A Thread about the film JFK

I know that this is for ILX what Sweet Smell of Success is for me--the most quotable movie ever--but after once putting it on a decade-end Top 10, it gets worse and worse every time I go back to it. (Most recently prompted by a reading of Bill Minutaglio and Steven L. Davis's Dallas 1963). The biggest problem, as I mentioned somewhere above, is Costner (not just him, but what he has to say)--he's like this wide-eyed simpleton, and you want him throttle him every time he opens his mouth. But this time, with the book as a backdrop, I started to think that Stone doesn't even capture half of the craziness that that had been building since Kennedy's election--I found the H.L. Hunt and General Walker and Ted Dealy of the book much more compelling than what Stone conjures up. In fairness, I guess, the movie's set in New Orleans, not Dallas.

Reading this piece by Seymour Hersh in Mr."X" voice. Try it sometime!

well you're the policeman; you work it out

may I go

you really have me consorting with a sordid cast of characters, don't you!

Son of a bitch there he goes again he's got his hands on the chicken switch

Twenty-six years before Ladybird, Laurie Metcalf already deserved an Oscar for her Antoine's monologue.

^^^ as much a hinge as the x scene

really psychedelic

I asked for the CIA files on Oswald that were part of the Warren Report. About 1,200 documents. Can't get one of them. All classified as secret on the grounds of national security. Gave me his grammar school records. It's a study of his pubic hairs.

hay-ahs

"Jim, where are you going? It's me, Samuel."

well, i wanted to make sure that she was the same girl i sent away!

we don't need no gates out there with that swamp! plenty of em gone in there; ain't none of em come out.

I can't believe a man as intelligent as Earl Warren ever read what's in those volumes.

well, uh, in that sense castro is, uh, an experimenter-- marinochka!

now this has to be the most remarkable example of police intuition since the reichstag fire

SHAW: "Never having met Mr. O'Keefe, I couldn't have met Mr. Ferrie."

(Flashback to gold paint-covered Clay Shaw being slapped around by David Ferrie)

FERRIE: "You're mine, Mary."

― omar little, Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:52 PM

underrated imo

always love it when a party ends and finally I can spend hours getting into my 18th century royalty outfit and elaborate makeup and paint a buddy gold and smack him around and watch vintage sports films.

one part i love that i always forget about is Ferrie's nervous explanation of his Nov 22 ice-skating/goose-hunting trip to Houston and Galveston.

But the boys told they didn't get any *Harrison scowls over pipe*

Garrison obv

really? ...which part?

They were a wise bunch of birds!

well you're the policeman; you work it out

Dave, may I ask why the urge to go ice skating in Texas happened to strike you during one of the most violent thunderstorms in recent memory?

Oh.....it was just a spur of the moment thing. The storm wasn't that bad!

I can imagine Stone being as excited about including the fact of the violent thunderstorm as he was about the bit later about the Texas live oak shedding its leaves in March.

I don't believe I ever mentioned this (maybe to dlh in private): watching JFK in high school with me, my buddy gasped when Silvia Odio's name was mentioned. "She's an old friend of my mom's."

You take this Carcano, world's worst shoulder weapon, and try to hit a moving target at 88 yards through heavy foliage.

No way.

did he confirm whether or not she had "bad eyesight"?

(maybe to dlh in private)

ha i think about this conversation a lot actually. "these people have no reason to lie."

and now of course I google her, realize that her last name isn't that common, and she's the sister of Miami's former (indicted) city manager. His youngest son is an acquaintance of mine.

we don't need no gates out there with that swamp! plenty of em gone in there; ain't none of em come out.

― difficult listening hour, Saturday, February 2, 2019 11:08 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my sleeper fave tbh. your consciousness' choices: prison, or an unnavigable swamp

i love that dude's grin after he says it

and wink!

Willie really seems to have found his happy place in that prison tbh

fuck yeah!

and i'd just hate to think! that they blame it on some silly fuckin AHHHS-wald, didn't know shit anyway

Bacon is marvelous (I hope he gave his dialogue coach a bonus). He still mentions JFK as the film that made him a character actor.

there's a subtle shift in the way he presents his character during the flashbacks and the present, kind of a nervous kid in '63 and a hard case a few years later.

def

callowly flexing his ornamental muscles at the other end of the long table

Frankie the butler closing the door on him.

Kevin Bacon playing gay was really exciting to me circa '92.

Even though even back then I knew poppers didn't make you suddenly roar like a lion.

how's your mousse

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You don't know shit 'cause you ain't never bin fucked in da ass!

I love the shots of horse's ass behind O'Keefe and Mistah Garrison