Avengers: Infinity War

2018: bautista is consistently a highlight

Lots of media reporting that there's a 30 minute extended "Thanos Cut" coming but not true apparently

No, ‘Avengers: Infinity War’ Is Not Getting A Thanos Cut https://t.co/vvaQUs9b7H pic.twitter.com/n0SXzlG8FO

— Heroic Hollywood (@heroichollywood) July 3, 2018

surely a thanos cut would be 50% shorter

Marvel has never released extended cuts have they?

they usually don't even have that many outtakes on their home releases

lmao this is great: https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-subreddit-dedicated-to-thanos-is-preparing-to-ban-hal-1827346665

I finally watched this. It kind of came off as a big-budget freshman trolley-problem essay? Everybody gets a chance to either kill someone personally or else half the universe will die, and they all choose the latter while the audience facepalms.

Wanda has to choose between saving half the universe or saving her robot bf. Then Quill has to choose between saving half the universe or saving Gamora. Then Gamora has to choose between saving half the universe or saving her robot sister. Then Cumberbatch has to choose between saving half the universe or saving Tony. Did I forget one. Maybe it's better if you've read the books first.

I mean Dr strange knows the outcome but otherwise good points

With Quill it’s more avenging? Which he doesn’t anyway.

- Wanda knows Thanos can't kill half the people in the universe until he gets the Stone from Vision's head. So it makes sense that, while Thanos isn't there yet, she would absolutely everything to try destroy the Stone without killing Vision while there's still time. Then, when they run out of time, she does kill Vision and destroy the Stone. Which would've worked without Thanos's "turn back time" trick, which she couldn't have known about.

- As I mentioned upthread, there are some hints that Gamora revealing the location of the Soul Stone was a part of bigger plan by her to defeat Thanos; either she provided him with a credible forgery, or her soul was transported inside the Stone, where she can control it. The sequel will show whether this theory is true.

- As Darraghmac points out, Strange looked at all the parallel timelines and saw one where they defeated Thanos, and apparently the only the chance to do that was to let Thanos get the Stones and kill everyone, Strange included. So he didn't need to make the choice at all, just let everything roll.

- With Quill, there's really no excuse. But I guess it's in line how the GotG movies depict him as a bit boneheaded and easily angered.

Really, the stupidest choice in the movie is when Thor gets the big ol' Thanos-killing axe, surprise attacks him, and doesn't hit him in the head. If he'd just thought, "how can I make sure he dies before he can use the Stones", th e good guys would've won fair and square.

People seem to miss the fact this *is* the one plan that works, per Dr. Strange’s comments. It sounds like resignation in the face of failure when he says “there was no other way” at the end, but I am assuming it means the only way they win in the long term is to let Thanos win temporarily.

Quill getting angry and foiling their attempt to grab the gauntlet was always going to happen

when Thor gets the big ol' Thanos-killing axe

my memory of this is a bit fuzzy, but is it ever explained why thor needs a new weapon, since his whole arc in ragnarok led to the realisation that his power was in him rather than in mjolnir

Bc the British lady crushed it

Something about Mjolnir serving as a focus for the power within him. Or just like, you know how awesome you feel while wielding a giant hammer or axe? Feeling awesome can help you win at all kinds of things in life. Or so I'm given to understand.

Bc the British lady crushed it

FP'd you for racism

Something about Mjolnir serving as a focus for the power within him

but he unleashes a giant, plot-hinging lightning storm at the end of ragnarok without mjolnir and it is metal as fuck!

agreed that wielding a giant edged weapon makes you feel awesome, but on the other hand it is the reason that i find it hard to hold down a permanent job because apparently double-headed axes are 'inappropriate for the office environment'

Bc the British lady crushed it

she's asgardian u ignoramus

(Plus also Australian irl, as I was recently shocked to learn?)

little-known fact: australians can be elegant sometimes

Thor, not taking the obvious headshot, doing the thing that villains usually do at the end of movies. MAKES YA THINK

what, dying?

can't believe the chick out of Paradise Road and Oscar & Lucinda and Thank God He Met Lizzie and Little Fish who is also head of the Sydney Theatre Company turned out to be Australian

you all remember Thank God He Met Lizzie, right

Can't believe I wasn't able to infer the obvious conclusion from all of those things I didn't know until thirty seconds ago. Puttin' on muh dunce cap!

I think the explanation is simply that Thanos is so tough, that Thor's innate power alone can't kill him, he needs a magical weapon to enhance it. True, his lightnings did do some mighty damage to Hela, but Infinity War begins with Thor having already lost to Thanos, so presumably he tried the lightning and it wasn't enough.

yeah, i s'pose that's fair enough - just seems a bit clunky storytelling-wise to have him lose his power, regain it in spectacular fashion, and then immediately have to go back to relying on weapons again

altho i guess infinity war was being written before or parallel to ragnarok so there's probably just a dull procedural reason behind it more than anything else

you could have just inferred it from her being Australian tbf

Not all of us have immediate and unfettered access to all of the knowledge in the universe, my friend.

sic does have custody of all six infinity stones tbf

I assumed as much.

It's a real struggle finding underpants that fit.

No one made you paste them on and around your no-no zone.

Blanchett usually plays English characters or does an English accent, no? So it's not unreasonable to assume she's from England. Has she ever done an Australian accent in her Hollywood roles?

I think Hot Fuzz is the only thing I've seen her in where she plays an English character

Anecdotally it seems that all the major Australian actors rarely get to act in their native accent. Blanchett, Kidman, Jackman, Crowe (well, New Zealand), Gibson, Geoffrey Rush, Guy Pearce, Hugo Weaving, Toni Collette, Naomi Watts, Margot Robbie, even Eric Bana or Joel Edgerton. Maybe has something to do with the Aussie accent being so specific? Or more likely that British accents have long been used as Hollywood shorthand for intelligent, or evil bad guy.

An exception that I just remembered are a couple of Apatow or Apatow-esque movies, one where Bana gets to play an Australian, and in that Seth Rogan movie where he is married to Rose Byrne, and she uses her native accent there, too iirc.

Mel Gibson is American.

Suggesting that Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce and Joel Edgerton and Geoffrey Rush never get to act with Australian accents is completely bonkers.


Maybe has something to do with the Aussie accent being so specific?

It's true, everyone from Cape Cod sounds exactly the same as everyone from Houston.

blanchett's innate poise makes her appear upper-class english no matter what accent she's using

she's like the human equivalent of a cut-glass accent

you'd think making sic IA & fussy would be hilarious but it never is

It's true, everyone from Cape Cod sounds exactly the same as everyone from Houston.

No, they sound "American."

Suggesting that Hugo Weaving and Guy Pearce and Joel Edgerton and Geoffrey Rush never get to act with Australian accents is completely bonkers.

Sorry, I was talking about mainstream Hollywood movies. Obviously all of the above Aussie's have acted plenty with their native accents.

Aussies.

you'd think making sic IA & fussy would be hilarious but it never is

― El Tomboto, Friday, August 3, 2018 9:33 AM (four minutes ago)

No, they sound "American."

But the accent is "so specific"

there are some hints that Gamora revealing the location of the Soul Stone was a part of bigger plan by her to defeat Thanos; either she provided him with a credible forgery, or her soul was transported inside the Stone, where she can control it. The sequel will show whether this theory is true.

I thought Gamora thought she had Thanos cornered because "he didn't love anything" so therefore he couldn't sacrifice what he loved to get the stone. but unfortunately, there was one person that he loved who happened to be right there. idk if she really had a plan beyond wanting to save her friends.

We'll have to see if Blanchett gets a chance to play Hela in a second appearance

It'd give her a second chance to reprise a character with a British-style accent, like that time she played Queen Elizabeth and it was popular enough to spawn a sequel

voodoo chili otm, not sure what is up with this forgery take

I don't know enough about Australian accents to know how much or if they vary from place to place within the country. I'm sure when actors are doing a generic American accent they often must have some accent in mind, even if it's not recognizably regional like New England or Southern. I assume it's just a general flat accent a la many newscasters.

My favorite example of Aussies losing their accents is in that awesome twisty thriller "Triangle." The filmmakers are Australian, the entire cast is Australian, it's filmed in Australia, it's mostly set on a boat in the middle of the ocean and when it's not it's set in an unspecified (iirc) seaside town. And yet everyone acts with an American accent.

The director of Triangle is British.