Democratic (Party) Direction

brutal MLK quote, thanks for that

excellent post dlh, you repeatedly earn your rep

hey DLH my memory is that the MLK quote is not from an actual recording of king's voice but from interviews taylor branch did with FBI ppl decades after hoover told them that. i don't have the book handy or i'd check the notes.

if the source is Hoover and not actual tapes um yeah that's highly suspect to say the least

tbh it does sound more like something hoover would've made up to infuriate RFK than a plausible statement MLK would have made to his wife

i think i first encountered this quote years ago in a column by (wait for it) christopher hitchens, who predictably thought it was hilarious and right-on

vols 1 and 3 are where they're supposed to be (history/american/postwar) but vol 2 is not for some reason; think i may have given it away in some kind of fit. i believe you tho. still branch is not elsewhere very credulous of hoover or the fbi, and my memory of the quote is that it's sourced only in endnotes (and not in the text the way you might with something you wanted to be careful with). ultimately tho i just find it believable. he was pretty frustrated and he thought he had privacy.

yeah the Hitchens review is what just came up when I looked for it. Um, among a bunch of other openly racist and right-wing crank sites.

and coretta wasn't just his wife but another pretty frustrated person. xp

otoh maybe namethejew.com is a credible news source lol

xp

Didn't LBJ get elected to congress mostly through dirty oil money, and then flat out stole a senate election ten years later? Not much New Deal about that.

get out

Love to be mad and have a weird conspiracy theory even when the DNC does something I like.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, June 29, 2018 4:43 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when you are definitely, definitely not mad

Sort of suprised that the DNC spam email I received today used AOC as part of their fundraising pitch (among ten candidates). Obviously her general race doesn't need my money. They probably have some data on me as a bernie voter and focused on leftish candidates.

― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, June 29, 2018 4:21 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fwiw I got this email as well and I didn't vote in the primary (because I'm not a registered democrat)

Frederik is actually correct about his election wins. Wrong about his commitment to the New Deal, which was deep and enduring.

xp

I hope no one thinks that precedents LBJ set are necessarily applicable today

I don't understand that anecdote about the sucking off. That MLK was whatever about JFK?

that he thought he was a phony

re lbj i was talking about ideology and personal concept of the function of government, not about taking some special pure path to power. (but i think more of it was dirty contractor money?) lbj's a borderline-psychopathic schemer and liar, beholden to corporations (brown+root) and an obsessive master of transactional politics, and yes he does buy votes in south texas by the fiefdom. but why does such a person, given all the capital he'll ever have, finally spend it on the VRA?what's he a product of? not my time.

People are complex.

I've noticed that, too.

Banality but true. And despite the corruption and false compromises I believe his anecdotes about how the Mexican schoolkids affected him

Well, I consider it a feature rather than a bug of our current climate that if someone like OAC made too many compromises to centrists (either out of being "complex" or simply run-of-the-mill careerism) she could very well find herself out of a job within a cycle or two.

re: Venezuela as boogeyman

Tfw you don't have the Soviet Union as a bogeyman anymore and you gotta really reach pic.twitter.com/QreBkiS2Ia

— Connor Wroe Southard (@ConnorSouthard) June 29, 2018

AOC will start with an edge over most freshmen reps, in that she has become a symbol and an icon. A sizable bloc of voters listen to what she says. That's her power. We'll see how well she can parlay that into having a seat at the table where the real decisions get made.

hoping she gets on some good-ass committees

America's growing socialist left have another word: Scandinavia

in that twitter video posted 40 posts ago or so, is that...atul gawande toward the beginning?

America's growing socialist left have another word: Scandinavia

I don't think this is a winning strategy, for a whole bunch of reasons.

who's talking strategy?

I thought you were?

The right's continuing efforts to find an unflattering picture of OAC are a source of dim amusement in these dark times.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/29/fact-check-girl-from-the-bronx-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-grew-up-in-one-of-richest-u-s-counties/

Obama won almost the entire Midwest because people thought he was MORE progressive than he was https://t.co/JbNwcSqKV9

— Gore Vidal Sassoon (@JimmyJazz1968) June 30, 2018

strategy is maybe overrated in countering tweet zings

I had no idea Ellison was talking up a maximum wage. Fucking dope idea imho

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/30/minimum-wage-maximum-wage-income-inequality?CMP=edit_2221

yeah, at the very least companies with such stark pay disparities should be punished. interesting article

a maximum wage is easily circumvented by capital gains. there would have to be a maximum annual income and a cap on maximum wealth.

a constitutional amendment like that was introduced during the great depression

ah i remember the capital gains tax era

in that twitter video posted 40 posts ago or so, is that...atul gawande toward the beginning?

― k3vin k., Friday, June 29, 2018 8:48 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dinesh D'Souza

lol yeah duh, thanks

I don't think he was suggesting that mcewee invented the ideas

― k3vin k., Friday, June 29, 2018 5:27 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no, but mcelwee sure is taking a lot of twitter victory laps lately that are annoying the immigrant rights movement

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, June 29, 2018 1:41 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Honestly, I’m fine with not being cited. I’ll live. But is United We Dream Action? Where is Make the Road Action? Detention Watch Network? Where is Deb Haaland? Ing? Sedillo-Lopez? I’m not seeing mention of the early leaders and groups that made this real.

— we're going to abolish ICE (@SeanMcElwee) June 30, 2018

ya

some of his ‘victory lap’ tweets (fwiw i totally see why irl immigration activists would be annoyed by them) are, dare i say, a little hoosian (c. 2008)

Let's see how the efforts to dig up dirt on OAC are going

https://pagesix.com/2018/07/01/ex-co-worker-no-fan-of-democrat-darling-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/?_ga=2.168933409.1893470514.1530459758-1303444035.1530459758

Stop getting her initials in the wrong order dude

lol fuck

That above story is hilarious in its service industry every day pettiness. Also that's weird that the bar tipped out wait staff?

Also people using Venezuela as a bedtime story need to explain how Venezuela got into that position first.

Make sure to read the first two comments!

This is the Yorktown Heights (very nice area) home @Ocasio2018 grew up in before going off to Ivy League Brown University.

A far cry from the Bronx hood upbringing she’s selling. pic.twitter.com/xyOtZzVJII

— John Cardillo (@johncardillo) July 1, 2018

attacking AOC's character seems like it is not going to be the best play

attacking John Kerry's military service didn't seem smart either