iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

I would assume they wouldn't be spending all this money on ass-covering unless they were actually seeing user growth stall or even reverse, so that's good. I want them to go fucking bankrupt.

i am told user growth is in fact reversing, which i'm quite happy about. i'm less happy about the prospect that this growth reversal is apparently benefiting google - robbing peter to pay paul, really

lol there is no way people are dropping their fb accounts and then signing up for g+

Google+ doesn’t convincingly still exist.

The ads look so much like the trailer for The Social Network that I can’t believe it’s an accident.

i didn't say anything about google plus! i'm talking about the newsfeed on android phones.

tbh freedom of speech wrt holocaust denial is a very complex issue

there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

Presumably not just about raw numbers reversal but the optics of it too, cant afford not to be main player?

I dont know what the platforms are where growth is strong - I'd presumed youtube and instagram still?

Right but “the best way to fight bad speech is with good speech” is rapidly turning into “guns don’t kill people”, as a statement of “I will ignore all evidence to the contrary”.

The conditions that made what Zuck is saying true (to the extent it ever was) break down into a many-to-many communications situation like that the internet enables. And he knows this. There are studies showing it isn’t true. “Don’t feed the trolls” failed as an approach in 1994.

i had to look up what Facebook Stories were the other day. apparently they are like Snapchat Stories. i couldn't be bothered to look up what snapchat stories were.

it's meant to counter the decrease of original content being uploaded. people are posting less original stuff to facebook. and why is that, mr zuckerberg?

i still use m.facebook webpage rather than the app, because the app was making too many editorial decisions about what it was showing me when all i really want is 'most recent first'.

there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

maybe not but 'we won't tolerate holocaust denial on our platform' is definitely more correct than 'i don't think that they're intentionally getting it wrong'

(also that's a biiiiig 'maybe' on my part)

i had to look up what Facebook Stories were the other day. apparently they are like Snapchat Stories. i couldn't be bothered to look up what snapchat stories were.

it's meant to counter the decrease of original content being uploaded. people are posting less original stuff to facebook. and why is that, mr zuckerberg?

― koogs

they're gonna hire somebody to take pictures of my kids and my lunch for me?

tbh freedom of speech wrt holocaust denial is a very complex issue {...} there's really no "correct" answer zuck could have given

iirc, facebook is under no legal obligation to let any of their members use their platform and they are free to place both reasonable and purely arbitrary limits on what members publish on fb, so legally speaking, whether they allow "free speech" is a moot point. it's all just a matter of whatever their policy is.

it's not all that complex. zuck seems to be saying that their corporate policy allows their platform to be used for holocaust denial. they could easily choose not to allow it.

that
was
the joke

most ordinary people are so confused about what 'freedom of speech' entails that you could probably find plenty of them who'd seriously agree with the statements you're calling 'the joke'

yes, that.. was the joke

funnier jokes please

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/congratulations-zuckerberg-call-trump-election-2016

In the days following Donald Trump’s election victory over Hillary Clinton, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg placed a secret, previously unreported call to the president-elect during which, sources told BuzzFeed News, he congratulated the Trump team on its victory and successful campaign, which spent millions of dollars on advertising with Facebook.

The private call between Zuckerberg and Trump, which was confirmed by three people familiar with the conversation, is just one in a series of private endorsements from Facebook employees of the Trump campaign’s ad efforts on the platform. The company declined to comment on the call. The White House press office did not respond to a request for comment.

While Facebook has been reluctant to publicly acknowledge how well Trump used its social network to reach voters, it has celebrated the Republican presidential candidate’s campaign internally as one of the most imaginative uses of the company’s powerful advertising platform. In addition to interviews with Trump campaign staffers and former Facebook employees, BuzzFeed News obtained company presentations and memos that show the social media giant viewed Trump’s campaign as an “innovator” of a fast-moving, test-oriented approach to marketing on Facebook.

Burn them

With fire

we need to rename the thread btw

All of Facebook's gains this year have now been erased in after hours trading. The stock is down 23.5%. Nothing these execs are saying seems to be assuaging the sellers. Massive after hours volume of 18.9 million shares.

— Max A. Cherney (@chernandburn) July 25, 2018

buy buy buy

i'd be happier if i didn't suspect that the only two consequences of this will be: 1) layoffs; 2) an even shittier product

software engineers could do with some layoffs

It's official: Facebook posts largest one-day loss in market value by ANY company in the HISTORY of the United States stock market

a great time for a better government than we will ever have to scoop it up for a bargain and establish a usable social media platform scrubbed of all the profit-seeking shadiness, oh well

their only good employee quit

I am very excited to say that I have accepted a teaching and research role at Stanford starting in September. My last day at Facebook will be Aug 17.

Stanford students can sign up for my Fall class here: https://t.co/6qIhS4gXA2

— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) August 1, 2018

Hooray!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2018/08/21/facebook-is-rating-trustworthiness-its-users-scale-zero-one/

0.51'd

uh

I hope you will make time for our story today:https://t.co/jSHzsN68IU pic.twitter.com/I9moH26iOk

— Max Fisher (@Max_Fisher) August 21, 2018

Their reams of data converged on a breathtaking statistic: Wherever per-person Facebook use rose to one standard deviation above the national average, attacks on refugees increased by about 50 percent.

iyo did facebook ruin the world?

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xwk9zd/how-facebook-content-moderation-works

A training questionnaire offers some examples: A photo of Taylor Swift with anus eyes: OK. A photo of Donald Trump with an anus mouth: OK. A photo of Kim Jong Un with an anus mouth and anal beads being removed from it: Not OK.

oh god there's also a photo

As here, where Facebook treats its facilitation of genocide as an unfortunate shortcoming of Unicode rather than a result of its conscious decision to expand into a country where it would have no ability to screen content pic.twitter.com/WNGMLeqFi5

— Tom Scocca (@tomscocca) August 23, 2018

Oh anus eyes
Am I deceived
Or did you sigh?

/A training questionnaire offers some examples: A photo of Taylor Swift with anus eyes: OK. A photo of Donald Trump with an anus mouth: OK. A photo of Kim Jong Un with an anus mouth and anal beads being removed from it: Not OK./

lmao my friend said the same thing

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/on-demand/2017/02/28/brass-new_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq_01geUMvhhqXYj_tJM1bT68t64MxvceK5RTDA1NR8Pk.jpg

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/39753161_415274175667009_6698603729836310528_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=fb11aaa88836b9b47fb516c7ba9a7f41&oe=5C098FE1

Their targeted ads sometimes make me feel like at some point I must have crossed a line between decent human being and pure sociopath in one of my status updates.

zut alors

oops https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/how-serious-is-the-new-facebook-breach

zut alors

I have always thought of facebook as "The Next America Online" - like a dumbed-down version of the internet for those who have no time to give a shit about things

hanle y otm

but instead of giving you coasters through your letterbox a couple of times a month they accidentally usher in fascist governments

on Friday, Joel Kaplan spent the morning apologizing for a “thoughtless” appearance supporting kavanaugh in last weeks senate hearing.

by Saturday evening, the Kaplan’s were throwing the judge a victory party.https://t.co/lEtCCNZgtE

— rat king (@MikeIsaac) October 7, 2018