Young Kirk n Spock + Lost = new Star Trek movie

leave the camera in one spot for a second, jesus, it's just a conversation

The theaters I saw (Leicester Square) were... 12 pounds? Which is like 19 bucks.

― Unclench, y'all, unclench (HI DERE), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:10 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hang on, are they the fancy ones where you can buy wine and beer and have proper dinner and stuff?

― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:11 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the funny thing is that no! they are not! and not all of them are even that big, screen-wise. and although the venues were originally done out all fancy, they now look just like any other cinema on the inside.

They are slap bang in the middle of gullible tourist central. Why the fuck tourists would come all this way just to go to the cinema, though, I dunno.

they sort of made sense when you had exclusive releases, and when the venues were genuinely plusher, so you were paying for something you couldn't get elsewhere. im not sure when that ended: very rare to get even a 'london first' release these days, other than on tiny films where they only have a few prints.

Why the fuck tourists would come all this way just to go to the cinema, though, I dunno.

Rain.

Why the fuck tourists would come all this way just to go to the cinema, though, I dunno.

This, of course, is truth.

"Instead of trying to determine which particular anthology you read is supposed to represent all SF..."
If these things I've read and enjoyed that purport to be surveys of contemporary, excellent SF are in fact frauds, I'd like to be let in on it. Like Spock says, "it is impossible to argue without a common frame of reference."
I remember reading this (and others of the series) around the same time as watching TNG: http://www.bestsf.net/reviews/dozois9.html
BTW, I still think this is great, but by no means am I going to suggest it offers profound, graduate-level insights on humanity, but I would very much like to read an SF anthology that does.

"If you are truly of the opinion that the series represents all that SF has to offer, then I think that is a shame and I probably won't be able to dissuade you with a crude list of recommendations."
I'm not, but you're wrong: crude list is definitely appreciated. I'd been trying for many years to push various non-ST SF books on ST-reading friends, many of which are surely more fun and inventive and often less ham-fisted, but one thing I can't claim is, for example, that "Gun, with Occasional Music" is somehow intellectually more advanced or thought-provoking than the "odd philosophical question at the level of a 12 year old"

"I have to say, seeing ticket prices in London make me not so mad about $10 tickets in Boston."
Can you guys give ticket prices adjusted against the local price of a decent Chicken Tikka Masala? Round where I am, it's roughly 1:1.

I'm a vegetarian

btw

sub in saag paneer + mango lassi for chicken tikka?

oh man I would love a sag paneer right now

Does Ellison's distinction of "SciFi" vs "SF" need to come into play here?

for example: http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2008/11/science-fiction-vs-scifi/

"odd philosophical question at the level of a 12 year old"

How about literary SF that creates an entire medievalish world at the level of a smart, stupendously boring 12-year-old (Frank Herbert)?

Just want to shout out here that I also prefer to be one of 3-5 people in an empty, silent theater. You can get that by waiting a week or two after a movie has launched, and by catching one of those 11am shows on a Saturday or Sunday. You don't have to take off from work to be strategic.

but taking off from work is usually better.

because you get to take off from work.

I went to a weekday showing early in the day and it was packed, because everyone is unemployed. in fact, I ran into two people I used to work with who are also unemployed in the lobby.

Did you go to Starbucks afterwards and start an LLC? That's what unemployed Trekkies ought to do after a movie.

http://michaelhaulica.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/startrek-gorn.jpg
Oh baby, I'm Gorn too loose

i finally saw this and it was fine

Kirk running around with swollen hands was an unexpected infusion of Mack Sennett. Entire film should'v ebeen done in that style, with Nero defeated by a bottomless bucket of tar.

have you seen drag me to hell morbs? i think you should. it's even got an anvil gag!

http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/the_underdetermined_death_of_uhura/#comments

sums up my thoughts on this dreadful film

"this movie is actively hostile to the very idea of multiculturalism, the existence of women, and the narrative of progressive inclusion which the franchise has, up until now, articulated."

lol, whatever. The point when you can stop reading is when the guy (and it is always a guy) starts referencing Giant Vagina Dentata time-warps and invoking Lacan.

"I maintain that the James Bond reboot, which I posted about here, is a impressively thoughtful effort to grapple with the series’ entrenched misogyny."

Kind of ironic as I thought the new Bond films are about as offensively misogynistic as the franchise gets, but *shrug*.

as some writer pointed out, in contradiction to its self-advertised liberalism, the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best, and this movie is no different.

I’m not sure what to make of the fact that Tasha Yar, the original security officer, was female, though her swift elimination from the cast (like that of the original female Number One from the original series’ pilot) would seem to indicate less comfort with the idea than the daring move of putting her there in the first place would suggest.

or it could be that the actress left the series to pursue other opportunities.

i mean i liked college too but come the fuck on.

Yeah I'm pretty sure she just didn't want to be typecast. Worked out well...

http://www.thevalve.org/go/valve/article/the_underdetermined_death_of_uhura/#comments

sums up my thoughts on this dreadful film

― chip dumstorf, Thursday, June 4, 2009 10:53 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

your thoughts suck

it is a really major Dead Women blockbuster

man, I was curious about whatever happened to the actress that played tasha yar and looked her up on memory alpha a few months ago. then I saw that she was acting in fan made internet star trek episodes and it really bummed me out. :-/

the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best

except when Vulcans know best

"she was acting in fan made internet star trek episodes and it really bummed me out."
huh? why you say this like this is demeaning thing?

"as some writer pointed out, in contradiction to its self-advertised liberalism, the consistent message of Star Trek has always been Humans Know Best, "
There are many smackdowns of professed human superiority on ST. I'd agree that ST was a pretty fervent champion of Liberals Know Best, at least until those warmongering DS9 and Enterprise series.

my god, look at the first post. It took them 3 years to make... THAT.

except when Vulcans know best

well Nimoy takes care of this in "Do what feels right" speech here.

I was referring to Sarek but whatevs

huh? why you say this like this is demeaning thing?

uh, not to badmouth star trek: the new voyages... but I was hoping she was getting better work these days. you have to admit that fan series are pretty low on the trek totem pole.

http://www.denofgeek.com/siteimage/scale/800/600/18878.png

I mean, I've never actually seen this. but I don't particularly want to either.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/stexpanded/images/9/95/STNV_MainCast_low_res.jpg

" but I was hoping she was getting better work these days. you have to admit that fan series are pretty low on the trek totem pole."
my understanding is that ST cast members do this as a kind of 'thank you' to the fans sort of thing. Denise Crosby especially might feel
a sort of payback was in order because of the Trekkie documentaries she made.

Or perhaps she thought "oh shit, the cable bill is here"

some really unfortunate make-up/lighting going on there

Or perhaps she thought "oh shit, the cable bill is here"

this is what I took from it.

;__;

haha.

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/images/Citrix/GoToMyPC.jpg

via http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3920/kraftspock.jpg

tell me you guys weren't thinking this

well played, sir.

She will appear in an upcoming two-part episode of the Internet fan-based series Star Trek: New Voyages called "Blood and Fire", playing Dr. Jenna Yar, Tasha Yar's grandmother.

I am thinking Denise is really regretting splurging on the iPhone right about now.

http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/images/Trailers/BaF2_380x214.jpg

"for some reason, I just didn't think about how the monthly payments would catch up to me."

(btw current pics of Denise are really driving home to me exactly how old I am, sheesh)

She looks exactly like the library director at another one of our campuses.

I went to my first and only ST convention in spring 1988, right as she got capped.

I remember they were showing all this promo shit for these movies called "Willow" and "Moontrap"