SORRY TO BOTHER YOU (dir. Boots Riley, 2018)

I have to admit I found the pro-TSA sentiment in Get Out disturbing.

it was pro tsa worker not pro tsa. very different things

yeah, pretty sure the fact that Rod the TSA Agent saves the day in Get Out was a joke about how useless TSA is in real life.

Slavery isn't something that can ever be forgiven/recovered from. So, move on. Stop trying to deal with it, it can't be. Shit happened. I live in a country where English colonists invaded and didn't much respect the native ppl, we've lived with it. It isn't great but it is what it is.

Otoh be sarcastic on the internet to other white ppl

Keep going

Oh pls you thought Get Out was going to win best movie

The famous best movie award

The fuck is wrong with you albvivertine

Anyway I enjoyed this, warts and all. Wish Yeun and Thompson's parts were improved or excised.

Who cares, Ilx has its mind made up

...about racism?

FPed albviviterine, sorry not sorry to whoever's sock this is

couldn't help but find the movie extra timely considering the images coming out of Spain

Spain: Amazon Workers on Strike Attacked by National Police https://t.co/hljQT2ICoM

— #August21 (@HalfAtlanta) July 19, 2018

Yikes

Some common sense from @BootsRiley pic.twitter.com/tSeHciNbr4

— Conor Gillies (@conorgillies) July 19, 2018

that's well said

Very

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soundtrack album is really good

"i brought all kinds of weapons"
"it ain't that serious, man. it's serious...not THAT serious"

In the Q&A he did after our screening, Boots mentioned that Squeeze and Detroit had a good deal more conversation film but it got cut

Also that the manager of the telemarketing place had an anarchy tattoo on his neck because the Boots’ own manager back then had one and was in(or managed?) the band Neurosis

This movie reminds me of so many classic Boots lyrics

"I used to work at Mickey D's
To my old busta ass manager, LICKY DEEZ!"

"I asked him why I couldn't get mo hours
He said it must be cause I lacked the mental powers
If I was smart then I would be in his position
I left his nose in a busted up condition"

"two inches to the left of Trump" will be fine with many ilxors

good quick read w/ Boots on the history of the American left

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/27/17620246/boots-riley-sorry-to-bother-you-history-of-the-left-interview

oh def, I really assumed workfree was mainly about conditions in amazon express-shipping facilities and so on. arguably the lifetime-contract thing is what the movie really gets wrong: the trend is towards making labor more disposable, part-time, and precarious, not locked-in for life.... not a major problem tho. i do wish hammer got a line about like "hey these people all signed contracts, it's an equal agreement" or w/e. big part of that whole ideology that cd be made explicit.

WorryFree reminded me of the alleged practices of Sea Org, except operating openly and with sufficient legislators bought to make their practices legal. But its real roots, apart from American chattel slavery, is the workhouse tradition of the U.K. and probably other countries. I know that the Salvation Army and other religious organizations have been accused of exploiting the labor of people they are supposedly serving.

Am I correct in not finding any trace of religion in this movie, either as a tool of the ruling class or a traditional support for African-American communities?

Also, LOL at "Michel Dongry."

Man, this was an ugly mess. Interesting, audacious, but ugly. Repo Man comparisons OFFTM. The satire was second-rate Harrison Bergeron in subtlety, and the interesting unionizing stuff got trounced under dirty heehaw bits.

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— Nicky Smith (@nickyotissmith) August 5, 2018

they're... not really the same

they're both set in Oakland, case closed

i didn't get the sense the movie was interested in world building as much as it was trying to show what present day oakland looks like.

-Philip Nunez
Posted: July 17, 2018 at 12:19:47 AM

Blindspotting is the fleshed out sociopolitical realism that STBY veers into in between the heavily stylized genre stuff

the humour and satire were really bad, but visually it seemed p inspired

in terms of the political critique it felt like it could have come out before 2008

Boots did say he wrote it during the 1st Obama Admin

likewise with Blindspotting, which was written by the two stars over a decade ago

Basically the same reaction as the Joaquin Phoenix film earlier this year: "What the hell did I just see?" Intriguing, to say the least (and pretty amazing for a director's debut, whatever you think about it). I think it might be a Trump film, but I don't know--want to go back and read some reviews now.

Just noticed the two comments above. I guess any connection to Trump--I had Armie Hammer in mind, obviously, but just kind of reflexively, without a great deal of thought--would be purely accidental.

Trump is a byproduct of the same economic and social conditions that drove this film. I see above that Riley wrote the screenplay during the Obama administration, but when did this movie go into production?

Principal photography began on June 22, 2017, in Oakland, California and concluded on July 30, 2017.

Met a (white, decently well-off) lady this weekend who hated this movie for how "dystopian" and "negative" it was, lol

since Riley is saying in interviews "Trump has already pushed Dems to the right" I don't think he tailored this to who's in office.

But the equisapiens were just about to kill the bad guy--it's very uplifting. (xpost)

Maybe she thought Armie was the good guy.

Armie is very definitely an on-the-nose portrayal of a certain type of startup dude who goes to Burning Man every year

more like up the nose right

finally caught this last night, theater was pretty full!

lots of good one-liners throughout... "that's CLEARLY an OLIVE door"

the strongest callback/influence I felt in it was the movie How To Get Ahead In Advertising, same uncomfortable mix of dead end capitalism and horror/surrealism

"maybe the artist is being literal"

Tonally it's a mess isn't even criticism anymore -- it's description. The social protest scenes were written, not felt too. Armie Hammer was simultaneously perfectly cast and too on-the-nose, although his nose was perfect for the coke sequence (directed too broadly too; many of the performances could've benefited from hitting the obvious notes). Didn't care for the early office politics scenes: too familiar, especially the De Bauchery joke, har har.

But the connections between telemarketing and an plutocratic global Octopus made sense, and the fantasy stuff >>> realist scenes.

should have put "tonally it's a mess" in scare quotes