omg plot twist
― look, you’re just gonna get gravy on the baby sometimes 🤷♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
I'll never tell
― Simon H., Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
Lookee that, TeenVogue talked to Ash Sharkar, and actually gave her enough space to describe leftist politics:
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/ash-sarkar-communist-called-piers-morgan-idiot
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 July 2018 17:57 (five years ago) link
love that they included a direct PDF link to Marx's Fragment on the Machine
― Simon H., Monday, 16 July 2018 18:13 (five years ago) link
I’m glad you’ve posted this because I semi related want to say how angry I was at the number of British journalists uncritically rting this shit take:
Communism and Nazism are roughly as bad as each other, but communism gets treated as if it's a fun little eccentricity or youthful exuberance.— Sam Bowman (@s8mb) July 16, 2018
following a week when:- Trump gave an interview to the Sun and walked it back- Steve bannon appeared on gmb (fawned over by Piers Morgan) and LBC (with Farage)- Bannon then threatened the producer of the LBC show for giving him pushback- Piers Morgan gave another fawning interview to Trump on his way out of the country
But sure, communism is the real threat here. Must be nice not having to worry about being on the sharp end.
― gyac, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
Left out:
- Trump refused to take a q from Cnn and the press pack let that happen
― gyac, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dATxKSqKxGCa8KpEA ILx what hast thou wrought?
― Stevie T, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
Referring to this clown self identifying as a 'poptimist' obv https://twitter.com/s8mb
― Stevie T, Monday, 16 July 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/17/magazine/america-can-never-sort-out-whether-socialism-is-marginal-or-rising.html
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
AOC is getting a shit-ton of press
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democratic-socialists-stage-a-summertime-comeback/2018/07/24/a28ae0da-8c1e-11e8-a345-a1bf7847b375_story.html
https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/07/just-stop-worrying-and-embrace-the-left
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 26 July 2018 07:19 (five years ago) link
admittedly I was wrong about this being a new york-centric thing, I underestimated the right's ability to create new hillary clinton/nancy pelosi-esque villains of any woman in politics
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 26 July 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link
It’s wild this shit made it on NPR:
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/26/630960719/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-democratic-socialists-of-america
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link
The BSA met with AOC for a little brush-up coaching
Electoral politics alone isn’t enough.No politicians are accurately describing Socialism.@Ocasio2018 wanted to meet in person & let us explain why. We appreciate this at a time when many Leftist figures won’t even get on a call with us.Our statement: https://t.co/RYkZiwscq8 pic.twitter.com/EygpHyNL8m— Black Socialists of America (@BlackSocialists) July 26, 2018
Oh, and in case y’all were wondering...She’s 100% ‘bout that human liberation life (confirmed).#ComradeAlex 💯 pic.twitter.com/VCEvJhEp6g— Black Socialists of America (@BlackSocialists) July 26, 2018
Here’s their statement: https://blacksocialists.us/home/bsa-meets-aoc
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link
i don't think it's "wild" that NPR are reporting on DSA at this late date but that is a decent piece. it's clear about some of their goals, it allows an adherent to articulate their moral vision, and it offers a specific example about why people are more receptive to this vision after being disappointed by 2016.
― sciatica, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
hey, that BSA stuff is very wholesome and cool
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link
she's got teeth that will run the world someday
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
so uh who is the dead ringer for Malcolm X there
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link
haha he says in the thread those glasses are "the same model and vintage from the same era"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link
yknow may as well
― devops mom (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link
the BSA "opening statement" is essential, relatively brief reading for anyone who wants to get the left's apprehensiveness w/r/t/ "democratic socialism" and electoralism more broadly imho
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
er *"social democratic" I should have typed there
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 04:29 (five years ago) link
Leftist film youtuber Lindsey Ellis posted this(w/ the help of Natalie from ContraPoints)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFMiuAtbMO0
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 27 July 2018 06:19 (five years ago) link
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, July 27, 2018 4:21 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i like it but i don't really dig how it carries that sort of condescendingly written style of idk post-Fanon (??) stuff
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I know what you mean, but I think it's a strong summary of the concerns and a good reference for new entrants who are confused by skepticism towards electoralism
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link
I'm not confused offhand but I don't really care to find out what people think the middle ground is between getting out the vote and arming the populace. Since nobody seems to be arming the populace.
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link
I mean I can understand why an org might not care to focus on getting out the vote and do any number of other pressure moves but deriding "electoralism" as ineffective in bringing about change without proposing armed struggle doesn't do a lot for me.
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
Since nobody seems to be arming the populace
not quite true
https://socialistra.org/
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 16:54 (five years ago) link
the DSA-electoral leverage question re Cynthia Nixon
https://splinternews.com/the-democratic-socialists-of-america-s-cynthia-nixon-di-1827894468
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 July 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link
pro-armed struggle tankies in the u.s. are deranged.
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link
remember how well being armed worked as protection for the black panthers who were facing a much less militarized police force?
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
not even the jokers in the PLP who're actively organizing inside the armed forces think they're gonna beat history's greatest superpower through open armed insurrection tomorrow, though. if there's a benefit to organizing in the armed forces it's one that works just as well for strategic nonviolent conflict, namely that you're moving the enactors of institutional power to your side within the institution itself, building quietly towards a time when the right political crisis will allow for a cleave of leading elements away from the will of the institution. if you ask me, though, that's not what PLP types have in mind.
the memey joke answer to your post, jim, is a smiling picture of ho chi minh & a link to that bonkers pastebin about launching protracted people's warfare from the everglades
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
being armed seemed to work out pretty well for the Malheur occupation, wonder why
― sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
bonkers pastebin about launching protracted people's warfare from the everglades
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, July 27, 2018 12:30 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
beg your pardon?
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
retweets are not endorsements ok https://pastebin.com/FBRF3VhG
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
The struggle could begin with…establishing permanent camps in the swampiest, most isolated parts of the Everglades—areas seldom penetrated by tourists. This would not be difficult.
visionary
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
truly a "how many levels of communism are you on" document
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
Train the gators to be foot soldiers of the revolution
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
that is amazing
― sleeve, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
and like, the running bit on left twitter is investigating whether it's an extended joke or if there are actually like 3 dudes swimming through north florida right now with red hats on
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link
in other news, this strikes me as a fair piece even if the people representing the no-endorse view are some of my least favorite online types
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link
Well, the Communist League of Tampa is a thing...
https://communistleaguetampa.org
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 27 July 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
Always nice to learn there are levels of online I'm not on
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link
love too be in a popular front movement
https://i.imgur.com/yMgyu2K.png
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
i got invited to a friend's bbq on may day and thats when i learned they were down with PLP and im like GIRL nah (the copies of the challenge should've been my first clue)
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Friday, 27 July 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link
yo did i ever tell you about the time a PLP "cell" in San Antonio (this is actually what they called themselves) invited me to join their underground cadre and i left because i was so weirded out
my pals invited me to a party and then not long after i got there like the music stopped and everyone turned to face me and my bud was like "well we should probably tell you, we invited you to a party, but really, we wanted to invite you to join the party" and i was like uhhh i'll think about it
ultimately i broke with them because i was weirded out but also my friend was like "the black panthers were racist" and i was like gtfo im an anarchist now
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
Wow A+
― devops mom (silby), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link
this is when i was barely 19 years old!! what a life
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 27 July 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link
this should really go in the conservative opinions thread but the fact that a lot of young people are getting into leftist politics is great, but the amount of them - on the internet at least - who are getting into anti-revisionistt, marxist-leninism is a real downer
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
Way overrepresented online, imo
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 27 July 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, July 27, 2018 6:24 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is there more than one PLP group in SA bc im pretty sure this is the same group.
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 28 July 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link