Ohh
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
I wasn't!
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
Darraghmac: you are sure that it was a handball and penalty?
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
The penalty was a penalty
The free kick wasn't a free kick. Croatia should have defended it better though
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
Nah, it was a free kick, it wasn't a pen.
― Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
i know i shouldn't do this but what i don't see mentioned about the handball is that perisic was watching the flight of the ball the entire way. i know there's a lot of maybe it is, maybe it isn't handballs in the box, but they're often deflected off someone's shin/shoulder/elbow straight into an outstretched hand. clearly not penalties. but this took no deflections. perisic had a clear view of it all the way from the touchline. how do you not get your hand out of the way?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
There was one camera angle for the free kick where you could see the contact clearly, I know it wasn't as obvious from the other shots.
― Jules Rimet still leaving (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
Yeah given the current interpretation of the rule it's on you to get your hand out of the way
Perisic actually moves his hand (probably instinctively) towards the ball
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:43 (five years ago) link
Dunno what angle you're talking about but Griezmann clearly throws the leg out Pires-style
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
I did think it was a free kick.
Tracer, I thought a French player deflected the ball on to Perisic's hand?
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
It also seems to be a consensus that CRO should have defended the free kick a lot higher up the pitch than they did.
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
it was a very clear free kick. the fouled players movement isnt relevant when the tackling player fouls him regardless.
jesus.
thought the fk for the equaliser was frankly soft alright but any contact or hint of it from behind is enough.
ppl acting like the slight head fra player got on ball makes a marked difference to perisic slapping it out of the air like a fucking seal
jesus
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
griezmann was hit low and miles from the ball on a leg that hasnt rly moved
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
definite pen
never a free kick. diving wee fuck
― ||||||||, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
I've got to admit I thought it was a penalty, no-one else I've spoken to agrees though, but it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if it hadn't been given.
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
if either hadnt been given it would be *shrug* alright but thats pre-VARifocation
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
and only shrug because the common knowledge is to discriminate against skilled players/for defenders in reffing decisions
good riddance to that
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
No se merece nada! Griezmann needs some practice in fair play. #cheater #dive #griezmann pic.twitter.com/Rl37TtBhqo— Learn German w/ Anja (@aniadealemania) July 15, 2018
I mean come on
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
ref needs spray-on, quickly disintegrating handcuffs to tie up everybody's hands during free kicks
― Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
egregious dive
― ||||||||, Monday, 16 July 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
if possible, the ball should also be sprayed out of a can
― Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 July 2018 16:57 (five years ago) link
thats a foul!
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link
jesus!
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
obv I knew you would say that
it might have ended up being a foul, but Griezemann initiated the contact. He got the dive wrong, but he got away with it
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
coming around to the fact it may have been a pen but it was a clear dive by griezmann imo
― . (Michael B), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
pen, dive
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
,deflection
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link
talking point: pens should not count towards personal goal counts y/n
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:30 (five years ago) link
if it's Harry Kane, yeah
otherwise not too bothered
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link
^^^^
― Alan Alba (Tom D.), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link
pen = 0.5 goals
― nashwan, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link
not saying its not a dive
its a clear dive
its also a clear foul
this isnt intricate stuff lads
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
he's jumped in the air before contact has been made. to quote the rulebook directly "fuck him at that point"
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
the foul never occurred because the dive occurred first. All I can see in that clip is a legitimate attempt to get the ball, which may or may not have resulted in a foul
we have no way of knowing what happened in this alternate timeline where Griezmann didn't dive
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
how bout the timeline where you arent allowed clatter Baryshnikov himself if he fuckin glides past you swanlike ie this actual reality
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
isn't Baryshnikov's main skill staying on his feet
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link
sure but where was the marking
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
anyway, I've never denied something can be a foul and a dive. Happens all the time
but I think if you execute the dive in too obvious a manner you should be punished for it
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
i could shake yr hand on that lets draw a line ten yards away from under it
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
obv best outcome in that scenario is foul against tackle and yellow card for dive but PLANK FIFA will not ACCEDE to my VISION
― dele alli my bookmarks (darraghmac), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
ok but it's an indirect free
even if it's in the box
― Number None, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:01 (five years ago) link
Just dropping in from a busy day to say Darragh is wrong about everything.
Also Croatia may not have stretched themselves as much early in the 2nd half were they not chasing the game. VAR wot won it.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link
you can complain about diving and refuse to dive. you can also complain about rewards credit cards, refuse to get one, and pay a small portion of the worst humans' vacation flights.
― Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
the world cup is over
― gbx, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link
but we have yet to read all the world cup emails on wikileaks
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
"VAR won it" is nonsense.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
I know.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link
But it did have an effect, it's mostly been used well but it came up short in the biggest match. Humans.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link
i think the Pen was correct
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
Cool.
The small nation almost always gets robbed (Uruguay got their wcs in time). I know there are a lot of fascists in Croatia but still..
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:30 (five years ago) link