WHOCHURCH: The Chris Chibnall era

* within the first few minutes, The Doctor is shouting at ppl that he can't even be brought to trial for malfeasance or unbecoming behaviour, bcz he's the President. hope Tombot was watching too.

truly, the most difficult man alive to upset

oh but this time he's really upset

somebody on this thread seems pretty upset

<3 sic. But the real revelation here is

read the blog entries for nearly every serial I've watched and several that I haven't

Am still proud of the time I alerted sic to a Moffat Q&A series that he'd **never heard of**

Jim - missing episodes!

i once ate a sandwich that looked kind of like a varga plant, that's my fan cred sorted

* within the first few minutes, The Doctor is shouting at ppl that he can't even be brought to trial for malfeasance or unbecoming behaviour, bcz he's the President. hope Tombot was watching too.

― kelp, clam and carrion (sic)

sadly we're at a point where time lord government is better-run than american government, they were at least able to remove their president for gross dereliction of duty

I am to Marvel what sic is to Who except that sic seems to trump me on most Marvel knowledge despite not even liking Marvel much. Don't know how u do it, man.

Twitch is up to Trial episode ten, and if I'd ever know that space robots play holographic Galaga in this, I'd forgotten. I withdraw everything 0.07% of every bad thing I've said about Pip & Jane

wait I just noticed Colin's tie and waistcoat combo, reinstate that percentage even though it wasn't their fault

Have I missed "a megabyte modem!"?

I think that's in ep 14, when P&J come back to write the conclusion to a 14-part story without knowing what happened in the first eight or in parts of the four that they'd already written

I was 8 when Trial was on. Peri’s death is FUCKED UP. That and Paradise Towers are as scared as I can remember DW making me feel.

there's something slightly malevolent feeling about that entire era.

two different eras there

Paradise Towers starts on Twitch in 10 minutes!

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEc-OQ_oqDk

I didn't look at Twitch at all until Colin started, and I've now rewatched 7 (or 4) of the eleven worst Dr Who stories ever, in a row, for the first time. It's so hilarious that JN-T only commissioned four scripts ever, and three of them were by the Bakers, all BACK TO BACK.

But in the same way shitty Who is great fun to watch with friends and beer, you can totally see how the chat element of the Twitch run papers over any ups and downs, the #youths watching just taking it all on in the spirit of fun, creating their own injokes and interests.

Case in point: Keff McCulloch's score for Time And The Rani, at 31 years' distance, is not (well, not only) being greeted with horror for its cheap terribleness, but being joyously celebrated as ｖ░ａ░ｐ░ｏ░ｕ░ｒ░ｗ░ａ░ｖ░ｅ

the kids are alright

looks fine, if typically uninformative.

xpost can a mod please zap that trailer ffs

There’s definitely something bleak and nasty about the horror episodes of that period, in a way that’s very different to the darkest stories of the Tom Baker era. The shoddiness just makes everything more horrible by default, like the show’s being mounted on the cheap in the middle of an apocalypse. Maybe Androzani through Happiness Patrol?

the bleakness of Saward is a different tone to the bleaker stories of Cartmel -- Saward's rings of aspiration toward cultural masculinity, but as he doesn't believe in it himself, the stories end up riddled with nihilism. Cartmel is out to actively interrogate cultural attitudes and assumptions, so the bleak stories there tend to be "structured society and authority are bad and tend toward fascism... let's overthrow the paradigm and build a new, inclusive world."

like: Revelation and Paradise Towers are both deeply influenced by 200AD, especially Wagner/Grant and Mills. But the conclusion of Revelation is "LOL EVERYTHING'S SHIT AND LOVE IS A LIE," whereas Towers' is "the oppressors should be overthrown and young women should be in charge of everything. also, spraypaint things pink."

xpost: the brand new idea that the producer of Doctor Who repeatedly teased in the press from 1981 to 1987, and that the original creator of Doctor Who formally advised the BBC to do in 1985 when the show was moribund

they should have strapped the doctor to a rotating wheel and thrown knives at him

they should have strapped the doctor to a rotating wheel and thrown knives at him

― karl wallogina (Autumn Almanac)

if by "the doctor" you mean "michael grade" i agree

Jodie is having too much fun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosZSZKo1DM

Switching topics, it seems that the PR is making a concerted effort to use "friends" in place of "companions," like they're spreading out the agency so that it's not just Doctor and Her Assistants?

Note that I'm basing that last observation on a sample size of two.

PR and branding are relentless on calling her The Thirteenth Doctor, which is fucking insane imo

otm, she’s at least 15.5

I wasn't aware that Moffat wrote a Target novelisation of Day of the Doctor (!) earlier this year. I picked it up for a summer beach read - it's basically exactly what you'd expect a Moffat novel to be: too many jokes, too pleased with itself, but with a core of idiosyncratic genius. I expect it'll be living hell for certain type of DW fan, and I might want to throw it out of the window by page 120, but so far so good.

I wasn't aware that Moffat wrote a Target novelisation of Day of the Doctor (!) earlier this year. I picked it up for a summer beach read - it's basically exactly what you'd expect a Moffat novel to be: too many jokes, too pleased with itself, but with a core of idiosyncratic genius. I expect it'll be living hell for certain type of DW fan, and I might want to throw it out of the window by page 120, but so far so good.

― Chuck_Tatum

page 120? a true target novelization would be over by that point

It's a tolstoyan 229 pages

otm, she’s at least 15.5

ha

no it seems incredibly dumb to incessantly imply to new audiences that they need to know anything about the show beforehand, let alone do very specific research about 14.5 actors who have previously acted in the role, which leads to "oh what there's fifty-five years of this I'm supposed to know about already?!"

Jodie Whitaker is Doctor Who, that's all kids need to care about

there are also new Target novelisations of Rose by RTD, The Christmas Invasion by Jenny Colgan, and the final Capaldi special by Paul Cornell.

The Cornell looks like a fairly straight adaptation; the Moffat one is basically "my special plus everything they couldn't afford/wouldn't let me do" and you'll probably like it if you liked "continuity errors"

Also apparently it puts Peter Cushing into contuniuity somewhere

the final capaldi special is the one where nothing fucking happened, right? i can see why one would want to novelize that one.

like: Revelation and Paradise Towers are both deeply influenced by 200AD, especially Wagner/Grant and Mills. But the conclusion of Revelation is "LOL EVERYTHING'S SHIT AND LOVE IS A LIE," whereas Towers' is "the oppressors should be overthrown and young women should be in charge of everything. also, spraypaint things pink."

― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:25 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not sure if Saward was ever really hip to 2000AD, that was more Cartmel's area of interest. Although he did commission a script from Pat Mills that came close to actually getting made a few times, so who knows.

no it seems incredibly dumb to incessantly imply to new audiences that they need to know anything about the show beforehand, let alone do very specific research about 14.5 actors who have previously acted in the role, which leads to "oh what there's /fifty-five years/ of this I'm supposed to know about already?!"

if this is new pr framing, perhaps they’re being ultra defensive because of the whole ~~~lady~~~ thing

Jodie Whitaker is Doctor Who, that's all kids need to care about

100% agree

Me too!

reviving so we can talk here about how close October 7th is

Meant to post this earlier, but Jodes was living it up in July:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eosZSZKo1DM

day of broadcast move would be a MASSIVE bummer & pain if I was still coordinating TV scheduling on the other side of the international date line

watch it now on iVoo

So when is this starting, then?

October 7. A SUNDAY!

Is sic asleep? OK let's go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCt6f1Ttmy4

Liking everything apart from the Aaaaah, BODYFORM-ish power ballad all over the trailers and adverts.

All is forgiven M Gold...