Israel to World: "Suck It."

If you've ever wondered how today's media would cover openly segregationist laws, you have your answer. From this morning's @nytimes: pic.twitter.com/b7vjjXb6yB

— Alex Emmons (@AlexEmmons) July 20, 2018

#Breaking: Following reports of continued attacks against IDF soldiers near Karni crossing, IDF is bombing area. reports of 2 Palestinians dead.

— Noga Tarnopolsky (@NTarnopolsky) July 20, 2018

too many war kites must have been launched from gaza. surely hamas is responsible and will be put down like the animals they are. /sarcasm

Israel is not Nazi Germany. And this kind of rhetoric is often used by hard-right governments that don't end up committing genocide. But this worldview can be called fascist without exaggeration, and hearing it from Netanyahu is alarming and disturbing. pic.twitter.com/RfXOFUeb4Z

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) August 30, 2018

Is anyone labouring under the illusion that the current Israeli goverment isn't hard right?

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/benjamin-netanyahu-predicted-rise-authoritarianism/578374/

But Bibi took the opposite bet: that ethnic and cultural change would lead to an anti-liberal backlash making Orbán, not Obama, the model for European leaders. Rather than populism being a hiccup on the road to a grander, woke tomorrow, Bibi bet that it was the tomorrow. Deep, fierce attachment to nation and state was not going to fade away. It was going to fight back and win. And systematically, Bibi began courting the illiberals, authoritarians, and strongmen who, instead of fading, just kept on multiplying.

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What I hadn’t realized, especially at the time, was that the Obama theory of history was only about the West. Not only did it have nothing to say about China, it also dismissed Vladimir Putin as some kind of throwback—a “19th-century” phenomenon, to quote Obama’s secretary of state, John Kerry—destined to swift irrelevance. It still has nothing to say about the bloodbath that followed the Arab revolutions, or about the strongmen, not the democrats, consolidating power across the Middle East. There was not supposed to be any future for authoritarian capitalism.

Maybe it was the fierce pessimism of Bibi’s father, the historian Benzion Netanyahu, that shaped his views (an influence brilliantly explored by Bibi’s biographer, Anshel Pfeffer). Or perhaps it was the belief, inherent in Zionism itself, in the inevitability of nationalism and ethnic struggle. But instead of aligning himself with John Kerry and Cathy Ashton, Bibi positioned Israel to work with the emerging demagogues. And now we are living in the world that Bibi expected.

Only watching from Jerusalem, keeping a tab on his visits and his visitors, can you see just how successful Bibi has been. Never before have the leaders of Russia, Brazil, India, Saudi Arabia, the Philippines, and now Italy had such strong ties with Israel. Never before have they seen the leader that sits in Jerusalem as indispensable to their objectives. And this, not John Kerry’s “solutions,” has earned the respect of the strongmen who now rule from Cairo to Ankara to Pakistan.

things always change tho. right-wing seems ascendent today but maybe 2 or 6 years from now the left will seem ascendent again. but def anyone who thought that Obamaism was the guaranteed future was substituting hope for pragmatism.

Attorney General: Israeli PM Netanyahu To Be Indicted On Fraud, Bribery Charges https://t.co/VKKVXG9x8E via @TPM

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 28, 2019

[insert ron paul "it's happening" meme]

new Trumpian territory for Bibi

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/netanyahu-absolves-hitler-of-guilt-1.5411578

new trumpian territory... from four years ago?

Trumpism is a state of mind.

goddammit

well at least he was there first

So there were a bunch of rockets fired at Israel and Israeli airstrikes in Gaza then a ceasefire and there's almost no coverage of it?

a forever story

It was covered over here fwiw.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/22/israel-plans-name-golan-heights-settlement-occupied-land-trump

ffs

can the golan heights trump hotel, resort and casino be far behind

This is even worse than it seems.

A national suicide of the Palestinians’ current political and cultural ethos is precisely what is needed for peace, writes Israel's ambassador to the United Nations https://t.co/cDS6DwOTBt

— New York Times Opinion (@nytopinion) June 24, 2019

new york times op ed page is a sewer

jfc

OMFG

"accepting the olive branch"

lol is this now a euphemism

I’m happy for any newspaper to give the Israeli government a megaphone to broadcast how horrific it is tbh.

Top-notch ambassadorial skills.

He always seemed like such a nice guy previously.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9287715/Israeli-anti-immigration-riots-hit-African-neighbourhood-of-Tel-Aviv.html

The predominately black neighbourhood of Hatikva was ransacked by groups of nationalist protesters who had attended a demonstration on Wednesday night against illegal African migrants.

The protesters claim the Africans are responsible for a rise in crime, bearing signs saying "This is not Africa" and "Stop talking, start expelling".

"Blacks out!" shouted demonstrators in the crowd....

Peace Now, an Israeli human rights organisation, is calling for an investigation into whether the speakers at Wednesday night's rally, including Knesset ministers Miri Regev, Danny Danon, Yari Levin and Michael Ben-Ari, are guilty of incitement.

During her address, Ms Regev described illegal immigrants as a "cancer in our society".

Danny Danon, a member of Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, wrote in a Facebook status later the same evening: "Israel is at war. An enemy state of infiltrators was established in Israel, and its capital is south Tel Aviv."

ethnostates gonna ethnostate

yeah, see, that's *exactly* the sort of thing that only happens in israel!

who could imagine such scenes in western europe or even america

Why, yes, of course. We all know if you can find racism in other countries, it excuses it in your own.

well wait he said it was an ethnostate though

is that different from ordinary racism?

Late Great is otm. Remember, the Swedish ambassador to the UN killed Oluf Palme.

tbf our conservative pols in government in the uk are a bit more circumspect in their being racist and evil. no fomenting racial pogroms, more deporting british residents because they're black

Late Great is otm. Remember, the Swedish ambassador to the UN killed Oluf Palme.

― Frederik B, Monday, June 24, 2019 12:44 PM (twenty seconds ago) Bookmark

eh?

When you specifically call yourself "a Jewish homeland", then you may as well accept that people might identify you as an ethnostate.

lost me w the scandinavian politics inside baseball

oh that’s a different argument to the riots thing though

unclear how it relates to danon’s argument though?

but jewish isn’t an ethnicity?

i am curious about what is so bad and wrong about danon’s op ed in particular? leaving aside the question of whether israel is literally worse than nazi germany or whatever

fuck me

whatever man here’s your chance to speak truth to power as it were

You have got to be kidding me

jewish isn’t an ethnicity?

there seems to be a lot of confusion around that question, even among jews

don’t forget, i am a literal white supremacist

it’s natural i wouldn’t understand these subtleties

just someone explain it to me already, i swear i’ll restrict myself to just asking faux-naif questions

Saying the Palestinians need to 'surrender' and that they need a 'national suicide of the Palestinians’ current political and cultural ethos' is not something someone says who is willing to actually compromise. It's the words of, well, imperialists. The comparisons he makes are 1) to Germany and Japan after WWII, which are obviously offensive and idiotic, and 2) to Egypt, which is not an example to emulate.

hm. ok, i can’t see how you’d draw those conclusions. why is egypt not an example to emulate?

"A national suicide", that's quite a turn of phrase. But it's coming from a racist, so maybe we're expecting too much.

well y’all were pretty hot on the palestinians committing literal suicide by charging the gaza fence, what changed?

Who is y'all?