two meetings now. We haven’t decided anything but we’re starting to circle around some ideas. We got a lot of fan response from the first one and a considerable amount of critical response and one of the things we heard was, ‘Make sure the next one deals with modern-day issues.’ We’re trying to keep it as up-to-date and as reflective of what’s going on today as possible. So that’s one thing, to make it reflect the things that we are all dealing with today.

I asked Orci somewhat flippantly if that meant we might see Starfleet grappling with the ethics of torture or dealing with a rising terrorist threat or perhaps a painful, politicized war with the Klingons.

"Well yeah, those are the kind of issues we're talking about. Wow, you're good! But seriously that's the way we're thinking, that's an approach. So if you have any ideas ... "

And this is all meant to be a surprise how?

wow yr good!

Looking forward to the sequel consisting of Scotty introducing healthcare to little dude Keenser's home planet whilst the Federation demands to see Spock's true birth certificate.

not a star trek dude really, but finally saw this and it was AWESOME. pacing reminded me of indiana jones (pre crystal skull abomination). so FUN, they should make more action movies like this.