i got the impression he was a professor or academic of some kind but now i can't remember why
He was a psychologist, which you can see from his email address. I took it he was just unwilling to refer his wife for help without showing his colleagues the breakdown of his marriage. him looking at a distance, I thought was his understanding but total lack of perspective.
Another resonance when Charlie says that grandma wished she would have been a boy, because imagine the disappointment when you know your favorite grandchild is basically useless WRT being the host of Pazuzu Paiman.
the breastfeeding diorama, I have no answer for....
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 16 July 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link
i feel mixed on this one. I think I need to watch it again as there is a lot being communicated throughout that builds towards the conclusion that might have gone over my head.
Fantastic tension - I was genuinely gripped, peeking through my fingers, hugging my hoodie in anticipation, but there was very little release and most moments of pay-off felt over the top to the point of being unintentionally risible. We'd be holding our breaths one minute, then bursting out laughing the next. The last 20 minutes was like they were trying to crowbar-in as many scary special fx as possible. Great acting from Collette and Millly Shapiro, but Peter, the teenage son really took me out of it. He looked way too old for a start and I just couldn't deal with his acting. I wasn't sure how much stuff was properly related to the Paimon plot and how much was just 'scary bollocks' thrown in to creep you out. Was Annie in on the whole thing from the start? Why did she know to keep Peter away from her mother/try to cause a miscarriage?What WERE the words on the wall?I didn't like the explanatory voiceover at the end. I feel like they could have given just a smidge more airtime to the Paimon cult throughout the film rather than just explain it to me in stupid person language at the end. Felt very 'Donnie Darko Director's Cut'.Maybe this will work better on second viewing - I was more concerned about being made to jump (which I'm glad it didn't) to properly analyse the whole thing.
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 16 July 2018 14:02 (five years ago) link
fwiw the person I saw it with liked it more after a second viewing
― Simon H., Monday, 16 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
i feel like i've seen Shapiro in something else recently but Wiki says it's her film debut... not sure where I got that from.
― Gâteau Superstar (dog latin), Monday, 16 July 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
you got it from wiki iirc
― kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Monday, 16 July 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
hail paimon, folks
fuck i loved this
― my dream is to never be a champion (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 2 September 2018 08:06 (five years ago) link
last 15 mins were a trip
― ||||||||, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
Just saw this, and kinda glad I watched it at home during the day tbh! Intensely unsettling. I should have paid more attention, because I missed a few cues such as the relevance of Annie's ramble at the group therapy, and the mother's funeral (the cult people were apparently all the attendees she "didnt recognise")
Am left with a few questions: did Annie know all along what her mother was? The attic boxes scene indicates not, but then again she fought against her mother re Peter (trying to abort him when pregnant, keeping him from her mother etc). I think I need to watch it again!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 23 September 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link
she didn't know for sure - she just had a tortured relationship with her mother, as did her brother who committed suicide as a teen who was clearly the first attempt at a vessel. the whole movie builds to this conception that yes, mom IS really evil
― Nhex, Monday, 24 September 2018 01:11 (five years ago) link
I cant decide wether the ending is awesome, or a little too obvious, but I like that one could read it either way (ie the ending could still be metaphorical/hallucinatory). It also touches on all that satanic panic stuff of the 80s.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 24 September 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link
kinda interesting to watch a movie build and build for 90 minutes then spend the last 30 not sticking the landing at all. operative word there is “kinda”
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
i *wish* the last 15 minutes were a trip, it all felt so restricted and inevitable and linear
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link
it is weird to feel bored when a main character is sawing their own head off that’s for sure
The near-constant use of crane shots was nice
― nevertheless, he stopped (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, June 26, 2018 9:12 AM (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm though
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 December 2018 22:55 (five years ago) link
brad did you watch this at home? I think the theater experience was p key for me on this one, esp w/r/t Stetson's score
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
crane shots were u&k in drawing subtle links between annie’s POV of her dioramas and paimon’s POV of the family, a line which is blurred in the very first shot of the movie
― H00kup with Jaundice Singles!! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
between this movie and Mandy, the combination of horror + score did have some sort of banner year in 2018virtually everything else sucked, but we had this!
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link
v otm, two of my favourites of this year for sure
― H00kup with Jaundice Singles!! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
hereditary >>>>>> mandy though
― flopson, Monday, 31 December 2018 02:37 (five years ago) link
what a terrible opinion
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:16 (five years ago) link
anyway yes the score was v good, and i did watch this at home
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:17 (five years ago) link
i really hated mandy, the score was cool though
― flopson, Monday, 31 December 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
that's cool it's not for everyone flops
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:18 (five years ago) link
yeah i don’t think you all are bad for liking it or anything; i latch onto characters and dialogue and plot, and it had essentially none of them. also saw it the week after a breakup which prob coloured the xp, whereas i saw hereditary whilst falling in love
― flopson, Monday, 31 December 2018 04:24 (five years ago) link
as someone who liked both movies v much I think hereditary >> mandy is a defensible opinion
more than anything though I cannot recall a first feature in recent memory from a total unknown that made this much of an impact and I'm v curious to see what he does next
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:44 (five years ago) link
Maybe dont watch his vimeo short as it is even more disturbing than hereditary
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:49 (five years ago) link
Toni collette deserves an oscar nomination btw
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:50 (five years ago) link
She'll get one, I think.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 04:51 (five years ago) link
peter's crying in this movie is kind of amazing, I didn't think there was a way to cry in a movie that I haven't heard before and that I would find startling and upsetting, the way it is when you actually encounter a person crying in real life
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 31 December 2018 05:30 (five years ago) link
Alex Wolff's performance/screen presence was so unusual that I was surprised to discover he has a ton of credits already
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 05:50 (five years ago) link
btw Aster's followup is out in August so we can expect a trailer soon
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 06:16 (five years ago) link
another vote for hereditary >>>>>> mandy
I thought Mandy had some cheap nudge nudge wink wink elements, but hereditary was unique and inspired.
― Darin, Monday, 31 December 2018 06:27 (five years ago) link
i would like to clarify that i didn't hate this, it just didn't go far enough for me. i wish it felt open-ended but it feels extremely closed off. this is a fine and ok thing for a movie to be but it frustrated the hell out of me. i will also say that endings adversely affect the way i think of the rest of a film. also in my initial post i did not clarify that i think the first 90 minutes of this are p terrific
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:13 (five years ago) link
mandy is a v unique and powerfully emotional movie for me so it's hard for me to not rise to its defense on every occasion lol
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:15 (five years ago) link
otherwise beyond visuals/score effectiveness i don't see much reason to think of both movies at the same time
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 31 December 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link
there isn't -- i just put it out there because i really super enjoyed both of the movies, both of the scores, and two big symbiotic audiovisual experiences like that don't usually happen in one year, at least not for me. i really liked both of them. hereditary will stay with me more for the movie, mandy more for the score. we don't have to keep talking about mandy itt.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 31 December 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
well this was traumatizing
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:39 (five years ago) link
also lol what universe are you guys living in where horror movies win Oscars
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:41 (five years ago) link
Last year?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:45 (five years ago) link
I thought Shape of Water was a rom com
I guess they did give one to Jordan Peele so ya got me there
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:47 (five years ago) link
Collette will def be nominated
― resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 14 January 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link
She was nominated for Sixth Sense, too, iirc her only previous Oscar nomination. I guess she should do horror more often?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 January 2019 16:58 (five years ago) link
Natalie Portman won Best Actress for Black Swan
― Number None, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link
damn toni went sicko mode
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 June 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link
tee hee
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Friday, 28 June 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link
shoulda really got an oscar nod here
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link
yeah she's phenomenal in this
― big beautiful wario (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
http://wtfbabe.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/hereditary-55-gif-blue-light-special-wtf-watch-the-film-saint-pauly1.gif
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 June 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
yea wtfEarly summer release + horror = long way to go for a nomStill tho
― flappy bird, Friday, 28 June 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link
Wow, I managed to go this whole time without getting any spoilers about this movie (nothing beyond someone making a joke sometime back about a decapitation), so went in more or less blind. And boy, did I not expect it to go full batshit! From Rosemary's Baby to The Witch, I love movies where there is no twist and what you think is happening is what's happening. This one, though, for most of it I watched it as a kind of cross between The Sixth Sense and Manchester by the Sea, but then towards the end, when it goes nuts ... hats off, crazy filmmakers.
Toni Collette was great in this. Everyone the boy, maybe, who seemed a little too ... old?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 July 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link